Official 'FUCK THE POLICE' Thread. (Examples of Police Brutality)

[curious2garden]

Hopefully. However the Lt should as well: there is another vid of he, Lt and a Uni cop commiserating after the incident, still half heartedly trying to come up with a plan to get the blood, and Payne(moonlights as an ambulance driver) saying he'll just take transients/indigents to the UNi hospital and take "good" and paying patients to other hospitals. The Uni cop was a weasel and the Lt. still thought they were in the right.

Yes I believe in my second or third post on this I stated the Lieutenant should be on administrative leave pending charges as well. As for University security they should be acted on for non support of University policy.

 

[ttystikk]

I'd be willing to bet he will be fired and convicted of something. Since he acted against policy his department and the hospital signed regarding blood draws his union will not finance his defense. Saying his lieutenant ordered him shouldn't work as a defense either as you do not follow out of policy (illegal), orders. I think this guy is going down.

I surely do hope you are right and that his bad behavior and subsequent consequences serve as very clear warnings to police everywhere that the abuse of their power will not go unpunished anymore.

 

[ttystikk]

Yes I believe in my second or third post on this I stated the Lieutenant should be on administrative leave pending charges as well. As for University security they should be acted on for non support of University policy.

The officer is on leave now and the firestorm of public outrage is spreading across the country.

Apparently arresting an on duty nurse is worse than shooting innocent black men in the back or in their cars while cooperating. That realization makes me sick and embarrassed to be an American.

 

[pabloesqobar]

Apparently arresting an on duty nurse is worse than shooting innocent black men in the back or in their cars while cooperating. That realization makes me sick and embarrassed to be an American.

Upon what do you base that assertion? Who, anywhere, suggests that this is worse than shooting innocent citizens?You were the one who hopes her being detained 20 minutes or so gets her at least $1 million of taxpayer dollars. She deserves a monetary settlement. At least 1 million? No way. If so, sign me up please.

And I don't see how an isolated incident of police misconduct, from a poorly trained officer, in a poorly trained department, makes you "sick and embarrassed to be an American". I suspect you already had that feeling.

 

[ttystikk]

Upon what do you base that assertion? Who, anywhere, suggests that this is worse than shooting innocent citizens?You were the one who hopes her being detained 20 minutes or so gets her at least $1 million of taxpayer dollars. She deserves a monetary settlement. At least 1 million? No way. If so, sign me up please.

And I don't see how an isolated incident of police misconduct, from a poorly trained officer, in a poorly trained department, makes you "sick and embarrassed to be an American". I suspect you already had that feeling.

You misunderstand me.

The point I'm making is that cops who shoot unarmed black men in the back face fewer consequences and less public condensation than Officer Payne did when he unlawfully arrested that nurse.

And THAT'S what I find unacceptable.

Do y'all get it now?

 

[Singlemalt]

It helped a great deal that Payne's debacle was filmed(quite clearly and with excellent audio) by several sources including the cops' own body cams. There was no wiggle room here, no chance for obfuscation, no "he said, she said". I've never seen any other cop encounter that was filmed in such detail.

 

[ttystikk]

It helped a great deal that Payne's debacle was filmed(quite clearly and with excellent audio) by several sources including the cops' own body cams. There was no wiggle room here, no chance for obfuscation, no "he said, she said". I've never seen any other cop encounter that was filmed in such detail.

In the age of the smartphone we can expect more of this, not less.

 

[pabloesqobar]

You misunderstand me.

The point I'm making is that cops who shoot unarmed black men in the back face fewer consequences and less public condensation than Officer Payne did when he unlawfully arrested that nurse.

And THAT'S what I find unacceptable.

Do y'all get it now?

I didn't misunderstand your words, as they were written.

Again, please provide your basis, with objective facts, to support your assertion that "cops who shoot unarmed black men in the back face fewer consequences and less public condensation (condemnation, I know that was an inadvertent typo) than Officer Payne did when he unlawfully arrested that nurse."

 

[Singlemalt]

In the age of the smartphone we can expect more of this, not less.

