AR-15 Fake News by Uncle Ted

[UncleBuck]

No. I showed the history of the Armalight rifles.

no you didn't

 

[abalonehx]

 

[whitebb2727]

no you didn't

Actually I did. Keep your fingers in your ears and keep saying no, no, no while stomping your feet.

You can't dispute that Armalight developed the ar15 after various other ar models that were not assault weapons. They still manufacture multiple guns that say ar but are not assault weapons.

Just read.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite

The armalite website history states the same thing.

History channel did a show about the evolution of guns and covered it.

As much as you want it to ar means armalite rifle.

 

[UncleBuck]

As much as you want it to ar means armalite rifle.

no it doesn't

 

[Justin-case]

Fake news, it stands for Arian rifle.

 

[Fogdog]

does anybody really give a shit what the rifle used in a mass shooting's band name is or it's killing power compared to a shotgun?

Fuck an A! Set up a rational system of gun controls to make it difficult for people who shouldn't have them to get any gun and track the ones that are legally owned so that when a gun is stolen, the authorities know about it and can start looking for it. Make illegal ownership or using a gun in a crime worse than most of the crimes committed with them so that it's not worth the risk of using it in a crime.

Who gives a shit about whether its AR or ar? The NRA wins when they manage these kinds of deflections.

 

[ttystikk]

I know. I carried 12 gauge Mossberg with my 9 mm every day in the navy. But I doubt more then 10% of our military carry shotguns. At least in my experience, rifle was weapon of choice for most branches.

Nothing clears a passageway like a shotgun.

All about the right tool for the job.

 

[ttystikk]

Actually I did. Keep your fingers in your ears and keep saying no, no, no while stomping your feet.

You can't dispute that Armalight developed the ar15 after various other ar models that were not assault weapons. They still manufacture multiple guns that say ar but are not assault weapons.

Just read.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite
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The armalite website history states the same thing.

History channel did a show about the evolution of guns and covered it.

As much as you want it to ar means armalite rifle.

He doesn't listen to facts.

 

[Xs121]

He doesn't listen to facts.

we know what UncleBuck is.... he is AR ..... Anal Retentive lol

 

[whitebb2727]

does anybody really give a shit what the rifle used in a mass shooting's band name is or it's killing power compared to a shotgun?

Fuck an A! Set up a rational system of gun controls to make it difficult for people who shouldn't have them to get any gun and track the ones that are legally owned so that when a gun is stolen, the authorities know about it and can start looking for it. Make illegal ownership or using a gun in a crime worse than most of the crimes committed with them so that it's not worth the risk of using it in a crime.

Who gives a shit about whether its AR or ar? The NRA wins when they manage these kinds of deflections.

I'm all for that.

Thing is it stands for armalite rifle. No reason to deny that. I'm trying to have a serious conversation. Trust me. Its been on my mind. I've taken a serious look at myself as a gun owner. To be honest I bought that rapid safe a few months back. Discussing this stuff rationally does makes changes.

You know my stance. I want some loops closed. Tighten some things up. Penalize agencies that fail to share info.


https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/health/ar15-rifle-history-trnd/index.html

CNN states ar stands for armalite rifle.

Some people will be turned off to even having a serious debate over it.

Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe its my ocd is the cause of it bothering me.

 

[UncleBuck]

Thing is it stands for armalite rifle. .

no it doesn't

 

[Fogdog]

I'm all for that.

Thing is it stands for armalite rifle. No reason to deny that. I'm trying to have a serious conversation. Trust me. Its been on my mind. I've taken a serious look at myself as a gun owner. To be honest I bought that rapid safe a few months back. Discussing this stuff rationally does makes changes.

You know my stance. I want some loops closed. Tighten some things up. Penalize agencies that fail to share info.


https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/health/ar15-rifle-history-trnd/index.html

CNN states ar stands for armalite rifle.

Some people will be turned off to even having a serious debate over it.

Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe its my ocd is the cause of it bothering me.

You aren't alone in this. It clearly matters to a lot of people because the AR stuff is brought up every time assault rifle bans become topic dejour. Personally, the only thing that matters is we enact effective gun control legislation and the gun homicide rate drops.

I think this is one of the NRA's tactics to deflect talk about taking action. Maybe I'm just paranoid and the NRA is a benign association of people who love hunting and competition-shooting.

 

[whitebb2727]

You aren't alone in this. It clearly matters to a lot of people because the AR stuff is brought up every time assault rifle bans become topic dejour. Personally, the only thing that matters is we enact effective gun control legislation and the gun homicide rate drops.

I think this is one of the NRA's tactics to deflect talk about taking action. Maybe I'm just paranoid and the NRA is a benign association of people who love hunting and competition-shooting.

Read that article. Ifs interesting.

The last ban kind of fueled the demand for them. You can see it now. Makes me wonder if trump owns gun stock and threatened a ban to drive up sales.

Tell someone they .ca t have something and they want it.

Tbeh were never really banned in the first assault weapons ban. There where ways to get around it.

Sales were slow and stagnant. Guns and ammo even disliked the gun in an 80's edition.

Sales increased after the ban.

