Rob Roy
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I could point out where the government isn't supposed to have a standing army. Derp dee durr.
Obama is coming for your guns
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I could point out where the government isn't supposed to have a standing army. Derp dee durr.
see4
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But that's not the debate.
So sorry to see your entire debate completely deflated. Better luck next time.
see4
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I apologize for my earlier comment. This thread is not bullshit, Obama is coming for our guns. I probably would have been more specific in my headline, such as, "Obama is coming for semi-automatic assault rifles and high capacity magazines" - but I suppose the OP only knows the Fox way of doing things.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/wh_now_is_the_time_full.pdf
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/wh_now_is_the_time_full.pdf
NLXSK1
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Got a new microscope too eh?
Pinworm
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UncleBuck
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the supreme court already did, you literalist.
Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.
UncleBuck
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what's the gun ownership rate like in england, where you are 46 times less likely to be killed by a gun?
UncleBuck
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i am more intelligent than you, and that upsets you.
Pinworm
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Who's the jerkoff in your new sig? That is some substantially disgusting shit to read.
jijiandfarmgang
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UncleBuck
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we outmatch their stabbings with shootings in only 47 days.
our gun homicide rate exceeds their total homicide rate by multiples, much less their knife homicide rate.
if you are trying to convince me that knives are better killing tools than guns, you have to do more.
and i never cut my steak with a gun either.
UncleBuck
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he's an old hit. lots of long winded purple prose, and some hard to reconcile ideation. your classic neckbeard gone senile.
desert dude
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What is the violent crime like in England where you are 4 times as likely to be assaulted?
What are the gun control laws like in Chicago, where you are 400 times more likely to be killed by an armed robber than in Lewiston, Idaho?
An inconvenient truth:
Pinworm
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God damn. Haven't felt my guts twist that hard on a quote in quite a while.
UncleBuck
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you need to cite your stats. even your silly graph is unattributed. it might as all be made up.
here are facts, which are cited: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime
Murders with firearms 14
Ranked 39th. 9,369
Ranked 4th. 669 times more than United Kingdom
it also goes on to say that the assault rate in england is 2.8 % compared to the unites states at 1.2 %. interestingly, japan ranks comes in at 0.1 %, and they have strict gun control there too.
maybe we should model our gun control after japan, eh?
desert dude
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"maybe we should model our gun control after japan, eh?"
Then we would have to commit suicide at a 50% higher rate. No, thanks.
Just accept it. The US is founded on the constitution. The constitution prohibits the government from infringing on the people's right to bear arms. If you want to outlaw gun ownership, then amend the constitution. Get crackin'.
Then we would have to commit suicide at a 50% higher rate. No, thanks.
Just accept it. The US is founded on the constitution. The constitution prohibits the government from infringing on the people's right to bear arms. If you want to outlaw gun ownership, then amend the constitution. Get crackin'.
UncleBuck
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nope. you are a literalist, and literalists are dumb, dumb people.
check the supreme court's rulings.
Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.
desert dude
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"maybe we should model our gun control after japan, eh?"
Then we would have to commit suicide at a 50% higher rate. No, thanks.
Just accept it. The US is founded on the constitution. The constitution prohibits the government from infringing on the people's right to bear arms. If you want to outlaw gun ownership, then amend the constitution. Get crackin'.
The AR15 is the most common rifle in the US. By your citation, the government can't infringe the citizen's right to keep and bear an AR.
Why are you, and most lefties, so frightened and mistrustful of fellow citizens.
The US is a wonderful and safe place, founded on the most important document that recognizes the fundamental freedom of individual people. Why are lefties so intent on destroying individual freedom and placing the yoke of government on the necks of citizens? Are you too obtuse to look around the world and see where your desires will take us? No, thanks. If you want to choke on a government cock, then emigrate.
Then we would have to commit suicide at a 50% higher rate. No, thanks.
Just accept it. The US is founded on the constitution. The constitution prohibits the government from infringing on the people's right to bear arms. If you want to outlaw gun ownership, then amend the constitution. Get crackin'.
Japan is a different country with a different culture than the US, Andy. They should model their civil rights on the US and prohibit their government from infringing on their citizen's right to keep and bear.
The AR15 is the most common rifle in the US. By your citation, the government can't infringe the citizen's right to keep and bear an AR.
Why are you, and most lefties, so frightened and mistrustful of fellow citizens. The US is a wonderful and safe place, founded on the most important document that recognizes the fundamental freedom of individual people. Why are lefties so intent on destroying individual freedom and placing the yoke of government on the necks of citizens? Are you too obtuse to look around the world and see where your desires will take us? No, thanks. If you want to choke on a government cock, then emigrate.
UncleBuck
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yes, very few heavily armed white supremacist cop wannabes like you, george.
but then their assault rates and gun homicides would skyrocket.
did you have any point by showing assault rates where gun control is strict? because england is an anomaly. we rank in the top 10 in assaults, despite our massive gun collection.
they already did, for 10 years, and the gun homicide rate went way down. remember 1994-2004, retard? was self defense impossible during that time?
says the guy who wants to "defend the roost" when his home is worth $199k (and dropping) in a shithole in the middle of nowhere and with nothing to even rob.
you don't even have $800 to keep your stupid little event going. loser.
we are actually 7th in violent crimes out of every nation on earth. 4th in murders with firearms. objectively, we are one of the least safe nations on earth.
you are a propagandist, a white supremacist, a cop wannabe, and your wife is fat.
have fun being wrong about everything, and watching me beat you in everything.