Stem Scraping

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TherealMickey

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I recently tested a theory I picked up somewhere and found it very effective. Scrape outer layer of the stems of clones after about 2-3 days in the cloner. Taking off the skin where you want roots seems to delay root production but when roots do show they show up big time.

Everyone may already know this but it's new to me after 15 years of learning. This is the most useful technique I've picked up in a while. - Cheers
 
vostok

vostok

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just under the 'skin' is a layer called the cambium

its from here the rootlets form

its also why gardeners cut their stems at 45 degrees

to expose as much of the cambium as they can

the cambium is easily infected thats why you gotta see this as a sterile situation

many noobs like to feed their cuts, a mistake waiting for the bacterial infection to start

simply smear household honey onto your cuts and insert to ur bubble cloner of medium

good luck
 
indicoxy12

indicoxy12

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Well I'm not trying to hijack you're thread but I just cut 5 clones on the 30th and they're all dead now first they was droopy practically laying down now as days pass not only is the rapid rooters molding but the plants are turning lighter as well so I know mold not good so I threw most of em out I checked the healthiest 1 to see that it haven't even began roots yet
 
indicoxy12

indicoxy12

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I used rapid rooters I soaked the plugs in rapid start then I dipped the tip into ROOTek cloning gel moist the dome what did I do wrong?? Should I have used soil
 
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TherealMickey

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My set up doesn't have a dome. I've tried different set ups and have found that an aeroponic cloner with an integrated air pump pushing air into the exit of the water pump works best. I can't remember the brand and am trying to find it for you. Anyone know? I have almost 100% success with running only Clonex at recommended dose. Constant water AND air in the same stream seems to be the tits.
Also, minimize the amount of vegetation to start with. Just 2 or 3 leaves and if they are large, cut them so they are only about an inch or two. The more green on top, the more need for roots which aren't there yet.
 
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TherealMickey

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Search "aeroponic cloner" on google and you'll get the idea. The water pump shoots water straight up into a domed lid shooting it up and then out in all directions 360 degrees. Mine has air mixed into the water with an integrated air pump where air and water mix before hitting the lid. Just remembered that a friend of mine has a 96 site cloner much like the "
TurboKlone T96 Clone Machine" I just found with google. His key to the air issue is 15 minutes on and the 15 off constantly. He hardly ever loses one with that and just Clonex also. He dips in gel and then uses the solution.
 
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TherealMickey

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Company is out of business. New World Hydroponics : The Aquastorm Turbocharged Aeroponic Cloning System. However, I found a very good description and see no reason why you couldn't make one...

Hormone free plant propagation The Aquastorm utilizes the aero-hydroponic method of plant propagation. The aero-hydroponic method is a hybrid combination of aquaculture and aeroponics which when combined together create the most sophisticated method of stem cutting propagation currently available. The tip of each stem cutting is submerged in a highly oxygenated nutrient solution while the trunk of the cutting's stem is in continuous contact with a high intensity oxygen charged 360 degree horizontal spray that stimulates rapid root formation without wilting in less than 7 days, and prolific root systems as pictured in as little as 14 days, all without the use of rooting hormones. Tomato cuttings after 13 days in the Aquastorm without rooting hormones. [top] How does the Aquastorm differ from other cloning machines that I have seen? The Aquastorm is the first cloning machine to inject air via an external air pump, directly into a tubular manifold connected to the output tube of a submersible water pump. This pressurized air injection system produces the highest level of dissolved oxygen possible. The Aquastorm's unique turbocharged air injection system doubles as humidifier. As air is injected into the system, the rooting chamber pressurizes creating a gaseous exchange which pushes warm moist air out through the oversized holes in the rubber plant holders and into the plants foliage eliminating the need for a humidity dome. [top] Lifetime split rubber plant holders The Aquastorm is the only cloning machine on the market to feature lifetime rubber plant holders. Our plant holders are custom made from a natural SBR rubber blend which is the same material used to make the rubber grommets found on most hydroponic systems. The result is a plant holder that is impervious to nutrient salts, bleach, and bacteria. Our plant holders will last the life of your cloning machine, unlike cheap neoprene foam rubber plugs and bacteria harboring coconut fiber covers that need periodic replacement. And because our plant holders allow each cutting to hang freely without shielding the stem from the nutrient spray with a plastic net pot, the cuttings exhibit greater root development because the stem is in direct contact with the nutrient spray. This feature also allows the grower to leave the cuttings in the Aquastorm longer without the worry of the roots entrapping themselves in the bottom and sides of a plastic net pot enabling your cuttings to produce a prolific root system so they take off in record time after transplantation. Our plant holders are also the secret to our leak proof plastic lid. The underside of each rubber plant holder, act together as a series of spray baffles which prevent the nutrient spray from exiting the open holes in each plant holder. This allows the grower to root from 1-28 cuttings without the worry of damaging surrounding surfaces such as mylar from nutrient salt over spray. The baffle effect and the horizontal nutrient spray allow the grower to check each cutting for signs of rooting individually without the need to remove the Aquastorm's lid or unplug the submersible water pump.
 
indicoxy12

indicoxy12

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Thanks alot I never considered using this but I will now it's sad bcuz I don't have any money to buy it right now and I see the one that I want on Amazon tho
 
guerillagrowr

guerillagrowr

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indicoxy12 said:
Thanks alot I never considered using this but I will now it's sad bcuz I don't have any money to buy it right now and I see the one that I want on Amazon tho
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Indicoxy... You can build an aeroponic cloning bucket for real cheap. This is what I use and I have 100% success... I also cut pretty big clones from my mothers. I think this cost me about $50 with all the nutes too.

What you need...

5 Gal Bucket with Lid
Aquarium Pump
3ft of hose
2 hose end caps
1 hose "T" joint
1 Pack of H20 nozzles (the little red things in the pics)
Neoprene Collars


Build...

Cut hose into 2 1ft sections and 1 2in section.

Connect the 2in section to the bottom of the "T" joint, and each 1ft section on either side of the T.

Cap each end, and add your H2O nozzles to the hose. (The easiest way to get these into the hose is to heat a paperclip up and poke little holes in the hose where you want each nozzle. After you make the holes the nozzles pop right in.)

Connect all of this to the aquarium H2O pump and place it in the bottom of the bucket.

Cut as many holes in the lid as you want clone sites. And, one additional hole for the pump power cord.

Use neoprene cuffs to fill each hole, these will hold the stems of the clones.

You can choose to run an air stone into the bucket too, but I usually don't as the water is oxygenated when it is sprayed.


Cloning...

After cutting at a 45 angle I dip the clones in Clonex rooting gel and place each stem in a neoprene collar in each hole of the bucket.

H2O in bucket should be just over the level of the pump but under the hoses so they can spray the roots as they are suspended above the nozzles.

I use UC Roots and Clonex solution in the bucket between 200 and 250 ppm.

I add a dome to the bucket for humidity. I do this with a normal rectangle dome and some plastic wrap. If needed, I use a humidifier to keep the clones form wilting.

Let me know if you have any questions... I am happy to help!
 

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CannaBruh

CannaBruh

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second the Clone King 25, could be made DIY very easy, but for the money and time you would be hard pressed to do better than what they ask for one. It's a really classy little unit, not as "highend" as an ez-clone but a lot less money up front.

I did bubble cloning for many many years, and have always wanted to go aero, dialed in aero rocks
 
indicoxy12

indicoxy12

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Ok thanks alot bro I got some of this stuff already simultaneously lol I gotta write this down gimme one sec
 
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