New oxygen technology in RDWC DWC pot grows

[J Henry]

FREE INFORMATION FOR THE LAZY JOKERS THAT WON’T CLICK THEIR CLICKERS

I did a little more research for you lazy guys always whining. Now don’t get your panties in a knot, but I don’t sell oxygen gas, ozone gas CO2 gas or light bulbs, no O2 machines, ozone machines, water chillers or pot growing equipment of any kind, super nutrients (including the most vital nutrient O2) or illegal drugs or sex toys – I know this will break your hearts and disappoint you tremendously, but I’m not in the sales game at all.

Check this out. If you are scared of Ozone gas Growdik and probably few other guys are, just man up to your phobia, admit it and don’t waste any more your time with this stuff and quietly move on. Don’t need to hear another long winded explanation like Growdik if your scared of it.

High output portable ozone generator/negative ion generator.

Ozone 500-i SALE Only $69.95 and is heck of a deal. http://www.cleanwaterstore.com/OS002290.html#tab=tab1

A double bang for your buck boys with this technology… This replaces using H2O2 for disinfecting res water and supplementing the most vital nutrient – O2.

What do you think about this ozone technology fellows?

 

[Altered State]

Phobia my ass

How is ozone harmful?

The same properties that allow high concentrations of ozone to react with organic matter outside the body give it the ability to react with similar organic matter that makes up the body, and potentially cause harmful health consequences. When inhaled, ozone can damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts can cause chest pain, coughing, shortness of breath and throat irritation. Ozone may also worsen chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and compromise the ability of the body to fight respiratory infections. People vary widely in their susceptibility to ozone. Healthy people, as well as those with respiratory difficulty can experience breathing problems with exposure to ozone. Exercise during exposure to ozone causes a greater amount of ozone to be inhaled, and increases the risk of harmful respiratory effects. Recovery from the harmful effects can occur following short-term exposure to low levels of ozone, but health effects may become more damaging and recovery less certain at higher levels or from longer exposures (US EPA, 1996a, 1996b).

http://www.allergyclean.com/problems-with-ozone-generators-and-ionizers-that-produce-

I'll Pass on the ozone for aeration thanks

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[J Henry]

Before you get your panties tangled up in a knot in your ass there Buddy… there’s more to it. Read-up.

Practical Hydroponics and Greenhouses

Issue 36: Introduction to Ozone Generation

Issue 36
September/October – 1997
Story Title: Introduction to Ozone Generation
Author: Steven Carruthers http://www.hydroponics.com.au/issue-36-introduction-to-ozone-generation/

Ozone is a powerful disinfecting and oxidising agent, successfully used in thousands of water treatment applications. STEVEN CARRUTHERS reports on its use in hydroponics.

Environmental and Health Aspects
Because ozone has a very short half life in aqueous solutions, and its degradation predominantly results in either oxygen or oxygenated by-products, waters treated with ozone will be less of an environmental hazard than the water left untreated or treated with halogens or related compounds, such as chlorine. Ozone accelerates the natural oxidation process of both atmospheric and biological oxygen take up. Water treated with ozone can generally be recycled in the environment without fear of releasing toxic substances.

Although ozone in the gaseous form is both toxic and reactive, it represents no safety handling problems in properly designed operating systems. Unlike most other oxidants which are stored on site in bulk form, ozone is produced on site in low concentrations and immediately consumed. Consequently, any accidental leakage can be easily controlled, as evidenced by ozone’s long safety history in many applications around the world.

Breathing traces of ozone in air for a few minutes is of little public health concern. Even though throat and lung irritation plus oedema have been observed after extreme exposures to ozone, it is important to recognise that during more than 100 years of commercial use, no deaths related to ozone exposure have ever been reported.

Smells fresh, like minutes a spring lightning storm in the mountains… wonder what the O3 concentration is to smell it outside after the lightning storm?

 

[Whats Saponin]

Enjoy

 

[Logan Burke]

It's not harmful until it reaches a certian (high) concentration...don't need research to know that. And that guy up there sounds like he is reviewing your product, just labeled for a different purpose?...If it is the same concept, it sterilizes water...that's bad for the root zone, you want good bennies...but would work great in my fish tank. It also shows that he thinks it is not a good option for his aquariums...the same conclusion all of us here have come to for our hydro systems. And if you did want one, the video makes it appear that DIY would be wayyy cheaper than buying a product such as the one in your original post.

