Pile of curing weed

[BobCajun]

things ive noted
-BobCajun doesnt smoke so he doesnt seem concerned to much on potency/quality
-by not smoking he is growing for profit so trying to get his product out there is more important
-by being profit driven he wants his weed to weigh the most possible to get the most out of it
my thoughts this technique is not for the connoisseur

Well green buds have full starch content, unless the plants were left in darkness for at least 24 hours before chopping. The heat curing converts the starch to sugar and then the fermentation reduces the sugar by about half. That's a tradeoff between max weight and max potency. If I skipped the fermentation phase it would be max weight but considerably harsher. The heating pad won't get above 115-120 until the buds start getting close to dry anyway so there's no way to avoid the fermenting, unless I took the cover completely off or dried it in an oven instead.

 

[KarmaPaymentPlan]

Well green buds have full starch content, unless the plants were left in darkness for at least 24 hours before chopping. The heat curing converts the starch to sugar and then the fermentation reduces the sugar by about half. That's a tradeoff between max weight and max potency. If I skipped the fermentation phase it would be max weight but considerably harsher. The heating pad won't get above 115-120 until the buds start getting close to dry anyway so there's no way to avoid the fermenting, unless I took the cover completely off or dried it in an oven instead.

didnt you ferment for the first time like last page....?
doesnt that just kinda prove my point? no point getting upset about it, you painted a very clear picture of what kind of producer you are

 

[BobCajun]

didnt you ferment for the first time like last page....?
doesnt that just kinda prove my point? no point getting upset about it, you painted a very clear picture of what kind of producer you are

Yes, now I'm a journeyman fermenter.

 

[Yodaweed]

Turned out well. Getting it wet again made it ferment, start putting out ammonia. It took 5 days total so I call it the 5 Day Cure. Smooth, rich Colombian.

Congrats you composted your buds, now they look like schwag. And a proper cure isn't done in 5 days , more like 5 weeks.

 

[BobCajun]

Congrats you composted your buds, now they look like schwag. And a proper cure isn't done in 5 days , more like 5 weeks.

Oh, sorry, I didn't realize that the world authority on curing was on the forum. Okay, just pretend the title is "pile of composting weed" then. Of course, no curing occurs after the material gets below 70% RH so unless you have some way of maintaining that RH for the 5 weeks you're just kidding yourself that any curing was involved. At about 60-65% RH what you're doing is called aging. Two different things. Aging is good, up to a point, but it's not curing, that's why it's called aging and not curing. See how it's two different words? If what you're doing is curing than please describe aging.

 

[MisterBouncyBounce]

this is what wikipedia has to say.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curing_(food_preservation)
Curing (food preservation)
Curing is any of various food preservation and flavoring processes of foods such as meat, fish and vegetables, by the addition of combinations of salt, nitrates, nitrites,[1] or sugar, with the aim of drawing moisture out of the food by the process of osmosis. Many curing processes also involve smoking, spicing, or cooking. Dehydration was the earliest form of food curing.[1] Because curing increases the solute concentration in the food and hence decreases its water potential, the food becomes inhospitable for the microbe growth that causes food spoilage. Curing can be traced back to antiquity, and was the primary way of preserving meat and fish until the late 19th century.


aging is a little more involved. take your pick from the page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageing_(disambiguation)

Ageing (disambiguation)

Chemistry

• Polymer degradation, a change of polymer properties due to environmental factors
• Precipitation hardening, a heat treatment of materials
• Ostwald ripening, precipitate or deposit aging in chemistry

Food preparation

• Aging of wine, the effect of time on wine
• Barrel aging
• Beef aging
• Cheese aging
• Hanging (meat)

 

[Budget Buds]

Oh, sorry, I didn't realize that the world authority on curing was on the forum. Okay, just pretend the title is "pile of composting weed" then. Of course, no curing occurs after the material gets below 70% RH so unless you have some way of maintaining that RH for the 5 weeks you're just kidding yourself that any curing was involved. At about 60-65% RH what you're doing is called aging. Two different things. Aging is good, up to a point, but it's not curing, that's why it's called aging and not curing. See how it's two different words? If what you're doing is curing than please describe aging.

I've heard differently on the RH percentages , Below 54% no curing goes on, If it's not the case then could you provide me a link to some info about the subject?

