Liberty Haze
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DrCannaPath
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What a lovely green sight ... nice dude .... very nice .... filling the screen fast... really its just a waiting game now til you flip. Maybe a week to 10? 
Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
chained
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Thank Dr!
Yeah, I was thinking to veg for another week... I'm so damn eager to see what happens! I've noted my grow is, in general terms, about a week behind yours with the three plants having a similar size ratio to each-other, too
So, I've been watching to see what your screen looks like when you do flip them and use that as a bit of a guide.
Yeah, I was thinking to veg for another week... I'm so damn eager to see what happens! I've noted my grow is, in general terms, about a week behind yours with the three plants having a similar size ratio to each-other, too
So, I've been watching to see what your screen looks like when you do flip them and use that as a bit of a guide.
chained
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Son of a bitch! I somehow dislodged some of the return tubing and managed to let 10 Liters of my freshly changed water to spill out. Indoor grow - carpeted room. Ha ha, damn, fortunately I heard something as I was about to head out for the afternoon and wouldn't be back for 12 hours. A quick top up with some RO water and I raised the PPM back up with some nutrients... Could have been much worse. That said I hope the floor doesn't get too damn mouldy and smell.
This being my first hydro setup, I was bound to have a spill/leak/something at some point. No harm done to the girls.
This being my first hydro setup, I was bound to have a spill/leak/something at some point.
No harm done to the girls.
DrCannaPath
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Sorry for the mishaps bro .... it happens and to the best of us .... glad uts all taken care of for now .... youll be laughing about this soon hah .... just make sure you turn some fans on around thw room to dry the carpets and if ya have a shop vac and a dehumidifier. ... put them to work tooSon of a bitch! I somehow dislodged some of the return tubing and managed to let 10 Liters of my freshly changed water to spill out. Indoor grow - carpeted room. Ha ha, damn, fortunately I heard something as I was about to head out for the afternoon and wouldn't be back for 12 hours. A quick top up with some RO water and I raised the PPM back up with some nutrients... Could have been much worse. That said I hope the floor doesn't get too damn mouldy and smell.
This being my first hydro setup, I was bound to have a spill/leak/something at some point.
Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
chained
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Oh, I'm laughing about it now, Dr...Sorry for the mishaps bro .... it happens and to the best of us .... glad uts all taken care of for now .... youll be laughing about this soon hah .... just make sure you turn some fans on around thw room to dry the carpets and if ya have a shop vac and a dehumidifier. ... put them to work too
Shit happens, I expected an 'aquatic event' at some point in my hydroponic adventure and I feel I got off lightly, I caught it before it became a 'catastrophic event!'Re: the grow... I did some serious pruning last night. Maybe even went too far on the runt of the three... I was feeling experimental and decided she can be the subject. Her branches are soft and flexible, compared to the others, and a bit stretchy, sickly looking by mere comparison with her sisters. I genuinely thought that plant, named 'Three,' had died as a seedling so the fact it's become what it has is great... but I don't expect much from it when I flip, compared to the others.
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DrCannaPath
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Ya never know .... she may disappoint you with yield but she may surprise you with her potency flavor scent etc .... ive grown a Northern light that struggled a little during seedling stage then really surprised me with great medicinal buds although the buds were very fluffy. Nonetheless those small and fluffy buds became the best I could use or offer a family member who needed pain control or muscle spasms relief .... total clear headed high .... as in you can function at work and around people and no one would know...except that your pain free and just for some odd reason super happy with a content smile on your fase! I have the last bud of it now!
Also im following a friend of mines journal (on different forum) and he just harvested a Barneys farm tangerine dream. The yield was disappointing to him and theouout the grow he wasnt happy with her. Now he praises the smoke
Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
Also im following a friend of mines journal (on different forum) and he just harvested a Barneys farm tangerine dream. The yield was disappointing to him and theouout the grow he wasnt happy with her. Now he praises the smoke
Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
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hellmutt bones
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Nice! Wish i wasn't so paranoid i would defenetly try and do a small grow like urs just to try liberty haze is that the barneys?Late nutrient change and photo
I've been a bit rough, learning some LST and SCROG techniques and hacked away a bunch of the growth underneath. All in all I'm still super happy with how it's going.
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chained
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Hi hellmutt, thanks! Yeah, they came from Barney's Farm seeds.
chained
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Hey, a bit of an update. I think it's time to flip them... As you can see in the 3 days since the last picture the growth is quite visible.