 

[Whats Saponin]

I have no affiliation with any products, I just found it amusing that this guy built a unit for $8 dollars that does the same exact thing.

 

[Logan Burke]

Yeah it's a testament to the greed of some people...*cough*...I've yet to see literally not one grower, not a single one, that has actually used one of these (with pictures) and successfully grown cannabis via DWC. I've read posts claiming they have...on a seperate thread advertising the exact same thing, just with much fewer responses. I think it is actually another account(s) Jhenry has made. But that's just opinion.

 

[ALong14U]

Pure bullshit.
Just make sure not even a single light beam goes through the pot in your bubbler, specially through the net pot.
Wrap your bubbler and lid with a foil/bubble insulation, even if it's black.
Spray a bit of Trichoderma over your roots twice a week, if you can add some Mycorrhizae and Azospirillum it'd be a great add-on for your plants.
NEVER EVER USE H2O2 IN YOUR WATER CONTAINER.

Never had a chiller, frequently hit 80ºF, never had any fungus...

And that's it; try it out before coming back with some BS internet stories.

I know this post is old but liked what you said. Only thing I would add is keeping your ph in good range and checking it often will aid in the root system being strong enough to not get infected with fungus. Honestly in veg I have left my res for over a month just checking ph. The water turned to green algea and ppms went to somewhere around 900 and my roots never got fungus or root rot. I also do not use r.o. water. I use my tap water that must have chlorine in it and I have never had any issues. Even as you said temps being around 80. I try and keep my ph at 5.8 but as we know it likes to float as high as 6.3 sometimes. I monitor ph 2x a day. Like your post here.

 

[Whats Saponin]

To be honest I almost purchased one. Review searching lead me here and now I feel like a ceramic diffuser would suffice. But I still kind of want to do a side by side just to test it for myself. Just wish it wasn't so damn expensive.

 

[Logan Burke]

If you feel like dishing out the cash or making your own, please let me know, I'd love to see a side by side as no one else has been able to produce one.....or even just one as is...

I know this post is old but liked what you said. Only thing I would add is keeping your ph in good range and checking it often will aid in the root system being strong enough to not get infected with fungus. Honestly in veg I have left my res for over a month just checking ph. The water turned to green algea and ppms went to somewhere around 900 and my roots never got fungus or root rot. I also do not use r.o. water. I use my tap water that must have chlorine in it and I have never had any issues. Even as you said temps being around 80. I try and keep my ph at 5.8 but as we know it likes to float as high as 6.3 sometimes. I monitor ph 2x a day. Like your post here.

What are you referring to?...Using the advertised product, and following these procedures is what you do for your grow?

 

[Logan Burke]

I agree, no h202, run bennies, but this is about the advertised product/electrolysis not being nearly as effective at aerating your nutrient solution in hydroponics as well as just about any other method (Venturi, flooming, airstones, undercurrent), DWC/RDWC in particular.

 

[Logan Burke]

Before you get your panties tangled up in a knot in your ass there Buddy… there’s more to it. Read-up.

Practical Hydroponics and Greenhouses

Issue 36: Introduction to Ozone Generation

Issue 36
September/October – 1997
Story Title: Introduction to Ozone Generation
Author: Steven Carruthers http://www.hydroponics.com.au/issue-36-introduction-to-ozone-generation/

Ozone is a powerful disinfecting and oxidising agent, successfully used in thousands of water treatment applications. STEVEN CARRUTHERS reports on its use in hydroponics.

Environmental and Health Aspects
Because ozone has a very short half life in aqueous solutions, and its degradation predominantly results in either oxygen or oxygenated by-products, waters treated with ozone will be less of an environmental hazard than the water left untreated or treated with halogens or related compounds, such as chlorine. Ozone accelerates the natural oxidation process of both atmospheric and biological oxygen take up. Water treated with ozone can generally be recycled in the environment without fear of releasing toxic substances.

Although ozone in the gaseous form is both toxic and reactive, it represents no safety handling problems in properly designed operating systems. Unlike most other oxidants which are stored on site in bulk form, ozone is produced on site in low concentrations and immediately consumed. Consequently, any accidental leakage can be easily controlled, as evidenced by ozone’s long safety history in many applications around the world.

