I'm voting for McCain....

medicineman

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Dude ... if you were half as creative and intelligent as cc ... you'd be a freakin' genius. bongsmilie

Vi
I aint no dude mr Hole. CC may be somewhat intelligent, But he listens to Limbaugh and Levine, that pretty much dumbs him down as far as I'm concerned. If he'd put his intelligence to work for something worthwhile, I may consider him to be a positive for humanity, but believing all this hate rhetoric really makes him stupid. Those hate mongers are 1 tick away from the KKK. BTW, I guess you are now a hate monger yourself, Eh? Has Palin invited you on a helicopter wolf hunt yet? ~LOL~Peace!
 

coconutbeach

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That was great. You can find it on You tube also. I'll post a link. No way for Mccain Palin. I was just in Wasilla twice last week and in Alaska for two weeks. They dont all like her but the ones that do dont all think she is president material. There is a 705 likelyhood Palin will be sworn in at least twice in mccain 1st four years. The story in AK is GOP is trowing the term to get Jeb in 2012 and to chill out Palin oil policy.
 

Leilani Garden

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I aint no dude mr Hole. CC may be somewhat intelligent, But he listens to Limbaugh and Levine, that pretty much dumbs him down as far as I'm concerned. If he'd put his intelligence to work for something worthwhile, I may consider him to be a positive for humanity, but believing all this hate rhetoric really makes him stupid. Those hate mongers are 1 tick away from the KKK. BTW, I guess you are now a hate monger yourself, Eh? Has Palin invited you on a helicopter wolf hunt yet? ~LOL~Peace!
I told myself I was not even going to read this thread anymore because it's all over the place, but it also seems like one can just pick up and begin anew; so much for my staying away.

Re CCDiane being a genius? At WHAT, exactly? Posting other people's opinions, editorials, creative copy/pasting, and using vile insults . . . all under the delusion that s/he is some sort of enlightening pedant? Please. Those posts contribute nothing, not one gd thing, to intelligent discussion of some extremely important issues that will affect all of us.

I don't begrudge anyone watching/listening to Limbaugh, Fox News, any of that--as long as they are going to educate themselves by enacting a FAIRNESS ACT (which Reagan got rid of back in '87, btw) on themselves and hearing out the other side. Our media are NOT liberal; that notion is an example of very well excecuted, tried and true public relations campaigns. So . . . if anyone's going to listen to Limbaugh, for god's sake, at least listen to the other side. Ya just never know, do you? You might actually learn something.

When I saw Farenheit 911, I immediately watched the rebuttal (cannot recall the name of it right now). I wanted to know: what's the other side have to say about this? I do recall Ann Coulter (and I've read a few of her books too) saying that it would have done no good for our president to have left that first grade classroom because there was nothing he could do at the time anyway. What a bunch of horse shit that excuse was. Then again, while Moore was definitely on to a few things--important things--he also went a bit too far, at least according to the rebuttal that I watched. The state trooper from Oregon who was in Moore's film was interviewed on the rebuttal, and I do believe it would have behooved Moore to leave out the state trooper for the intents of his documentary. The inclusion of the trooper was certainly not the centerpiece of this film, and yes, I think Moore took creative liberty.

See? If you just EXPOSE yourself to what others with different opinions have to say, you might just learn something. Imagine that. How horrid, eh?

I also used to be one of those who was all for banning guns in the US. I know about how things are in Canada, and I know the stats on guns and homicides, accidents, suicides, in the US that involve guns. Nevertheless, a friend--a devoted Republican, and a gentleman--took me aside one day, and very gently explained to me that one of the first things that the Nazis did when they seized power was to strip the populace of firearms. Ding, ding, ding. That did it for me. Yes, I'd like to see some very strict laws enacted regarding guns (like people who just, uh, don't lock them up and their children get them and bad things happen?), but I will never, ever entertain any notions of stripping the citizens of the US of guns. I support the second amendment--because I listened to the OTHER SIDE.

Re that second amendment and Obama? Has anyone here heard what Biden had to say? I do'nt have the link in front of me (and it may have been discussed previously on this thread--I have not kept up with this). Nevertheless, what Biden said was: Obama is NOT taking my guns away from ME. Forget it.

So everyone rest easy. No one running for president is about to infringe on the second amendment.

Now, that fourth amendment???

ANyway, listening to both sides is a smart thing to do. Try it some time. And that goes for you, DDDiane, whether you are a man or a woman.
 

ViRedd

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If you just EXPOSE yourself to what others with different opinions have to say, you might just learn something. Imagine that. How horrid,

ANyway, listening to both sides is a smart thing to do. Try it some time. And that goes for you, DDDiane, whether you are a man or a woman.
I've honestly tried listening to the other side. I tape Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Larry King, Dave Letterman ... etc.. Honestly, if you don't think there is a left-wing bias in our media, well ... you haven't been watching. Now that the campaign is will under way, and getting close to the elections, theses guys are absolutely vicious.

