Here is why "gun registration" is a freedom killer...

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
i think anything other than the same old, tired useless straw man by RR and the gang is a good idea..

I don't have a gang. Gangs are people that take from others against their will and extort. Sycophants are the gangs boot lickers and sheep. BTW is that a wool sweater you're wearing?
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
How about some unbiased, real evidence of what you say. how about some consensus between all experts on guns, on sociology and on public policy, unless we can get 100 percent consensus then you have no valid point.
There you go again with consensus. Consensus is not science and this a constitutional issue and if you actually had consensus you could amend the Constitution.

So, you don't have consensus you just claim it.

Therefore is is just more Sagan-ism.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
how many mass murderers used a knife?
You are an idiot on this, my friend. Go to the range get past your fear. Meet me at National, I can bring some gear. More gear, less fear.

States practice mass murder and they don't necessarily waste bullets.

Deliberate massacres of captives or civilians during wartime by the state's military forces, such as these committed by the Empire of Japan, the Soviet Union, and Nazi Germany during the Second Sino-Japanese War and World War II: the Nanjing Massacre, the Katyn Forest Massacre of Polish citizens in 1940 and the massacres of political prisoners after the launch of Operation Barbarossa, the Three Alls Policy, the massacre of Soviet Jews at Babi Yar, the murder of 24 unarmed villagers by British troops in the Batang Kali massacre during the Malayan Emergency, and the murder of Vietnamese civilians by American soldiers in the My Lai Massacre during the Vietnam War.

And let us include State made Disaster....man-made disasters caused by the state, such as the Holodomor in the Soviet Union,[SUP][6][/SUP] and the famines and poverty caused by the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution in the People's Republic of China and North Korea

Vasili Blokhin's war crime killing of 7,000 Polish prisoners of war, shot in 28 days, is notable as one of the most organized and protracted mass murders by a single individual on record.[SUP][14][/SUP]


The biggest mass murder in the USA, by far, was a school bombing.

So, let us go to shootings. Now the thing about shootings, is someone could and certainly would shoot back and save lives.

So, the only reason mass shooting CAN occur is BECAUSE we are unarmed.
This shows in the stats.
For many decades a mass shoots was under 10 people. Then only recently did that begin to climb. And in ever case one well aim shot would
have ended it.

And there have only been 4 big ones since the Texas Tower. So, you can't stop a guy with a deer rifle in a tower. But, these other 4 are an indication
of only one thing, the che-chicken yelllowing of Fear'mercia....Thanks Uncle Buck for promoting cowardice against all facts.
32 killed - April 16, 2007 - Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia.

27 killed - December 14, 2012 - Sandy Hook Elementary School - Newtown, Connecticut.

23 killed - October 16, 1991 - In Killeen, Texas,

21 killed - July 18, 1984 -
In San Ysidro, California,

That is it for mass guns, And Buck, by God, had you been there with my Colt Commander, you could have saved day, for these people.

And know you would not choke, dude, people are being killed in front of you and you are next.

Better draw down with your Kleenex and sneeze I guess.

Early in the morning on March 23, Zheng Minsheng walked in front of an elementary school in Fujian province. Wielding a knife, he attacked the students who happened to be around, killing eight and wounding several others...

If Chinese authorities thought Zheng's execution would deter similar attacks, they were wrong. The day he was executed, a knife-wielding man attacked elementary school students in southern Guangdong province, wounding 16 students and a teacher... The next day, a man in Jiangsu province barged into a kindergarten and stabbed 31 people, including 28 students, two teachers and one security guard. "It was too horrible to imagine," one eyewitness told local reporters. "I saw blood everywhere." Police apprehended the suspect, 47-year-old Xu Yuyuan.

Then, on April 30, a man barged into a village school in Shandong province, carrying a hammer and a can of gasoline. Wang Yonglai, a local farmer, attacked preschool students with the hammer, causing head injuries. He then set himself on fire and died. It was the third such school attack in three days.

This all happened in 2010. Murder by blade. And if you look up in the USA, quiet mas murder by blade continues unabated.

In the USA we have something you don't even know about the Press is so afraid of guns. Knives are more deadly sometimes and certainly more gruesome.

[h=1]Immigrant Mass Murder Syndrome. MSM To Call For Knife Control?[/h]http://www.vdare.com/posts/appalling-brooklyn-familicide-another-case-of-immigrant-mass-murder-syndrome
A 25-year-old suspect — preliminarily identified as the children’s mentally troubled older cousin — was arrested after being subdued at the scene, his feet bare and soaked in blood....Police identified the victims as 1-year-old William Zhuo, a 5-year-old Kevin Zhuo, a 7-year-old Amy Zhuo, 9-year-old Linda Zhuo and 37-year-old Qiao Zhen Li.


So, I finally get to see you actually emarbarssed, or should be. :)
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
i think anything other than the same old, tired useless straw man by RR and the gang is a good idea..
You create a problem and then emotion tamper with society to try to solve it for you.....for power.

