Smart meters a concern??

Bugeye

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http://www.arrl.org/grow-light-rfi

You can skim down to is it a grow light section.
Good article. Ham operators are easy to spot, they will have abnormally large antennas of all configurations all over the place. Might as well start adding filters to your ballasts before they come knocking. If a utility transformer is putting off rfi, one call to the FCC and you'll see a new transformer going in pronto. Hams have some power!
 

NugHeuser

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As long as your meter socket is located on the outside, they literally won't need to come inside. Some older houses used to have meter sockets in the basement.
Well hopefully mine is outside or they've already changed it or hopefully they're not going to change it anytime soon. It is an older house(1905) and there ain't no hiding what's in that room either lol
 

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NugHeuser

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Ok so somehow I managed to get my reply stuck in the "quote" part lmao but my above reply had a few sentences, it just appears as part of Ares2389 quote
 

NugHeuser

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Good article. Ham operators are easy to spot, they will have abnormally large antennas of all configurations all over the place. Might as well start adding filters to your ballasts before they come knocking. If a utility transformer is putting off rfi, one call to the FCC and you'll see a new transformer going in pronto. Hams have some power!
As far as RF goes, I can pick up 2 am stations one wall away from my grow room and only a little bit of one station inside the room. Do you think that's anything to worry about?
 

Cx2H

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As far as RF goes, I can pick up 2 am stations one wall away from my grow room and only a little bit of one station inside the room. Do you think that's anything to worry about?
Do you have cable TV? If so any static in the TV?
 

Cx2H

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I have satellite I think technically. Direct tv if you've ever heard of it. No static that I've noticed
No static on TV and radio gets Am reception. I think k your RFI foot print is small. Mine was 4 blocks square and affected hundreds of customers... Cable people were pissed and came back and trapped my line because I wouldn't let them in.
 

Bugeye

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As far as RF goes, I can pick up 2 am stations one wall away from my grow room and only a little bit of one station inside the room. Do you think that's anything to worry about?
Only if you got a ham operator next door.
 

Cx2H

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I'm sorry but what's ham?
Amateur radio operator code name ham

Amateur radio (also called ham radio) describes the use of radio frequency spectrum for purposes of non-commercial exchange of messages, wireless ...
 

Ares2389

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Ok so somehow I managed to get my reply stuck in the "quote" part lmao but my above reply had a few sentences, it just appears as part of Ares2389 quote
I would take a walk around your property. Look for the meter socket/pedestal. You should see either overhead wires coming into your service drop or if you have underground service it just comes up from the ground into the socket. Either way it should be easy to spot if it's outside.

I wouldn't upload any pics of your meter area for obvious reasons. If you have trouble locating it just call your company and they should have record what side of the house the meter is on or where it's located.
 

NugHeuser

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Amateur radio operator code name ham

Amateur radio (also called ham radio) describes the use of radio frequency spectrum for purposes of non-commercial exchange of messages, wireless ...
So basically your saying landlines? If any of my neighbors have landlines it could screw with it?
 

Cx2H

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So basically your saying landlines? If any of my neighbors have landlines it could screw with it?
Yes it is a possibility but even your sat dish would be affected. You would get static and patterns. Phone signal would degrade some if it is across the band.

In my case it was affecting a catv service panel about 300 ft away and ingressed into the closed system that digital cable is now days, huge FCC no no to do. They could of rammed me for it but reasonable doubt in effect. Could of been a bad magnetron from a microwave or some sheet.
 

Cx2H

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Yes it is a possibility but even your sat dish would be affected. You would get static and patterns. Phone signal would degrade some if it is across the band.

In my case it was affecting a catv service panel about 300 ft away and ingressed into the closed system that digital cable is now days, huge FCC no no to do. They could of rammed me for it but reasonable doubt in effect. Could of been a bad magnetron from a microwave or some sheet.
And I had solistek 1st gen Matrix's a few of them. The RFI comes from the lamp side cord. Why some of the de sheet has the ballast attached with no lamp cord.

I went back to magnetics and new xtrasun Ballasts.
 

NugHeuser

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And I had solistek 1st gen Matrix's a few of them. The RFI comes from the lamp side cord. Why some of the de sheet has the ballast attached with no lamp cord.

I went back to magnetics and new xtrasun Ballasts.
Yeah I was just going to ask you what you were using next. I'm looking into one or two 630 watt de cmh from growers choice. They are advertised to have an rf block on them. Currently just using a vivosun 600w dimmable hps/mh and 2 blurples for veg on some seedlings. Those cmh, specifically GC with the 3000k de full spectrum red supplement bulbs seem sweet
 

Redoctober

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Anyone have an idea for a quick type of lock or diy enclosure I can put around the meter so that it's readable by the meter reader guy, but not accessible?
(Does the meter reader guy have to physically touch the meter when they come to take a reading e.g. to reset it for next month like a car odometer?)

I'm thinking of doing this as a preventative measure in case the power co rep comes round and decides to install a smart meter without my consent.
 

Ares2389

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Anyone have an idea for a quick type of lock or diy enclosure I can put around the meter so that it's readable by the meter reader guy, but not accessible?
(Does the meter reader guy have to physically touch the meter when they come to take a reading e.g. to reset it for next month like a car odometer?)

I'm thinking of doing this as a preventative measure in case the power co rep comes round and decides to install a smart meter without my consent.
The power company should have their own lock ring around the meter. You probably won't be able to put anything of yours on it. They usually keep it sealed with a plastic lock to see if meters have been tampered with.

They usually retro fit the old meters with a device that sends the signal to a meter reading truck once a month that drives by and pings it. Your meter is honestly probably already setup this way. The days of manual meter readings monthly are all but gone unless there's an issue and they need to send someone to confirm the readings.
 

rayuki

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As long as your meter socket is located on the outside, they literally won't need to come inside. Some older houses used to have meter sockets in the basement.



^ This is some of the best advice I've seen on here. I did a face palm after reading this. I've been so focused on getting my first grow dialed in that I haven't once thought about a loss of electricity. Especially with all the crazy weather going on these days.

Aside from hurricanes, any big enough storm can knock out power for 1+ days. There's other random stuff too construction workers hitting lines, vehicle vs pole, wildlife, etc.

People often take for granted what goes into making that light switch come on every time. It doesn't take much to disrupt that.
Just get a backup diesel or petrol generator then, include it in the price of your build for peace of mind. I mean even in a big power outage maybe a week tops you would be without power?
 
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