And on the "Fairness Doctrine:" Would you also be in favor of evening out the professorships in our universities? You know ... for every left-wingnut professor, we'll balance that with a right-wingnut professor?

On the taping ... I even taped "The View" when O'Bama was a guest and again when McCain was a guest. The difference was so obvious it was sickening.

Vi
 

Inneedofbuds

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I've honestly tried listening to the other side. I tape Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Larry King ... etc.. Honestly, if you don't think there is a left-wing bias in our media, well ... you haven't been watching. Now that the campaign is will under way, and getting close to the elections, theses guys are absolutely vicious.

And on the "Fairness Doctrine:" Would you also be in favor of evening out the professorships in our universities? You know ... for every left-wingnut professor, we'll balance that with a right-wingnut professor?

Vi
Maher, Olbermann and Matthews = Hannity, Colmes and Limbaugh

Those aren't media, they are entertainment.
 

ViRedd

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Maher, Olbermann and Matthews = Hannity, Colmes and Limbaugh

Those aren't media, they are entertainment.
Really? Tell that to the Left-Wing zealots who are so bothered by conservative talk radio, that they want to revive the Fairness Doctrine in order to jam their ideology down our throats when no one wants to listen to it. They can't survive in a free market environment (Air America), so they want taxpayers to subsidize them ala PBS.

Would you say that NBC, the New York Times and Newsweek is "media?" Of course they are ... and they are so one sided they look/sound like the prosecution arm of the destroy Palin movement and the promotion arm of the O'Bama campaign.

Fox News Channel has the largest audience ... and its made up of 33% Democrats. Must be something good going on there.

Vi
 

Inneedofbuds

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Really? Tell that to the Left-Wing zealots who are so bothered by conservative talk radio, that they want to revive the Fairness Doctrine in order to jam their ideology down our throats when no one wants to listen to it. They can't survive in a free market environment (Air America), so they want taxpayers to subsidize them ala PBS.

Would you say that NBC, the New York Times and Newsweek is "media?" Of course they are ... and they are so one sided they look/sound like the prosecution arm of the destroy Palin movement and the promotion arm of the O'Bama campaign.

Fox News Channel has the largest audience ... and its made up of 33% Democrats. Must be something good going on there.

Vi
i'd say there's an equal amount of dumbasses on both sides. There's not a single bit of my information that comes from television. Television is entertainment. If your opinion comes from the voices of others, it's not your opinion.
 

ViRedd

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i'd say there's an equal amount of dumbasses on both sides. There's not a single bit of my information that comes from television. Television is entertainment. If your opinion comes from the voices of others, it's not your opinion.
Most of my political opinions were formed over the past 60 years. I went to public schools before they became "Progressive" indoctrination centers .... and I read.

Vi
 

TheBrutalTruth

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Most of my political opinions were formed over the past 60 years. I went to public schools before they became "Progressive" indoctrination centers .... and I read.

Vi
:: snickers :: dangerous thing that reading, it lets you form your own views, and most of the time those views will lead to the conclusion that this country is so far to the left (centralized control of everything) that it is no longer correct to call it a Republic.

It more resembles an Oligarchy, or the sickening fall of the Roman Empire where it was the soldiers that chose the Emperors. Unfortunately in our case it is the government employee and the people on the government's tit that are trying to choose the Senators and the President.

I personally think that this is a massive conflict of interest, as any one that is employed by the government is not going to vote themselves out of a job, or allow a politician to institute any kind of competitive bidding for the position.

Nor is some one on the government tit going to vote to cut themselves off.

The best example I can think of is a drug addict, or maybe some one that is financially irresponsible. Sure, you might lend them money once, maybe twice, but after that you are going to tell them that they need to take personal responsibility for their actions and solve their own problems instead of "borrowing" your money.

You aren't going to ask their opinion about it either. We really need to do the same thing with the Democrats and force them to accept responsibility for their own actions, instead of making everyone else have to deal with their problems and mistakes.
 

Bongulator

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When it costs 700 billion dollars to keep it from collapsing from deregulation, that free market suddenly doesn't look all that free. If it's really a free market, we'll let it crash and burn, even if that means no more credit for anybody for any reason for five years or so. (Well, people with high incomes and sterling credit could still get loans -- but then again, they're probably the ones who need loans the least.) Personally, I could live with that. If you want it now, you pay for it now. Houses, cars, business expansion, everything. But I'm guessing most people won't want to have to pay cash upfront for everything.
 
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