Sagaism. There should be a law against it.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
i think anything other than the same old, tired useless straw man by RR and the gang is a good idea..
There is no problem, and we aleady have the best idea, and you are trying tear it down.

We have the 2nd Amendment. You can't change that, so you try to chip away at the edges and sound, oh so reasonable. :) A Farce.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
didn't work so well for gabby giffords, dude was on scene with a gun and CCW.

didn't work for the navy yard shooting either, armed guard got his ass killed.

you are a dumbass.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
You are an idiot on this, my friend. Go to the range get past your fear. Meet me at National, I can bring some gear. More gear, less fear.

States practice mass murder and they don't necessarily waste bullets.

Deliberate massacres of captives or civilians during wartime by the state's military forces, such as these committed by the Empire of Japan, the Soviet Union, and Nazi Germany during the Second Sino-Japanese War and World War II: the Nanjing Massacre, the Katyn Forest Massacre of Polish citizens in 1940 and the massacres of political prisoners after the launch of Operation Barbarossa, the Three Alls Policy, the massacre of Soviet Jews at Babi Yar, the murder of 24 unarmed villagers by British troops in the Batang Kali massacre during the Malayan Emergency, and the murder of Vietnamese civilians by American soldiers in the My Lai Massacre during the Vietnam War.

And let us include State made Disaster....man-made disasters caused by the state, such as the Holodomor in the Soviet Union,[SUP][6][/SUP] and the famines and poverty caused by the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution in the People's Republic of China and North Korea

Vasili Blokhin's war crime killing of 7,000 Polish prisoners of war, shot in 28 days, is notable as one of the most organized and protracted mass murders by a single individual on record.[SUP][14][/SUP]


The biggest mass murder in the USA, by far, was a school bombing.

So, let us go to shootings. Now the thing about shootings, is someone could and certainly would shoot back and save lives.

So, the only reason mass shooting CAN occur is BECAUSE we are unarmed.
This shows in the stats.
For many decades a mass shoots was under 10 people. Then only recently did that begin to climb. And in ever case one well aim shot would
have ended it.

And there have only been 4 big ones since the Texas Tower. So, you can't stop a guy with a deer rifle in a tower. But, these other 4 are an indication
of only one thing, the che-chicken yelllowing of Fear'mercia....Thanks Uncle Buck for promoting cowardice against all facts.
32 killed - April 16, 2007 - Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia.

27 killed - December 14, 2012 - Sandy Hook Elementary School - Newtown, Connecticut.

23 killed - October 16, 1991 - In Killeen, Texas,

21 killed - July 18, 1984 -
In San Ysidro, California,

That is it for mass guns, And Buck, by God, had you been there with my Colt Commander, you could have saved day, for these people.

And know you would not choke, dude, people are being killed in front of you and you are next.

Better draw down with your Kleenex and sneeze I guess.

Early in the morning on March 23, Zheng Minsheng walked in front of an elementary school in Fujian province. Wielding a knife, he attacked the students who happened to be around, killing eight and wounding several others...

If Chinese authorities thought Zheng's execution would deter similar attacks, they were wrong. The day he was executed, a knife-wielding man attacked elementary school students in southern Guangdong province, wounding 16 students and a teacher... The next day, a man in Jiangsu province barged into a kindergarten and stabbed 31 people, including 28 students, two teachers and one security guard. "It was too horrible to imagine," one eyewitness told local reporters. "I saw blood everywhere." Police apprehended the suspect, 47-year-old Xu Yuyuan.

Then, on April 30, a man barged into a village school in Shandong province, carrying a hammer and a can of gasoline. Wang Yonglai, a local farmer, attacked preschool students with the hammer, causing head injuries. He then set himself on fire and died. It was the third such school attack in three days.

This all happened in 2010. Murder by blade. And if you look up in the USA, quiet mas murder by blade continues unabated.

In the USA we have something you don't even know about the Press is so afraid of guns. Knives are more deadly sometimes and certainly more gruesome.

Immigrant Mass Murder Syndrome. MSM To Call For Knife Control?

http://www.vdare.com/posts/appalling-brooklyn-familicide-another-case-of-immigrant-mass-murder-syndrome
A 25-year-old suspect — preliminarily identified as the children’s mentally troubled older cousin — was arrested after being subdued at the scene, his feet bare and soaked in blood....Police identified the victims as 1-year-old William Zhuo, a 5-year-old Kevin Zhuo, a 7-year-old Amy Zhuo, 9-year-old Linda Zhuo and 37-year-old Qiao Zhen Li.


So, I finally get to see you actually emarbarssed, or should be. :)
thanks for pointing out how ineffective knives are as mass murder weapons.

there's a reason why mass murderers use semi automatic guns with high capacity magazines.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
You are an idiot on this, my friend. Go to the range get past your fear. Meet me at National, I can bring some gear. More gear, less fear.

States practice mass murder and they don't necessarily waste bullets.