We've had smart phones for a number of years; so why haven't we seen this before? The reason this was preserved because Payne wasn't after the nurse initially, wasn't a crime scene and it was in a public place; the cops could not control the scene and subsequent evidence, that's why.

Edit: Before you further mix apples and oranges: the public response would be identical if the nurse was black

 

[ttystikk]

I didn't misunderstand your words, as they were written.

Again, please provide your basis, with objective facts, to support your assertion that "cops who shoot unarmed black men in the back face fewer consequences and less public condensation (condemnation, I know that was an inadvertent typo) than Officer Payne did when he unlawfully arrested that nurse."

Have a look at the record, friend. The cop who shot the black man in the back-caught on tape- was acquitted of the killing, even though he was sign planting a weapon next to the body.

Then there was the case of Sam Dubose.

Then there was the case of Philando Castile.

You're welcome to draw your own conclusions.

Personally, I think the fact that any of those cops wasn't tried for murder is despicable.

Detective Payne has already suffered as much consequence as any of those officers, just by being suspended with pay.

 

[ttystikk]

We've had smart phones for a number of years; so why haven't we seen this before? The reason this was preserved because Payne wasn't after the nurse initially, wasn't a crime scene and it was in a public place; the cops could not control the scene and subsequent evidence, that's why.

Edit: Before you further mix apples and oranges: the public response would be identical if the nurse was black

Are you sure about that?

 

[pabloesqobar]

Have a look at the record, friend. The cop who shot the black man in the back-caught on tape- was acquitted of the killing, even though he was sign planting a weapon next to the body.

Then there was the case of Sam Dubose.

Then there was the case of Philando Castile.

You're welcome to draw your own conclusions.

Personally, I think the fact that any of those cops want tried for murder is despicable.

Detective Payne has already suffered as much consequence as any of those officers, just by being suspended with pay.

Ok.

 

[Singlemalt]

Are you sure about that?

Yep, I am. Payne picked the wrong person to bully. Nurses are and have been the most respected and trusted profession. Then to assault, rough up, cuff a charge nurse in a burn ward while on duty and only charged with obstruction is the dumbest thing a cop could do.

 

[ttystikk]

Yep, I am. Payne picked the wrong person to bully. Nurses are and have been the most respected and trusted profession. Then to assault, rough up, cuff a charge nurse in a burn ward while on duty and only charged with obstruction is the dumbest thing a cop could do.

But would this story have gotten national attention if the nurse was black?

I would certainly HOPE so, but I'd be lying if I didn't have my doubts.

My point has nothing at all to do with Office Payne. No matter who he did that to, he's still a miserable piece of shit who needs to spend a few months in jail.

 

[Singlemalt]

I think Payne should be fired, and sent to prison for many years. He is too stupid and dangerous to be allowed to live free. That any jurisdiction would have such a man empowered with a badge and gun is criminal. Payne is a serious danger to anyone of any race at anytime.

 

[Singlemalt]

Payne's house of cards is crashing. He just got fired from his EMT job, which he has had since 1983.
http://kxan.com/2017/09/05/police-officer-who-arrested-utah-nurse-fired-from-medic-job/

 

[Singlemalt]

 

[ttystikk]

Payne's house of cards is crashing. He just got fired from his EMT job, which he has had since 1983.
http://kxan.com/2017/09/05/police-officer-who-arrested-utah-nurse-fired-from-medic-job/

Good.

His example must be unforgettable to every other fuckhead cop who thinks he can overstep his bounds and the rights of other citizens at will.

I'm waiting to hear about Ms Wubbels' payday. If it's a dime less than 7 figures it will be a grave Injustice.

 

[Singlemalt]

She hasn't sued or made a claim yet. She's holding that in reserve if specified changes in policy don't satisfy her

 

[ttystikk]

She hasn't sued or made a claim yet. She's holding that in reserve if specified changes in policy don't satisfy her

She has plenty of time. I'm sure a fat check representing an early retirement and the chance to pursue one's dreams will be powerful incentive.

Besides, how else to hold the police department accountable? Talk is cheap.