Two days ago I added H2O2 to the reservoir. While I hadn't noticed any specific symptoms of infection, every week I get a little bit of that surface algae/slime/whatever on the surface of the plastics submerged in the water [not on the surface of the water itself or any visible murk] and, I'm assuming, inside all the plumbing. It's figured it's largely managed by my weekly reservoir change and clean out, but I also wondered if this buildup of whatever-it-is would also be on the roots, maybe suffocating them or... interfering with something. Anyway, I did a little reading and I got some 50% h2o2 and used it 2ml per 10L into my reservoir. I gotta say that there's been a big difference in the color of the plants! I don't know if I can specifically put it down to the peroxide but the deep green of the plant runs through more consistently now. Previously, towards the new growth at the tops, it was lighter in color - not in a sick looking way at but lighter all the same. Two days after adding peroxide and it's a much deeper green in those areas. Do you think it's the added oxygen or perhaps it's killed some bacteria around the root system?
I'm not sure the color difference shows up in the picture but I assure you it's there... I'm glad I did it it looks quite healthy.
As I started out saying I think I'm ready to flip it... anyone?
Two days ago I added H2O2 to the reservoir. While I hadn't noticed any specific symptoms of infection, every week I get a little bit of that surface algae/slime/whatever on the surface of the plastics submerged in the water [not on the surface of the water itself or any visible murk] and, I'm assuming, inside all the plumbing. It's figured it's largely managed by my weekly reservoir change and clean out, but I also wondered if this buildup of whatever-it-is would also be on the roots, maybe suffocating them or... interfering with something. Anyway, I did a little reading and I got some 50% h2o2 and used it 2ml per 10L into my reservoir. I gotta say that there's been a big difference in the color of the plants! I don't know if I can specifically put it down to the peroxide but the deep green of the plant runs through more consistently now. Previously, towards the new growth at the tops, it was lighter in color - not in a sick looking way at but lighter all the same. Two days after adding peroxide and it's a much deeper green in those areas. Do you think it's the added oxygen or perhaps it's killed some bacteria around the root system?
I'm not sure the color difference shows up in the picture but I assure you it's there... I'm glad I did it it looks quite healthy.
As I started out saying I think I'm ready to flip it... anyone?
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DrCannaPath
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Looking great brother and I too agree with you that its time to flip let the excitement begin now
Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
let the excitement begin now Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
chained
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Great, thanks Dr.
So to transition I just increase the night cycle to 12? As discussed earlier I'll keep the MH in there for a while but I think I'll switch to flower nutrients, I get what you're saying about them but I'm not good enough around the plants to know what I'm doing there. Right now I've been sticking pretty close to the recommendations from the nutrient company and if I move away from them I'll feel lost.
I also took a few cuttings from the best two plants. They weren't chosen to be good clones, I really just wanted to experiment. I had trouble getting the temperate beneath the dome below 27C and subsequently all the cuttings wilted over. I've kept at it and in the last 12 hours they've started standing up and reaching for the light - all of them. I'm going to take a few more before I flip the girls as I want to try putting cuttings in rockwool, too, and see if I have the same success - well, these may still die, they're not a success yet but since they're reaching for the light right now I figure they're doing OK.
So to transition I just increase the night cycle to 12? As discussed earlier I'll keep the MH in there for a while but I think I'll switch to flower nutrients, I get what you're saying about them but I'm not good enough around the plants to know what I'm doing there. Right now I've been sticking pretty close to the recommendations from the nutrient company and if I move away from them I'll feel lost.
I also took a few cuttings from the best two plants. They weren't chosen to be good clones, I really just wanted to experiment. I had trouble getting the temperate beneath the dome below 27C and subsequently all the cuttings wilted over. I've kept at it and in the last 12 hours they've started standing up and reaching for the light - all of them.
I'm going to take a few more before I flip the girls as I want to try putting cuttings in rockwool, too, and see if I have the same success - well, these may still die, they're not a success yet but since they're reaching for the light right now I figure they're doing OK.Attachments
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DrCannaPath
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Awesome plan bro .... nothing wrong with taking it easy the first time around and just sticking whats easier. More grows to come and thus more chances to experiment.Great, thanks Dr.
So to transition I just increase the night cycle to 12? As discussed earlier I'll keep the MH in there for a while but I think I'll switch to flower nutrients, I get what you're saying about them but I'm not good enough around the plants to know what I'm doing there. Right now I've been sticking pretty close to the recommendations from the nutrient company and if I move away from them I'll feel lost.