Breathing traces of ozone in air for a few minutes is of little public health concern. Even though throat and lung irritation plus oedema have been observed after extreme exposures to ozone, it is important to recognise that during more than 100 years of commercial use, no deaths related to ozone exposure have ever been reported.

Smells fresh, like minutes a spring lightning storm in the mountains… wonder what the O3 concentration is to smell it outside after the lightning storm?

Are you a grower?

 

[ALong14U]

Are you a grower?

Logan I do not use this product. Just throwing in my 2 cents. I don't believe there is a need for an overly priced product that can not out preform a 350$ chiller. It is true colder water holds more oxygen but neither is needed if you know your system and your plants. Not aiming comments at anyone just talking.

 

[Altered State]

Why would you say that when your the one acting irrational ?

Before you get your panties tangled up in a knot in your ass there Buddy… there’s more to it. Read-up.

Smells fresh, like minutes a spring lightning storm in the mountains… wonder what the O3 concentration is to smell it outside after the lightning storm?

 

[J Henry]

It's not harmful until it reaches a certian (high) concentration...don't need research to know that. And that guy up there sounds like he is reviewing your product, just labeled for a different purpose?...If it is the same concept, it sterilizes water...that's bad for the root zone, you want good bennies...but would work great in my fish tank. It also shows that he thinks it is not a good option for his aquariums...the same conclusion all of us here have come to for our hydro systems. And if you did want one, the video makes it appear that DIY would be wayyy cheaper than buying a product such as the one in your original post.

 

[J Henry]

Hey, hey, look who’s back…. Logan’s back! I knew he only “shuck’in and jiv’in” when he said he was “outa-here” the other day. Logan lurks and he’s not about to leave. Nothing wrong with lurker’s. Glad you have reconsidered and your back now, your fun.

I bet Logan is in his late 20’s early 30’s, doesn’t work or have a job and his Mama probably gives him FREE room and board at her place.

Why would you say that when your the one acting irrational ?

 

[J Henry]

Why would you say that when your the one acting irrational ?

Glad to see you are feeling better now and have settled down.

 

[J Henry]

Enjoy

Don't know about the disinfection ability but this $8 homemade rig is really a great deal for cash restricted hobby growers.
Electrolysis of water generates pure elemental oxygen (pure 100% O2 gas) never to be confused with environmental air.
Not many, maybe 1 out of every 1000 hobby growers will "fail to insure minimal safe oxygen saturation in their DWC res water" regardless of the water temperature.
These less fortunate growers really do have serious problems with rhizomes dying, root rot, fungal infestations and crop failure should be interested, but probably not. These less fortunate growers are easy to spot, they are the ones that practice "crisis intervention." this group is fixated with :"the cure only" teas, chlorine, H2O2 and the race to kill fungi and all the other microbes living in the res water.

Even if the inventor actually knows nothing about his invention, the hallmark of his homemade electrolysis generator is cheap, cheap, cheap --- $8.00. This rig is priced tight for any hobbyist limited by cash.
This is way cheaper than the commercial electrolysis generators like, well, you know, the commercial brand rigs where this thread started.

 

[WeedFreak78]

Electrolysis of water generates pure elemental oxygen (pure 100% O2 gas) never to be confused with environmental air.

Listen up you fucking piece of shit, you're either a fucking moron, a troll, or, I'm guessing, both . You're promoting a product that creates O2 and H. You refuse to address the H byproduct. These are the same emitters used in hydrogen supplementation systems for internal combustion engines. Stop promoting a product that is inherently dangerous.

Here you want people to do their own research.. fucking read this.

"Electrolysis of water is the decomposition of water into oxygen and hydrogen gas due to an electric current being passed through the water. The reaction has a standard potential of −1.23 V, meaning it ideally requires a potential difference of 1.23 volts to split water."

Go suck start a shotgun, wash it down with some bleach.

 

[J Henry]

Now this squirrel is really having a bad hair day, can you tell... you need your potty mouth washed with lye soap and sown tight with braid sutures. And y also need to go to church this morning and act right.

And that's my personal opinion of you today Bud.