Senator Sanders, in his own words

[Rob Roy]

yes, me pranking my friend almost two decades ago was a nice distraction for you from the fact that you are a pedophile and a white supremacist cretin

Well you've certainly made those claims a few times. Of course when a guy like you who reneges on a "Hillary will be president" for sure bet says things like that, your credibility is less than stellar.

On the other hand, it's quite possible you've made those claims to hide the fact you are a prohibitionist who endorses using a KKK tactic of disarming black people.

Is that so you can demand black people serve you on their own property and against their will or some other reason you haven't articulated but essentially is a demonstration of your fervent love for the Nanny State?

 

[UncleBuck]

Well you've certainly made those claims a few times. Of course when a guy like you who reneges on a "Hillary will be president" for sure bet says things like that, your credibility is less than stellar.

On the other hand, it's quite possible you've made those claims to hide the fact you are a prohibitionist who endorses using a KKK tactic of disarming black people.

Is that so you can demand black people serve you on their own property and against their will or some other reason you haven't articulated but essentially is a demonstration of your fervent love for the Nanny State?

tell us more about the imaginary alternate history you have devised in which black people were denied service all over the south but it never caused them any harm whatsoever

 

[Rob Roy]

tell us more about the imaginary alternate history you have devised in which black people were denied service all over the south but it never caused them any harm whatsoever

It should be up to the persons involved in a potential interaction to decide whether or not they interact or don't interact. If one party or the other doesn't wish to interact, then the interaction should probably not happen, unless you have a rationale that mimics a rapists actions, as you do.

Forcing another human being to interact with you, when it's clear they don't want to, wouldn't be how I'd do it. I fail to see the justification of how any person has that right. Could you show me where the right to force a peaceful, but unwilling person to interact with you comes from ?

What your gun grabbing from black people friends did, was use your beloved government to prevent OTHER PEOPLE who wished to interact from doing so. They did that when they made Jim Crow laws. The solution to those heinous Jim Crow laws wasn't to force people who didn't want to interact to do so, like you and rapists advocate, it was to cease preventing people who wished to interact from doing so. Leave it up to the persons involved to interact if they mutually wish to, or peacefully ignore each other if one or both wish that.

It is harmful to remove an individuals right to self determine, since doing so violates the equality of every person to make their own choices, The so called "equality" you advocate, is one of equality of oppression where individuals lose their right to self determine and some external force, government, can make others obey them.

Clearly, your "equality" can't be equality since it grants some people automatic power over others personal choices.

It's your love of the Nanny State, which is really a kind of Sick Religion that prevents you from being an advocate for true equality of all people. Why do you think black people shouldn't be able to decide who they interact with on a mutual basis?

How would you enforce your forced association rape similar laws, would you use a gun to do it?

 

[UncleBuck]

It should be up to the persons involved in a potential interaction to decide whether or not they interact or don't interact. If one party or the other doesn't wish to interact, then the interaction should probably not happen, unless you have a rationale that mimics a rapists actions, as you do.

Forcing another human being to interact with you, when it's clear they don't want to, wouldn't be how I'd do it. I fail to see the justification of how any person has that right. Could you show me where the right to force a peaceful, but unwilling person to interact with you comes from ?

What your gun grabbing from black people friends did, was use your beloved government to prevent OTHER PEOPLE who wished to interact from doing so. They did that when they made Jim Crow laws. The solution to those heinous Jim Crow laws wasn't to force people who didn't want to interact to do so, like you and rapists advocate, it was to cease preventing people who wished to interact from doing so. Leave it up to the persons involved to interact if they mutually wish to, or peacefully ignore each other if one or both wish that.

It is harmful to remove an individuals right to self determine, since doing so violates the equality of every person to make their own choices, The so called "equality" you advocate, is one of equality of oppression where individuals lose their right to self determine and some external force, government, can make others obey them.

Clearly, your "equality" can't be equality since it grants some people automatic power over others personal choices.

It's your love of the Nanny State, which is really a kind of Sick Religion that prevents you from being an advocate for true equality of all people. Why do you think black people shouldn't be able to decide who they interact with on a mutual basis?

How would you enforce your forced association rape similar laws, would you use a gun to do it?

isn't it miraculous how your utopia (where white people could deny service to black people based on their skin color) used to exist, and no harm was ever caused to anyone by such a vile and racist practice?

 

[Rob Roy]

isn't it miraculous how your utopia (where white people could deny service to black people based on their skin color) used to exist, and no harm was ever caused to anyone by such a vile and racist practice?

Oh I agree that taking away guns from a peaceful black guy and forcing him to serve you is pretty vile.

Why would you do that again?

 

[UncleBuck]

Oh I agree that taking away guns from a peaceful black guy and forcing him to serve you is pretty vile.