I guess if considering a ban then one needs to look at how the last one worked out and what parts worked and what didn't.

 

[Fogdog]

Read that article. Ifs interesting.

The last ban kind of fueled the demand for them. You can see it now. Makes me wonder if trump owns gun stock and threatened a ban to drive up sales.

Tell someone they .ca t have something and they want it.

Tbeh were never really banned in the first assault weapons ban. There where ways to get around it.

Sales were slow and stagnant. Guns and ammo even disliked the gun in an 80's edition.

Sales increased after the ban.

I guess if considering a ban then one needs to look at how the last one worked out and what parts worked and what didn't.

It would be as interesting to me as an article in Tractor Weekly on the changes that Gravely made to mid-sized tractors in 1956. Not that I'm against tractors either. I just want to the carnage from Tractors to stop too.

On the other hand, everybody wants to hear from a non-gun tractor owner like me who "read an article" or "saw the video". So, maybe I'll reconsider. I mean the world, with so many tractor experts who could write effective laws to reduce tractor homicides need me to edit and approve it.

No offense, I'm just playing with an idea that I think is pretty funny. It's just that I'm more interested in bread making than the history behind the name of the AR-15. I'm fine with others wanting to. Also agree that effective gun laws can only be written by a coalition of stakeholders, law enforcement, lawyers and law makers. If you want a passionate voice from the mass of ignorant people who want other people to hear their opinion, talk with @ttystikk

 

[whitebb2727]

It would be as interesting to me as an article in Tractor Weekly on the changes that Gravely made to mid-sized tractors in 1956. Not that I'm against tractors either. I just want to the carnage from Tractors to stop too.

On the other hand, everybody wants to hear from a non-gun tractor owner like me who "read an article" or "saw the video". So, maybe I'll reconsider. I mean the world, with so many tractor experts who could write effective laws to reduce tractor homicides need me to edit and approve it.

No offense, I'm just playing with an idea that I think is pretty funny. It's just that I'm more interested in bread making than the history behind the name of the AR-15. I'm fine with others wanting to. Also agree that effective gun laws can only be written by a coalition of stakeholders, law enforcement, lawyers and law makers. If you want a passionate voice from the mass of ignorant people who want other people to hear their opinion, talk with @ttystikk

All the coverage and talk of bans is fueling another buying frenzy.

I can remember a time when ar15 were not popular. It has now become mainstream.

Just part of them problem that needs solved. The fuel that's driving the buying frenzy.

 

[Fogdog]

All the coverage and talk of bans is fueling another buying frenzy.

I can remember a time when ar15 were not popular. It has now become mainstream.

Just part of them problem that needs solved. The fuel that's driving the buying frenzy.

We can't cure stupid. It happens every time this subject comes up. We also hear the ignant say in defiance "nobody is going to take their guns away". Well, yeeeaaah, there is no reason to take guns away from a peaceful person if they meet background checks and don't threaten anybody.

As you can see, we still have a few more mass murders to go. At least three more years-worth before the confluence of an electorate's demand for effective gun control and a majority in congress with a mandate from their districts come together to produce the will for effective legislation. Then, the media circus, then the debates, then a new president and finally something will be done. Years more to go.

There will be a lot more civilian versions of military assault rifles sold between now and then. Hand guns are worse and a lot more will be spent on those too. The real tragedy will be the 10's of thousands dead and millions traumatized by gun homicides. I think the objective is to reduce gun homicides and don't really care if each of the 30% of our population who own guns spend another $10,000 on more of those rifles. Actually, I can see a benefit in focusing the dimwitted gun owning public on them rather than hand guns.

 

[Ripped Farmer]

All the coverage and talk of bans is fueling another buying frenzy.

I can remember a time when ar15 were not popular. It has now become mainstream.

Just part of them problem that needs solved. The fuel that's driving the buying frenzy.

Well since you mentioned it I have purchased 8 in the last 2 years. 7 are still in the packaging and have never been fired. Thats not including my wife and kids'. We shoot all Larue but the others are mp15s. If anything they will be awesome gifts from "grandpa" someday.

 

[UncleBuck]

Well since you mentioned it I have purchased 8 in the last 2 years. 7 are still in the packaging and have never been fired. Thats not including my wife and kids'. We shoot all Larue but the others are mp15s. If anything they will be awesome gifts from "grandpa" someday.

whites who buy a ton of guns are scared of black people, studies show

 

[whitebb2727]

Well since you mentioned it I have purchased 8 in the last 2 years. 7 are still in the packaging and have never been fired. Thats not including my wife and kids'. We shoot all Larue but the others are mp15s. If anything they will be awesome gifts from "grandpa" someday.

Why not build? Those high dollar names are overpriced.

 

[Fogdog]

Well since you mentioned it I have purchased 8 in the last 2 years. 7 are still in the packaging and have never been fired. Thats not including my wife and kids'. We shoot all Larue but the others are mp15s. If anything they will be awesome gifts from "grandpa" someday.

Thanks. This is exactly what I suspected. LOL. But your hobby is harmless. Like collecting china cabinets. They won't be worth anything and nobody will want them.

just curious How much do those rifles cost? It would be better if you had put the dough into a trust fund.