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~Dankster~420

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EVERYTHING is looking M.I.T.H.T.Y fine bro.. I have one little request. Its cool if you dont want to do it.. But see where your loading those HUGE pics, lol its making it hard 4 me to see everything.. It takes 4`ever for them to load & I would really like to follow their/your progress. ;)
Yeah, been there, ending up with too dark leaves at the bottom storing excessive N within days (hydro besides fast vegging also being a fast teacher :)). Also around this point when the flowers start to form I've had the opposite reaction, as in seemingly getting lighter tips thinking I should reduce the nute level (which around that time in my case comes down to relatively more N and less P and K ending up with once again too dark green).
 

Sativied

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Thanks D. The thread is meant as a picture journal and I'm posting large images on purpose (dimension that is, I do try to keep file size small/compressed) but it does add up on a full page of posts doesn't it... I will post some more thumbs instead of the full images. Thanks for the suggestion.
 

~Dankster~420

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Oh I see.. well i just interupted your work.. Sorry bro ;) carry on haha just thought I would let ya know.. Would like to see your work though. :)

I will do what I can to load your BIG ol pics! haha :)
Thanks D. The thread is meant as a picture journal and I'm posting large images on purpose (dimension that is, I do try to keep file size small/compressed) but it does add up on a full page of posts doesn't it... I will post some more thumbs instead of the full images. Thanks for the suggestion.
 

Sativied

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Nice to have some flowers in my closet again:

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P6 (Chunk X CH)P6_12_4.jpg

IH5: (ICE x CH) Notice the dense frost on the calyxes, that's from the ICE. One of the things I'm hoping for with this cross is that the calyxes will be larger than on the ICE and sugar leaves more frosty (ICE had barely frost on leaves). Anyway, so far so good.
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Wilksey

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Excellent!

Very interesting how there seems to be not only tric development, but AMBER tric development on some of those young plants. That was a point of discussion on another thread. Perhaps the amber tric development is simply a genetic trait, as opposed to an environmental one?

Reckon I'll be stalkin' this thread.

Positive waves to you and your grow.
 

Sativied

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Thanks Wilksey. :D

Check out this scanned article from Mel Frank, a Time to Reap:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/bud-porn-take-a-look.655923/page-7#post-9143010 and in particular the last two pages which includes some plausible theories about why the heads turn amber.

But yeah I was surprised too to see color that early. At some point in the future I will take one with me to a lab when I get some buds tested and see if they can make anything of such a small amount.
 

Wilksey

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Thanks Wilksey. :D

Check out this scanned article from Mel Frank, a Time to Reap:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/bud-porn-take-a-look.655923/page-7#post-9143010 and in particular the last two pages which includes some plausible theories about why the heads turn amber.

But yeah I was surprised too to see color that early. At some point in the future I will take one with me to a lab when I get some buds tested and see if they can make anything of such a small amount.
Great article!

I had read about the degradation of THC resin glans, ie clear to amber, however, I don't recall ever reading about an emphasis on harvesting when clear, as opposed to cloudy. Clear is the way to go according to scientific experiment, and that's good enough for me!

Thanks for the link.
 

Sativied

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Clear is the way to go according to scientific experiment, and that's good enough for me!
Yes how can you argue with a professor who studied trichs for 3 decades and actually tested their contents :) Makes the cloudy vs amber discussion non-applicable. Harvesting when all clear comes with large cost of quantity, they tend to be at least cloudy by the time the calyxes swollen up but waiting for amber has for me been something of the past since I read the article.
 

Sativied

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Dark is IH#5, lighter is P#1B.
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Dropped ppm from 380 to 350 cause I was getting some lightened tips especially on the IH during a few hot humid days last week.

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Buds developing nicely:
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I've put L8N8 on hold for now because it stretches too much, keeping her around because she uses little space, but the top 1/5th of the plant is looking pretty good. Still very sativa-dom like mom:
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Wilksey

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Those plants look fucking AWESOME dude!

