Best way to combat pythium and root rot in all hydroponic growing methods.

Budley Doright

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Bud, this looks to me like you are clearly you are selling dope for $200/oz on this site to me.... Advertising selling dope on the internet, hmmm. That's not very bright, that reaches into interstate commerce on the internet, that touched Federal Drug Regulations, red flags, people looking, shame on you... you may need a lot of good luck on this one after such a stupid statement.
Hahaha I laugh in the face of danger :). Interstate commerce you say, federal drug regs you say. LOL.
 

Budley Doright

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Alright thanks a lot! I'll see what happens with them over the time until the HG gets here, checked my root temp after about 12 hours and the root area is still only 63 degrees, so I don't believe that was the answer either, maybe it could have came from my cloner which I run 24/7 to keep the temps up more around 70-72 and I run nothing but RO water, I think when my hg gets here I will start fresh with some new seedlings I'm germing and run half tap water half RO water in the cloner, anything you ran in your cloner to prevent the funk? Off hand I'm thinking I'll mix RO and tap and then run 10ml a gallon peroxide ?
I used root riot cubes last few clone starts and had great success.
 

LordRalh3

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he's an idiot troll that doesn't even grow bud guys just ignore his drivel about "do you KNOW your DO" crap. he'll be banned from here before to long in sure, he obviously doesn't realize hes trolling a million plus member marijuana forum or something
 

Budley Doright

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what do you normally fish for? and where?

we've got 2 gold medal trout streams within 30 minutes of me. just never enough time to go as much as i'd like.
Salmon on the big lake (ontario) and anything that bites in my lake. I live to fish. Just got back from BC and did a bunch of float fishing for trout. I caught 2 lake trout yesterday just casting off my dock with smelts on a float :).
 

Budley Doright

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You fly fish then? I play a bit with mine but no rivers that have trout here :) just lots of lakes, gonna rig up some streamers for pike opening in a few weeks and take out the 8 weight :).
 

Budley Doright

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he's an idiot troll that doesn't even grow bud guys just ignore his drivel about "do you KNOW your DO" crap. he'll be banned from here before to long in sure, he obviously doesn't realize hes trolling a million plus member marijuana forum or something
Yes your right :(. I'm done lol.
 

rkymtnman

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You fly fish then? I play a bit with mine but no rivers that have trout here :) just lots of lakes, gonna rig up some streamers for pike opening in a few weeks and take out the 8 weight :).
nope, not fly fishing. just spinning/baitcasting stuff. i just started trying for pike last year. still need to improve. i love eating pike and once i saw a youtube vid on how to filet one in 5 steps without bones, i was kinda hooked. plus those fish will destroy a lure kinda like a largemouth bass. love to fish topwater. all the lakes around here want you to catch and remove all the pike so they don't decimate the other species.
 

churchhaze

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Do the roots normally shed old and dead cells? Like many living organisms do? If so, you would still need to control that, I would think, being a food source.
Roots have storage vessels called amyloplasts which are designed to hold starch. When the roots are unhealthy/dead, they become soft and the starch seeps out and makes the roots slimy. That becomes infected.
 

J Henry

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Roots have storage vessels called amyloplasts which are designed to hold starch. When the roots are unhealthy/dead, they become soft and the starch seeps out and makes the roots slimy. That becomes infected.
The plant gets stressed, releases stress chemicals, that alerts the fungi that the feast is near signaling "dead cells and brown slime." Abundant fungus food is available to eat... and the fungi feast in on. Maintain healthy plants and there is nothing for Pythium and other fungi to eat, prevent the release of stress chemicals. Maintain healthy biologicals and retard the fungal over-run (biological combat) so to speak. When you can't maintain plant health and biologicals health, then you will surely deal with the fungal outbreaks and infestations, dying biologicals and sickly plants. There is a method to the infestation process. There is also a method to prevention.
 

WeedFreak78

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Roots have storage vessels called amyloplasts which are designed to hold starch. When the roots are unhealthy/dead, they become soft and the starch seeps out and makes the roots slimy. That becomes infected.
But at the cellular level, do root cells die off and get replaced? I assuming most living things would, idk. We leave behind skin cells as dust, so I'm thinking there's always going to be trace dead organic cells to deal with naturally, not from neglect or abuse? I thought one main reason behind running bennies is to consume and break down those naturally occurring organics so it didn't become a harbor for other bacteria.
 

Budley Doright

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Dead things rot. If you want to prevent your roots from rotting, prevent them from dying.

Root rot comes from the roots.
That's kinda the whole point of this I think, a healthy root zone. What happened to weed is kind of different than what I experienced, temps killed mine but his seem to be ok so really the only other thing I can think of would be O2, any thoughts Church?
 

churchhaze

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But at the cellular level, do root cells die off and get replaced? I assuming most living things would, idk. We leave behind skin cells as dust, so I'm thinking there's always going to be trace dead organic cells to deal with naturally, not from neglect or abuse? I thought one main reason behind running bennies is to consume and break down those naturally occurring organics so it didn't become a harbor for other bacteria.
I'm pretty sure that the only place regeneration happens with cannabis is at the root and shoot apical meristems. I've never heard of leaves or roots repairing themselves after losing tissue to insects or other forms of damage.
 

churchhaze

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That's kinda the whole point of this I think, a healthy root zone. What happened to weed is kind of different than what I experienced, temps killed mine but his seem to be ok so really the only other thing I can think of would be O2, any thoughts Church?
Lack of O2 would definitely kill the roots and cause them to rot. Another issue could be too low in EC. Think about what happens when you shower for too long. You're bathing in water that has less salt than your skin tissue, so the osmotic pressure gradient causes water to flow into your skin, causing cells to expand and become wrinkly. The same can happen to roots, making them "wrinkly" like your skin is when it's in the water for too long.

 

Budley Doright

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Lack of O2 would definitely kill the roots and cause them to rot. Another issue could be too low in EC. Think about what happens when you shower for too long. You're bathing in water that has less salt than your skin tissue, so the osmotic pressure gradient causes water to flow into your skin, causing cells to expand and become wrinkly. The same can happen to roots, making them "wrinkly" like your skin is when it's in the water for too long.

Well that puts a new twist in everything I've done lol. I actually do keep things on the low end of the scale but the plants have always looked happy, never thought about roots. I have pretty much figured out my setup. Insulating the tops of root chamber lids helped the roots stay cooler, added a passive loop chiller to keep temps at 65ish. And yes hydroguard of which I really have no clue if it helps because I haven't stopped using it since the chiller, and started using it two weeks before but it did as I say save the plants. One plant had a single brown root hanging down and it made it back lol.
 
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