I aint no dude mr Hole. CC may be somewhat intelligent, But he listens to Limbaugh and Levine, that pretty much dumbs him down as far as I'm concerned. If he'd put his intelligence to work for something worthwhile, I may consider him to be a positive for humanity, but believing all this hate rhetoric really makes him stupid. Those hate mongers are 1 tick away from the KKK. BTW, I guess you are now a hate monger yourself, Eh? Has Palin invited you on a helicopter wolf hunt yet? ~LOL~Peace!
I told myself I was not even going to read this thread anymore because it's all over the place, but it also seems like one can just pick up and begin anew; so much for my staying away.
Re CCDiane being a genius? At WHAT, exactly? Posting other people's opinions, editorials, creative copy/pasting, and using vile insults . . . all under the delusion that s/he is some sort of enlightening pedant? Please. Those posts contribute nothing, not one gd thing, to intelligent discussion of some extremely important issues that will affect all of us.
I don't begrudge anyone watching/listening to Limbaugh, Fox News, any of that--as long as they are going to educate themselves by enacting a FAIRNESS ACT (which Reagan got rid of back in '87, btw) on themselves and hearing out the other side. Our media are NOT liberal; that notion is an example of very well excecuted, tried and true public relations campaigns. So . . . if anyone's going to listen to Limbaugh, for god's sake, at least listen to the other side. Ya just never know, do you? You might actually learn something.
When I saw Farenheit 911, I immediately watched the rebuttal (cannot recall the name of it right now). I wanted to know: what's the other side have to say about this? I do recall Ann Coulter (and I've read a few of her books too) saying that it would have done no good for our president to have left that first grade classroom because there was nothing he could do at the time anyway. What a bunch of horse shit that excuse was. Then again, while Moore was definitely on to a few things--important things--he also went a bit too far, at least according to the rebuttal that I watched. The state trooper from Oregon who was in Moore's film was interviewed on the rebuttal, and I do believe it would have behooved Moore to leave out the state trooper for the intents of his documentary. The inclusion of the trooper was certainly not the centerpiece of this film, and yes, I think Moore took creative liberty.
See? If you just EXPOSE yourself to what others with different opinions have to say, you might just learn something. Imagine that. How horrid, eh?
I also used to be one of those who was all for banning guns in the US. I know about how things are in Canada, and I know the stats on guns and homicides, accidents, suicides, in the US that involve guns. Nevertheless, a friend--a devoted Republican, and a
gentleman--took me aside one day, and very gently explained to me that one of the first things that the Nazis did when they seized power was to strip the populace of firearms. Ding, ding, ding. That did it for me. Yes, I'd like to see some very strict laws enacted regarding guns (like people who just, uh, don't lock them up and their children get them and bad things happen?), but I will never, ever entertain any notions of stripping the citizens of the US of guns. I support the second amendment--because I listened to the OTHER SIDE.
Re that second amendment and Obama? Has anyone here heard what Biden had to say? I do'nt have the link in front of me (and it may have been discussed previously on this thread--I have not kept up with this). Nevertheless, what Biden said was: Obama is NOT taking my guns away from ME. Forget it.
So everyone rest easy. No one running for president is about to infringe on the second amendment.
Now, that fourth amendment???
ANyway, listening to both sides is a smart thing to do. Try it some time. And that goes for you, DDDiane, whether you are a man or a woman.