UncleBuck
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seriously though, how fucking stupid are you?
IT’S COMING: SESSIONS ORDERS REVIEW OF LEGAL POT POLICIES
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Observe & Report
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You appear to be labouring under the misapprehension that you have any clue what the law is. I would suggest reading Gonzales v. Raich.
Only the US Congress can end prohibition.
Tell us about the 10th I'm not familiar..
dandyrandy
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I love the legal opinions. With a court stacked you lose. Nixon is a pussy compared to sessions. Sessions hates it because he's a god fearing redneck. Nixon hated the hippies. I was there.
Sounds like selective states rights to me..either they have them or they don't.
tangerinegreen555
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SneekyNinja
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"Hillary would have been worse"...
Yeah, sure thing.
Yeah, sure thing.
DiogenesTheWiser
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Idk why so many people believe the 10th Amendment applies to weed legalization. Until the Congress re-schedules marijuana, the 10th Amendment does not apply because the Constitution specifically states it has authority over state laws.
"(Article VI, Clause 2) establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land."
"(Article VI, Clause 2) establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land."
JaJaJaJa
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And I would bet $50 you're wrong. I'll post a SS of sending you the money via paypal if you're right about this. The Republicans aren't gonna completely shoot their 2018 election chances to hell by going after legal weed. They have nothing to gain from it, and everything to lose in the Arena of Public Opinion.
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DiogenesTheWiser
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A large number of Trumpians believe they'll shoot their re-election chances to hell if they don't go after legal weed. Part of Trump's coalition are criminalization proponents, all mobbed up with CCA.
SneekyNinja
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Marijuana's approval rating is nearly double Trump's...
How about we fucking ban Trump?
How about we fucking ban Trump?
JaJaJaJa
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Honestly it's not even in the top 10 things most Trumpsters are concerned with. I go to various conservative minded gun forums, and only a small minority of zealots really care about stopping legal weed. Most think it would be stupid for Trump to crack down on, and it would be a waste of resources.
DiogenesTheWiser
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They aren't calling the shots. Big Pharma, CCA, Sessions, and America's brewing companies are. And we all know Republicans love money (not saying the Democrats don't). But this is what you get when a corporatist regime takes over and puts Jeff Sessions in position as the national cop.
It doesn't matter what ordinary republicans want. It does matter what huge corporate interests want.
JaJaJaJa
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Well surely the leaders must realize that public support simply isn't there for a crackdown. Look at the numbers. Something like 60% of the public want legalization, with another 15% or so in favor of medical mj. The people in our govt might be corrupt, but they aren't stupid. They must realize what a crackdown would do to their reelection chances in 2018 and 2020.
DiogenesTheWiser
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JaJa,
I'd bet the leadership is banking on that 60% being stoned and too unconcerned and apathetic to do anything about it. I hear there's still a resistance to legalization in the legalized states, and in the states that just legalized but haven't developed a sales system yet.
I'd bet the leadership is banking on that 60% being stoned and too unconcerned and apathetic to do anything about it. I hear there's still a resistance to legalization in the legalized states, and in the states that just legalized but haven't developed a sales system yet.
DiogenesTheWiser
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I live in Louisiana, and it won't legalize or decriminalize anytime soon. In fact, I fear a break up of the entire country before Louisiana changes any of its ways of doing things. Still segregated down here. Still sucks down here.
Cops here are galvanized now that Trump is el presidente. They believe they have carte blanch to kick ass and take names. Once stats are released at the end of the year, I bet 2017 will show a spike in all drug arrests--and pot leads the bunch because it smells. On my daily commute, I see people going to jail on the side of the road every day (there's this speed trap on I-20). I bet most are taken in for small potatoes pot posession.
I knew that when Trump won, legalization was set back 30 years. With Sessions's position, I fear I'm correct. But it hasn't happened yet, and I hope a dispensary employee was correct back in January when he said "we'd fight Trump if he tries to shut this down."
Cops here are galvanized now that Trump is el presidente. They believe they have carte blanch to kick ass and take names. Once stats are released at the end of the year, I bet 2017 will show a spike in all drug arrests--and pot leads the bunch because it smells. On my daily commute, I see people going to jail on the side of the road every day (there's this speed trap on I-20). I bet most are taken in for small potatoes pot posession.
I knew that when Trump won, legalization was set back 30 years. With Sessions's position, I fear I'm correct. But it hasn't happened yet, and I hope a dispensary employee was correct back in January when he said "we'd fight Trump if he tries to shut this down."
JaJaJaJa
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I know the feeling of hoplessness. I live in Utardia where any hope of legalization or even MMJ is pretty much dead because the 80+ year old leaders of the LDS cult think it's demon weed or something. However I also recognize that the rest of the country isn't like this. There's plenty of hope and resistance from the more civilized and progressive parts of the nation.
sparkygeek
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As Dr. Grinspoon pointed out, alcohol prohibition ended 10 years after the first state legalized it... How the ending of alcohol prohibition played out is probably a good guide to how cannabis prohibition will end. I'm told there are still dry counties in Kentucky...
Dr. Who
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You seem to forget that it's still a sched. 1 drug! Federal law says it's illegal! That trumps states laws - no "pun" intended!
Medical and recreational is still illegal by federal law.......10th is moot!