I also took a few cuttings from the best two plants. They weren't chosen to be good clones, I really just wanted to experiment. I had trouble getting the temperate beneath the dome below 27C and subsequently all the cuttings wilted over. I've kept at it and in the last 12 hours they've started standing up and reaching for the light - all of them.
As far is the cloning goes, it seems they may succeed and root for ya that they overcame the initial wilting. As long as your control the environment for them, its just a week or so til they root! All those branches you clip off below the screen are potential clones. Experiment with them and see what gives ya the most success rate (for future reference)
...... oh keep in mind youll be a little busier in the next 2-3 weeks training the branches. With the accelerated growth, more visits to the tent are required to train the branches. Ive seen Liberty Haze stretch as much as 4 inches in one day Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
chained
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Well, I just finished hacking away a whole bunch of the growth under the canopy, and indeed some of the canopy... I was able to cut so much away, getting ready to flip them. I'll leave them now to recover a bit from the pruning before i do go 12/12. I hope I didn't go too far... but I'm happy with what I've left. I did take a lot off though 
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chained
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I just flipped my ladies, today is day one of 12/12
They got an extra sleep in, today, to bring them in line with the 12/12 schedule I want to run Exciting! Being Monday I swapped out the reservoir, took my photo and also changed the a/b nutrients I use to the flowering pair. I set the PPM at 1030 aiming for approximately 1000 as my water is an average of 25 PPM.
We've had a few hot days here recently and the temperature in the room shot up quickly. I've done a little work on the air ducting in/out of the tent and in/out the room the tent is in - it's more efficient now and I have another inline fan to assist with air IN - I'll put that in tomorrow and that'll help with air flow inside the tent too.
I can run my air-con, which is outside the room, on a timer to cool that end of the house but that'll get costly, I'm thinking about getting one of those simple evaporative cooler fans and loading the water tank with ice - anyone reading this got advice on those? The guy at the hydro shop says an evap. cooler like that with ice in the tank will last three days... I cant help but feel it'll just raise the humidity up and heat as a result.
They got an extra sleep in, today, to bring them in line with the 12/12 schedule I want to run
Exciting! Being Monday I swapped out the reservoir, took my photo and also changed the a/b nutrients I use to the flowering pair. I set the PPM at 1030 aiming for approximately 1000 as my water is an average of 25 PPM.We've had a few hot days here recently and the temperature in the room shot up quickly. I've done a little work on the air ducting in/out of the tent and in/out the room the tent is in - it's more efficient now and I have another inline fan to assist with air IN - I'll put that in tomorrow and that'll help with air flow inside the tent too.
I can run my air-con, which is outside the room, on a timer to cool that end of the house but that'll get costly, I'm thinking about getting one of those simple evaporative cooler fans and loading the water tank with ice - anyone reading this got advice on those? The guy at the hydro shop says an evap. cooler like that with ice in the tank will last three days... I cant help but feel it'll just raise the humidity up and heat as a result.
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DrCannaPath
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Looking beautiful brother ... keep up what youre doing youre a natural! Your girls are loving the high ppm.
I too have to do this and get an intake fan to push cold air in my tent and assist in the cooling. With both lights in and running, i doubt my extraction fan can handle it with a huge carbon filter hooked to it. Ya just got me more motivated to get off my butt and shop for it hah
No experience with these ac units but (although this maybe out of my own ignorance on the matter) I too am worried about humidity (and possible microbial overgrowth inside the AC and around the cooling components. It kinda makes sense to worry i think. Hopefully someone with experience can enlighten us all here!
Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
I too have to do this and get an intake fan to push cold air in my tent and assist in the cooling. With both lights in and running, i doubt my extraction fan can handle it with a huge carbon filter hooked to it. Ya just got me more motivated to get off my butt and shop for it hah
No experience with these ac units but (although this maybe out of my own ignorance on the matter) I too am worried about humidity (and possible microbial overgrowth inside the AC and around the cooling components. It kinda makes sense to worry i think. Hopefully someone with experience can enlighten us all here!
Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
chained
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Thanks bro I'm so happy just to have kept them alive, to be honest, let alone feel like I'm having a bit of success! I have another round of the same seeds ready in case I killed these first ones and I had to start over... Expectation vs preparation!
Yeah man, I need to fit the IN fan, I have a capable fan attached to a bigass filter, in the tent, but the walls of the tent suck in when it's all zipped up. This second in-line fan is only 250CFM but I'm expecting it should pick up some of the slack. Go get one!
