Larry's Fall/Winter seed tests

sandhill larry

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I dug 11 holes for my Spring crop today. I used 1 gallon each of the 1st Kitty Litter mix and Adult Tomato mix per hole. {except the last hole which only had 1 1/2 gallons}

This land belongs to another cousin. It was hayfield until 20 years ago, when it was planted in pines. My cousin sold the trees too early because of economic embarrassment. And for the same reason it was not planted back in pines. Just enough cover to get away with shorter plants, but I wouldn't try full season's there. Maybe in a couple more years.
 

bassman999

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I dug 11 holes for my Spring crop today. I used 1 gallon each of the 1st Kitty Litter mix and Adult Tomato mix per hole. {except the last hole which only had 1 1/2 gallons}

This land belongs to another cousin. It was hayfield until 20 years ago, when it was planted in pines. My cousin sold the trees too early because of economic embarrassment. And for the same reason it was not planted back in pines. Just enough cover to get away with shorter plants, but I wouldn't try full season's there. Maybe in a couple more years.
Hope you arent too sore tomorrow from all that work
 

sandhill larry

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Hope you arent too sore tomorrow from all that work
No big feat. I'm digging the holes about 18-24" wide and 18-24" deep. I don't want them to get too big. If I had planned it out, I would have dropped off the 22 gallons of soil, pack, buckets and shovel closer to the patch. Instead I carried it all the way from my parking spot. It was what I didn't bring that was the big deal. No saw and no water bottle. I'm glad it was only 11 holes.
 

bassman999

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No big feat. I'm digging the holes about 18-24" wide and 18-24" deep. I don't want them to get too big. If I had planned it out, I would have dropped off the 22 gallons of soil, pack, buckets and shovel closer to the patch. Instead I carried it all the way from my parking spot. It was what I didn't bring that was the big deal. No saw and no water bottle. I'm glad it was only 11 holes.
Here we cant dig more than 20" deep with a shovel because clay is super hard at that point
 

sandhill larry

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Here we cant dig more than 20" deep with a shovel because clay is super hard at that point
I was happy to see a little trace of clay in the dirt. I see mostly sand, so anything with color is a plus. The native dirt looked pretty good. And there was no older oaks, so not too many bad roots. It still would have been nice to have my folding saw for the few roots I did encounter.
 

sandhill larry

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I put two more seeds each of Raisin de Gorille and Fromage D'ane into soil Sunday and stuck them in the solar subterranean germination chamber. Haven't checked them since. Will move them in with the others soon. Nice and warm inside the box with the lights.
 

sandhill larry

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Peachy's lookin' pretty!
Thanks. It is amazing what a few CFL's will do. It will be good to compare these with the ones that went right into flower with natural light. And even with them, the two older ones are much bigger than the younger ones. Some of those might not make a half ounce.

These Peaches were throwaways from my seed tests. One night at the camp I was going through strains, and this was from a very early cutting that had so many white seeds mixed in with them that I just tossed a handful into a pot. Had about thirty five sprouts and I didn't have dirt or pots ready so I put them in a hole with the potting soil I had. Animals rooted around in the hole, so I stuck twenty odd in coffee cups. Only one of these died, and it had a broken stem, so I should have culled it anyway. All the ones left in the hole got grasshoppered a couple days after I took these. So whatever we make off the Peach will be extra.

My biggest concern right now is how soft they are getting with the warm temps. We tend to get our coldest weather in January, when they will be going out. The last week we are going to have to cool it way down.
 

sandhill larry

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Here is a side by side shot showing the age difference. {my damn laptop had hid one picture. I had taken five, but only four showed up. I could see the fifth one when I was loading pictures, but not on my Photo viewer. I double checked before I shut down, and there it was. So here it is before I delete it}

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bassman999

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I was happy to see a little trace of clay in the dirt. I see mostly sand, so anything with color is a plus. The native dirt looked pretty good. And there was no older oaks, so not too many bad roots. It still would have been nice to have my folding saw for the few roots I did encounter.
Do you add something to the soil when you plant them.
 

WV: Jetson

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My biggest concern right now is how soft they are getting with the warm temps. We tend to get our coldest weather in January, when they will be going out. The last week we are going to have to cool it way down.
Harden 'em off slowly, they should be fine. Right? How cold is your coldest month?
 

sandhill larry

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Do you add something to the soil when you plant them.
I added two gallons of soil mix when I dug the holes. 1 gallon each of what I call the 1st True Kitty Litter mix, and Adult Tomato. My mixes are 40 gallons, or eight 5 gallon buckets. I don;t have the notes in front of me, but I would guess it was something like this.

1 bucket of Mushroom Mulch Compost
1 bucket of Cotton Compost
1 bucket of Cow Manure Compost
1 bucket of Chicken Manure Compost
2 buckets of Peat Moss
1 bucket of Metro Mix Potting Soil
1 bucket of Kitty Litter
Also has a certain amount of perlite, vermiculite, lime, Epson Salts, coffee grounds, 4 kinds of organic and 5 kinds of non organic plant food, including time release. But this mix is from the summer, so most of the time release may have already released. But I had two or three bags of the organic stuff that the bags had gotten torn by some animal, so I dumped all that in there too. It should be pretty hot.

The Adult Tomato is more Mushroom Mulch and Peat Moss, but similar.

I may add more when I transplant. But some of them are going into a wet area that has really black soil, so I'm not going to do much there except perlite.
 

sandhill larry

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I have a friend who works where oil dry {Kitty Litter} is made. He is able to bring me a broken bag all along. I add it to the mix when I have it. Too heavy to add much.
 

bassman999

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I added two gallons of soil mix when I dug the holes. 1 gallon each of what I call the 1st True Kitty Litter mix, and Adult Tomato. My mixes are 40 gallons, or eight 5 gallon buckets. I don;t have the notes in front of me, but I would guess it was something like this.

1 bucket of Mushroom Mulch Compost
1 bucket of Cotton Compost
1 bucket of Cow Manure Compost
1 bucket of Chicken Manure Compost
2 buckets of Peat Moss
1 bucket of Metro Mix Potting Soil
1 bucket of Kitty Litter
Also has a certain amount of perlite, vermiculite, lime, Epson Salts, coffee grounds, 4 kinds of organic and 5 kinds of non organic plant food, including time release. But this mix is from the summer, so most of the time release may have already released. But I had two or three bags of the organic stuff that the bags had gotten torn by some animal, so I dumped all that in there too. It should be pretty hot.

The Adult Tomato is more Mushroom Mulch and Peat Moss, but similar.

I may add more when I transplant. But some of them are going into a wet area that has really black soil, so I'm not going to do much there except perlite.
Kitty litter?
 
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