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Millionaire Donor Threatens Democratic Party: “If They Go Far Left, I’m Out”
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Fogdog
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Padawanbater2
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What do you suppose Cloobeck is referring to here;
Cloobeck - "I've talked to [Chuck] Schumer, I've talked to [Ron] Wyden, I've talked to [Nancy] Pelosi, and I said "If you use the term "Billionaires again, I'm done."
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Ruhle - "Then are you worried that the Democratic party is going too far to the left?"
Cloobeck - "So much so it drives me nuts! So much so, it would make me quit the party! And, I've made it very clear, I'll cut your money off! And others will do the same. We've had enough! We need a new brand!"
Why is he upset that Democrats use the term "Billionaires"?
Why is he threatening to "quit the party" if they go "too far to the left"?
travisw
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Back in April, Steve said:
"I am forever a Democrat," Mr. Cloobeck said. "I believe in Roe v. Wade, Planned Parenthood, civil rights and the other core principles and values of the Democratic Party.
Steven said that right before endorsing a fucking Republican for senator in his home state.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/stephen-j-cloobeck-announces-endorsement-of-reelection-of-dean-heller-to-us-senate-300446070.html
On November 7th, Cloobeck stepped up his criticism of the Republican Party, calling the GOP "bigoted" and "anti-Semitic." “They are very, unfortunately, bigoted, anti-Semitic and caustic,” he said on MSNBC. “And creating civil war.”
http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Wealthy-Dem-Stephen-Cloobeck-Blasts-Party-for-12338189.php
On November 8th, he withdrew his support for that Republican senator.
https://twitter.com/sjcloobeck?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
Sounds like the guy from Undercover Boss, just likes saying stupid shit and being on TV, and isn't actually going anywhere. I guess that wouldn't have been as provocative of a thread title though. Even if it is infinitely more accurate than the one you chose.
Padawanbater2
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You think Cloobeck is threatening to leave the Democratic party "if they go too far to the left" because he sounds like the guy from Undercover Boss and just likes saying stupid shit and being on TV"?
because it's something republicans are known for being.
Fogdog
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It's his right to leave the party just as it is yours if you don't agree with its policies. From elections results any rational person would be unconvinced that most of the country is thirsting for your liberal policies, so maybe he's giving good advice.
Padawanbater2
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Do you agree with Cloobecks advice?
Fogdog
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about what?
Padawanbater2
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About his opinion about Democratic party leaders saying the word "billionaires"?
Fogdog
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I think he was more complaining about Democratic leaders trashing bilkionaires than objecting to the word itself. Knowing you, you would do the same if you were in a similar situation.
Padawanbater2
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Democratic leaders trashing billionaires for what?
Fogdog
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I have no real interest here. You asked if I agreed with what he said. I'm still trying to figure out what he said. It wasn't as you said, that he was angry about Dem leaders using the word billiionaire, it was the negative context behind it. Don't you agree?
Padawanbater2
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Cloobeck said he (and other Democratic party donors) will cut off their funding if they don't stop talking about billionaires.
ginjawarrior
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i think he's refering to the part of the interwiew that you just cut out here ill bold it out for you
the interviewer framed the question it's clear he's answering the question asked
now are you expecting him to carry on funding a party that says "Down with the billionaires, we can't stand the rich!"??
shoulld he be buying them the pitch forks and petrol bombs ready for when they come to destroy him just because he is rich?
Fogdog
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I don't think he's objecting to them talking about billionaires, I think he's objecting to being criticized for being a billionaire. Not for what he does, but for what he is. Steve Jobs was a billionaire was Steve Jobs a bad person because he was a billionaire?
I don't know the object of your ire. Is he a bad man? Or is he bad just because he cut some large checks to fund some politician's campaigns? You do know that Republicans have access to people of enormous wealth and they are funding PACs, Super Pacs, and political campaigns, don't you?
I don't think legally contributing to Democrats is necessarily a bad thing in today's political situation. Ron Wyden, by the way, is a pretty good progressive Senator.
Unclebaldrick
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No, Steve Jobs was a bad person because he was an asshole.
Grandpapy
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Same in the UK but raising to 68 years of age.
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Just don't let the general population know.
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Same in the UK but raising to 68 years of age.
Aug 15, 2017 - The typical American leaves the workforce at age 63. Meanwhile, in China, the average retirement age is decidedly younger: 55.
China's looking better everyday. Come, invest make millions, billions!
Just don't let the general population know.
It's no longer a Soapbox but an extruded block of plastic that needs to have some heat applied for the poor man to be able to step up.