Not a burnt tip. No overfeeding "claws". No deficiencies.

One of these days, I'll be able to pull that off with my own grow, but my dumb n00b ass can't resist feeding these bitches even though they are dark green and don't need it, resulting in burnt tips, and a prompt flush.

But I'm gettin' better.

Sorta.

/sigh

Positive vibes dude.
 

Sativied

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Thanks Wilkset, can never have enough positive vibes :D

I know what exactly what you mean man, it is hard to resist adding more nutes. A while back someone posted a nice graph in the hydro forums, what it comes down to is that there is a point of diminishing returns. Simply put, being able to give them 700ppm without any 'overfeeding' signs, doesn't necessarily mean it will result in more yield than 500ppm. There's a whole range between 'enough' and 'too much' and what I try to do is stay on the low end of that range rather than 'pushing it' (they're not like geese or pigs). Keeps the roots, hence plant healthy.

A downside of my setup is that it's more suitable for clones or at least similar phenos from stable seed. They all get the same nute level and ratio, while in reality they all need a something slightly different. I'm pretty sure the plant in the back on the left (IH#1) will turn yellow prematurely, and the IH#5 will probably get some burned tips, for the sake of keeping the rest optimal.
 

Sativied

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One week after the previous groupshot in post #29, about 3 and a half week 12/12. Colors bleached by flash but the IH#5 (the strong tri-whorled right back) is greener in real life too.

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Sativied

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Fuck me...

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IH#5, one of the most beautiful plants I had so far... I've been a little sloppy when it comes to not disturbing them during light off, figured in the worst case I'll be able to select out the ones that are the least stress-resistant, and I did treat a branch with Tiresias Mist early on (branch died off, but new shoots formed and produced balls), and it has a lot of roots grown back into the rez so maybe nute shocked it to produce nanners, but in any case there's no denying that this one hermied too easily and is not suitable for my purposes.

My other whorled plants are still 100% female so no link there.

IH#5 :(
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What a shame...

I can't remove it entirely because of the roots being entangled with the other two in the same tube, so I cut of the top of most of the buds (nearly all had 1 or 2 nanners) and while keep an eye on it for a few days before I decided to cut all buds off. The nanners are besides the pistils the only non-frosty parts so they stand out pretty obvious.

The worst thing about it is that I used (wasted) the frozen quad pollen on it... which is now truly gone forever.

IH#1 looks too much like here mom (the ICE, pale, purple petioles, not much frost on leaves ) which isn't a good thing, so she's out of the race too.
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So, IH (ICE x CH) is going on ice for a while...

This round was meant to test the crosses so it served its purpose. Back to original plan, which is to work on P (Chunk x CH).

P#6, the most sativa, the most frosty, and currently looks like it will create the largest buds.
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skunkd0c

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found a example of the colour change i mentioned (light green/yellow) during early flower when plants are growing very fast
this Jamaican grape would go very light in colour during early flower but would "fix" itself by week 4 or so without any help from me/ food etc



different strain (angelheart) in the same system only very slight colour change


at 4 weeks Jamaican is thriving with a better colour


peace
 

Sativied

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Yes good clear examples. That Jamaican makes me drool. :weed: How did it taste?


Got H&G Aqua Flakes AB today, have been using Hydro AB till now. Aqua Flakes is specifically for recirculating system, especially with mag pumps.

Following is P#1B, clone of a tri-whorled.
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It gets the short end of the stick nutrient-wise. It's next to IH#5 which is a tad to dark and undoubtedly cramping this one in the root zone. P#1B was much smaller and vegged shorter. I expect it, and IH#1 (same tube) to end yellow-ish. IH#5 has more roots growing back in the rez than plants from seeds (taproot) that I vegged weeks longer. It's like it's sucking more N and Ca out of the rez before it all circulated several times. P#1A, darker than B, clones from same plant, also having roots back in rez, kind of confirms that.


Seeded P6 bud ( P x P, just a test):
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