Yeah, that's it, I can't get past the humidity to be expected with the evap. cooler. I'll see how it goes with the new fan, the ducting, it might be okay... there are always options.
Yeah man, I need to fit the IN fan, I have a capable fan attached to a bigass filter, in the tent, but the walls of the tent suck in when it's all zipped up. This second in-line fan is only 250CFM but I'm expecting it should pick up some of the slack. Go get one!
Yeah, that's it, I can't get past the humidity to be expected with the evap. cooler. I'll see how it goes with the new fan, the ducting, it might be okay... there are always options.
chained
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Here's a tent tip that I worked out, maybe old news to everyone else...
First up, my grow tent is a standard 1.2m by 1.2m by 2m. I have a 150x600mm carbon filter, a reasonably good quality extraction fan attached to that and a quality (heavy) sealed hood all hanging from the roof frame/crossbars of the tent. Of course, it's top heavy and I was noticing when I use a big arc movement to open/close the main tent zip, I had to hold the tent frame steady - it would sway which would cause the equipment inside to rock a little bit - It doesn't feel like immanent danger but I wouldn't push my luck, those two meter tall poles could buckle, though I appreciate the tent around it helps it hold it's shape somewhat.
When I put my SCROG screen up, the way I attached it was by cable tie to the vertical poles of the tent. This meant I could easily slide the screen up and down at will, along the poles as sliders, set to height and so on.
Now, I'll get the point... Once I attached the screen to the frame with cable ties, the screen effectively became PART OF the frame and support structure. The whole tent is rock solid now, the addition of a square frame around the middle has made a huge difference, so much so that I'll put the screen up straight away on the next grow for the peace of mind.
So, if you feel your tent is a little wobbly put up a frame around the middle, or, if you want to kill two birds with one stone tie your SCROG screen into the frame.
First up, my grow tent is a standard 1.2m by 1.2m by 2m. I have a 150x600mm carbon filter, a reasonably good quality extraction fan attached to that and a quality (heavy) sealed hood all hanging from the roof frame/crossbars of the tent. Of course, it's top heavy and I was noticing when I use a big arc movement to open/close the main tent zip, I had to hold the tent frame steady - it would sway which would cause the equipment inside to rock a little bit - It doesn't feel like immanent danger but I wouldn't push my luck, those two meter tall poles could buckle, though I appreciate the tent around it helps it hold it's shape somewhat.
When I put my SCROG screen up, the way I attached it was by cable tie to the vertical poles of the tent. This meant I could easily slide the screen up and down at will, along the poles as sliders, set to height and so on.
Now, I'll get the point... Once I attached the screen to the frame with cable ties, the screen effectively became PART OF the frame and support structure. The whole tent is rock solid now, the addition of a square frame around the middle has made a huge difference, so much so that I'll put the screen up straight away on the next grow for the peace of mind.
So, if you feel your tent is a little wobbly put up a frame around the middle, or, if you want to kill two birds with one stone tie your SCROG screen into the frame.
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chained
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Day two if 12/12 
I don't really have anything to add apart from this picture. I'm just posting it because after I took it and happened to swipe left on my phone, bringing up the previous picture and I was impressed by how much it had grown in just a day.
Oh, I do have a question! So now that the plants are in flower how long am I meant to keep training it, just until I run out of room then let it grow up?
Thanks
I don't really have anything to add apart from this picture.
I'm just posting it because after I took it and happened to swipe left on my phone, bringing up the previous picture and I was impressed by how much it had grown in just a day. Oh, I do have a question! So now that the plants are in flower how long am I meant to keep training it, just until I run out of room then let it grow up?
Thanks
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DrCannaPath
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Very nice bro ... and that is a nice difference in one day hah .. watch the outta control growth soon.
So you will keep training the branches when they go over 3-4 inches above the screen. 2-3 weeks later you will notice more pistils shooting out and less upward stretch. You jeep them at the 3-4 inches above and watch them shoot upward with bud production. Usually you'll train for a couple weeks. More for sativa dom and less for shorter and faster flowering indica dom.
My experience with LH 2-3 weeks closer to 3
Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/
So you will keep training the branches when they go over 3-4 inches above the screen. 2-3 weeks later you will notice more pistils shooting out and less upward stretch. You jeep them at the 3-4 inches above and watch them shoot upward with bud production. Usually you'll train for a couple weeks. More for sativa dom and less for shorter and faster flowering indica dom.
My experience with LH 2-3 weeks closer to 3
Check out my current TriStrain grow:
https://www.rollitup.org/index.php?threads/883569/