Why would you do that again?

youre trying to change the subject from one of your complete failures of an argument to another complete failure of an argument ya fucking white supremacist cretin

 

[Rob Roy]

youre trying to change the subject from one of your complete failures of an argument to another complete failure of an argument ya fucking white supremacist cretin

If it's a complete failure of an argument explain how your plan would NOT forcibly remove a black persons gun, like the KKK did years ago. Explain how your plan would NOT force a black person to unwillingly serve you.

 

[abandonconflict]

It’s not easy to tell someone you can see or smell death on them.

Is it harder when someone tells you that?

 

[UncleBuck]

If it's a complete failure of an argument explain how your plan would NOT forcibly remove a black persons gun, like the KKK did years ago. Explain how your plan would NOT force a black person to unwillingly serve you.

this has already been explained to you and i have already said we need to ban guns for everyone but black people you pedophile white supremacist cretin

tell us more about how black people shopping at the store is rape and slavery to you, ya fucking girl

 

[Rob Roy]

this has already been explained to you and i have already said we need to ban guns for everyone but black people you pedophile white supremacist cretin

tell us more about how black people shopping at the store is rape and slavery to you, ya fucking girl

So now you just hate and disrespect everybody and somehow you view that as equality. It is, in a very heinous way, because it is equality of oppression.

You've never fleshed out your amazing gun ban ideas. Will you use guns to enforce your idea or not ?

I don't think black people shopping is rape and slavery. Never said that.
I think forcing anybody to use their body to serve you on their own property against their will is pretty low down though. I'd never force somebody to serve me or prevent other people who wished to associate from doing so.

About how many people have you buried in your back yard for failing to serve you against their wishes?

 

[UncleBuck]

I don't think black people shopping is rape and slavery.

yes you do

 

[Rob Roy]

yes you do

 

[ttystikk]

This captures Uncle schmuck perfectly.

 

[ttystikk]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/the-radical-proposal-moderate-democrats-should-be-running-on.html

Progressive causes can win elections and in fact they're going to have an increasingly visible role for at least the next several elections.

The standard refrain of 'tax cuts for the rich' has lost its credibility, if indeed it ever had any.

 

[UncleBuck]

This captures Uncle schmuck perfectly.

cozying up to a white supremacist pedophile, eh?

that's a good look for you

 

[ttystikk]

cozying up to a white supremacist pedophile, eh?

that's a good look for you

That's all you ever do; name call and scream obscenities.

Ray Charles can see it isn't working so clearly your approach is a reflection of what's going on in your life than everyone else.

I've invited you to try a less abusive tone but you clearly lack either the will or the ability.

The funniest thing about you is you thin skin; when others treat you the way you've treated them, you can't stand it!

 

[UncleBuck]

That's all you ever do; name call and scream obscenities.

Ray Charles can see it isn't working so clearly your approach is a reflection of what's going on in your life than everyone else.

I've invited you to try a less abusive tone but you clearly lack either the will or the ability.

The funniest thing about you is you thin skin; when others treat you the way you've treated them, you can't stand it!

then show me your strategy for fixing rob roy, who is a white supremacist pedophile

 

[ttystikk]

then show me your strategy for fixing rob roy, who is a white supremacist pedophile

Since when was it your job to 'fix' him- or anyone else for that matter?

Has it occurred to you that your constant hatred and mean-spirited engagement with him has simply made things worse? You keep giving him a platform, while sounding childish, angry and unstable yourself.

Fuck, you even used to have good points. You don't even have those anymore.

 

[Fogdog]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/the-radical-proposal-moderate-democrats-should-be-running-on.html

Progressive causes can win elections and in fact they're going to have an increasingly visible role for at least the next several elections.

The standard refrain of 'tax cuts for the rich' has lost its credibility, if indeed it ever had any.

80 million people are enrolled in plans that they like and say they don't want to switch to Medicare. Bernie's "Cauise" would force them into Medicare.

Forcing everybody to abandon health care plans that they are already in and like is a losing strategy in almost any district but especially in conservative districts that Democrats must win in order to retake the House and gain seats in the Senate. Protecting and repairing the ACA is a much better position for Democrats to run on in 2018. If that's not enough for you, "Medicare opt in" is politically more acceptable than Medicare for all. For example, there is no way that Lamb would have won if he had been pushing the Medicare for all plan that Bernie is pushing.

 

[UncleBuck]

Since when was it your job to 'fix' him- or anyone else for that matter?

Has it occurred to you that your constant hatred and mean-spirited engagement with him has simply made things worse? You keep giving him a platform, while sounding childish, angry and unstable yourself.

Fuck, you even used to have good points. You don't even have those anymore.

so then what is your approach for dealing with rob roy, who is a white supremacist pedophile?