 

[Yodaweed]

Oh, sorry, I didn't realize that the world authority on curing was on the forum. Okay, just pretend the title is "pile of composting weed" then. Of course, no curing occurs after the material gets below 70% RH so unless you have some way of maintaining that RH for the 5 weeks you're just kidding yourself that any curing was involved. At about 60-65% RH what you're doing is called aging. Two different things. Aging is good, up to a point, but it's not curing, that's why it's called aging and not curing. See how it's two different words? If what you're doing is curing than please describe aging.

Boveta pack broseph. Keeps a perfect 62% humidity. between 60-65% isn't aging it's curing , you might need to read up.

 

[Bugeye]

Boveta pack broseph. Keeps a perfect 62% humidity. between 60-65% isn't aging it's curing , you might need to read up.

Do people really prefer weed stored at 62%? Yuck, too wet in my book. Everything seems to open up in the mid-50s, aroma wise, and that's my preference.

 

[Yodaweed]

Do people really prefer weed stored at 62%? Yuck, too wet in my book. Everything seems to open up in the mid-50s, aroma wise, and that's my preference.

Boveta makes a 58% pack too, so if you prefer that go with that. Just gonna be a bit more dry, after curing for a month+ with a 63% pack the buds are crispy but still dank , they crack apart but still feel moist, to me that's a perfect cure, when the buds make a snap but still feel dank and not totally dried out.

 

[CannaBruh]

The 62% is not 62% moisture content in the plant, 62% seems right at a nice spot to me with the Bovedas, I'd be worried of dipping below that cutoff for curing with anything less.

For me it's when a pile of crumbled calyx will kind of "ooze down the mountain" so to speak. They have a greasy molasses rate of tumbling down one another. Too dry and it will just crumble, too moist and it won't break up.

 

[ILLwannabe]

This thread may have been better posted in the grow journal area... Just me, but I think the research into this matter would be better done and organized without all the bickering back and forth. I think the saying goes, if you ain't got nothin nice to say, don't say nothin at all.

 

[ILLwannabe]

For all of you who are civil.. Well +rep to you

 

[BobCajun]

Most people over dry. Weed is analogous to Burley when air cured. All you need do is meet the following conditions and it's almost impossible to screw up.

Burley’s quality is influenced by moisture and temperature conditions inside the curing facility during the curing period. Steady or average daily humidity in the 72‐75% range is considered optimum for producing the quality of tobacco leaves currently desired by the industry. The optimum temperature is considered to be in a range of mean daily temperatures from 65 to 90˚F.
source

 

[Budget Buds]

Most people over dry. Weed is analogous to Burley when air cured. All you need do is meet the following conditions and it's almost impossible to screw up.

But that is tobacco and you are curing cannabis, Two different things with two different objectives .

 

[MisterBouncyBounce]

what are the reasons curing takes a long time? the best i can understand, you dry it slow so there is enough time for chlorophyll can break down.

if it dries too fast, when internal moisture reaches a certain level, chlorophyll's break down stops.

so you don't want it to get dry until chlorophyll finishes breaking down.

how long that actually takes i don't know.

once that happens though, what else is happening over those many months that makes the weed better?

why is long better, what are you giving the bud a chance to do?

 

[waterproof808]

Cannabis is not analogous to Tobacco unless you are priming fan leaves to make cannagars...the tobacco industries goals are alot different than cannabis. You are also ignoring the fact that the tobacco has to put in a shit ton of additives to make their shit palatable and have a longer shelf life.

 

[a senile fungus]

what are the reasons curing takes a long time? the best i can understand, you dry it slow so there is enough time for chlorophyll can break down.

if it dries too fast, when internal moisture reaches a certain level, chlorophyll's break down stops.

so you don't want it to get dry until chlorophyll finishes breaking down.

how long that actually takes i don't know.

once that happens though, what else is happening over those many months that makes the weed better?

why is long better, what are you giving the bud a chance to do?

Decarboxylation.

 

[MisterBouncyBounce]

Decarboxylation.

ahhh ok, that's right.

ok, so then if we try to decarboxylate fast at higher temps then terpenes and other type things break down?

 

[BobCajun]

what are the reasons curing takes a long time? the best i can understand, you dry it slow so there is enough time for chlorophyll can break down.

if it dries too fast, when internal moisture reaches a certain level, chlorophyll's break down stops.

so you don't want it to get dry until chlorophyll finishes breaking down.

how long that actually takes i don't know.

once that happens though, what else is happening over those many months that makes the weed better?

why is long better, what are you giving the bud a chance to do?

It takes 3-4 weeks at room temperature.