Deliberate massacres of captives or civilians during wartime by the state's military forces, such as these committed by the Empire of Japan, the Soviet Union, and Nazi Germany during the Second Sino-Japanese War and World War II: the Nanjing Massacre, the Katyn Forest Massacre of Polish citizens in 1940 and the massacres of political prisoners after the launch of Operation Barbarossa, the Three Alls Policy, the massacre of Soviet Jews at Babi Yar, the murder of 24 unarmed villagers by British troops in the Batang Kali massacre during the Malayan Emergency, and the murder of Vietnamese civilians by American soldiers in the My Lai Massacre during the Vietnam War.

And let us include State made Disaster....man-made disasters caused by the state, such as the Holodomor in the Soviet Union,[SUP][6][/SUP] and the famines and poverty caused by the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution in the People's Republic of China and North Korea

Vasili Blokhin's war crime killing of 7,000 Polish prisoners of war, shot in 28 days, is notable as one of the most organized and protracted mass murders by a single individual on record.[SUP][14][/SUP]


The biggest mass murder in the USA, by far, was a school bombing.

So, let us go to shootings. Now the thing about shootings, is someone could and certainly would shoot back and save lives.

So, the only reason mass shooting CAN occur is BECAUSE we are unarmed.
This shows in the stats.
For many decades a mass shoots was under 10 people. Then only recently did that begin to climb. And in ever case one well aim shot would
have ended it.

And there have only been 4 big ones since the Texas Tower. So, you can't stop a guy with a deer rifle in a tower. But, these other 4 are an indication
of only one thing, the che-chicken yelllowing of Fear'mercia....Thanks Uncle Buck for promoting cowardice against all facts.
32 killed - April 16, 2007 - Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia.

27 killed - December 14, 2012 - Sandy Hook Elementary School - Newtown, Connecticut.

23 killed - October 16, 1991 - In Killeen, Texas,

21 killed - July 18, 1984 -
In San Ysidro, California,

That is it for mass guns, And Buck, by God, had you been there with my Colt Commander, you could have saved day, for these people.

And know you would not choke, dude, people are being killed in front of you and you are next.

Better draw down with your Kleenex and sneeze I guess.

Early in the morning on March 23, Zheng Minsheng walked in front of an elementary school in Fujian province. Wielding a knife, he attacked the students who happened to be around, killing eight and wounding several others...

If Chinese authorities thought Zheng's execution would deter similar attacks, they were wrong. The day he was executed, a knife-wielding man attacked elementary school students in southern Guangdong province, wounding 16 students and a teacher... The next day, a man in Jiangsu province barged into a kindergarten and stabbed 31 people, including 28 students, two teachers and one security guard. "It was too horrible to imagine," one eyewitness told local reporters. "I saw blood everywhere." Police apprehended the suspect, 47-year-old Xu Yuyuan.

Then, on April 30, a man barged into a village school in Shandong province, carrying a hammer and a can of gasoline. Wang Yonglai, a local farmer, attacked preschool students with the hammer, causing head injuries. He then set himself on fire and died. It was the third such school attack in three days.

This all happened in 2010. Murder by blade. And if you look up in the USA, quiet mas murder by blade continues unabated.

In the USA we have something you don't even know about the Press is so afraid of guns. Knives are more deadly sometimes and certainly more gruesome.

Immigrant Mass Murder Syndrome. MSM To Call For Knife Control?

http://www.vdare.com/posts/appalling-brooklyn-familicide-another-case-of-immigrant-mass-murder-syndrome
A 25-year-old suspect — preliminarily identified as the children’s mentally troubled older cousin — was arrested after being subdued at the scene, his feet bare and soaked in blood....Police identified the victims as 1-year-old William Zhuo, a 5-year-old Kevin Zhuo, a 7-year-old Amy Zhuo, 9-year-old Linda Zhuo and 37-year-old Qiao Zhen Li.


So, I finally get to see you actually emarbarssed, or should be. :)
thanks for pointing out how ineffective knives are as mass murder weapons.

there's a reason why mass murderers use semi automatic guns with high capacity magazines.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
thanks for pointing out how ineffective knives are as mass murder weapons.

there's a reason why mass murderers use semi automatic guns with high capacity magazines.
You don't even pretend to try to get my point, do you? I just sailed right over your head.

And if you would just run some rounds yourself, maybe you would pay more attention.



So, I am very neutral here and I don't mind reporting Ma J. OK?

This is nothing. And there can be no corrolation with nothing. You cannot say, these weapons, cause this. This happens. And there is a spike of nut case that I cannot contribute to guns.

IAC, what happen in '02 forward? A big drop off. Then what is the rise? Nut case. No correlation. If you don't add these one offs, that the big mags made no difference, then nothing is changed.

What happened in the Batman movie? His big mag jammed, but he had back up. He pulled out the gun that won the West, the 12 gauge shotgun. Try for the details as we go.

For the one offs, Columbine, etc, they were ammo up. Packing big. Mags are not the point. Shotguns are used a lot.

And many times mass killing occurs, someone with a gun could stop it.

So, you have a lot of cuteness no doubt, but it is so hollow.

You want us to think this will save lives and it will not. Anti-gun fear has already cost lives.
 
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