How can we achieve a living wage?

Ripped Farmer

Ripped Farmer

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UncleBuck said:
Why aren’t they grinding their own sorghum and millet? Stupid poors!
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We do.

Add up a lifetime of not watching brain numbing sitcoms and tv shows, spend that time working for yourself instead of paying someone else for processed foods and you might think otherwise.
 
UncleBuck

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Ripped Farmer said:
We do.

Add up a lifetime of not watching brain numbing sitcoms and tv shows, spend that time working for yourself instead of paying someone else for processed foods and you might think otherwise.
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I bet these poors even have laces for their shoes! No wonder they are poors
 
Ripped Farmer

Ripped Farmer

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UncleBuck said:
I bet these poors even have laces for their shoes! No wonder they are poors
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even on your lunch break, Im in your thoughts. assuming you are working.

I bet you think about me after I leave and go home. Evening time in bucky world, thoughts of rassissms and how much you hate trump. Grrrrrrr
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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ANC said:
I'm not so sure of that, if anything the middle-class IS the problem. Not in terms of them doing anything wrong, but in terms of what others aspire to. Most poor people don't aspire to have billionaire status... but they could imagine having more than one car etc...
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The upper classes are far harder on the environment than anyone else.
 
ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
The guardian is a good news source as is Reich a good theoretical source for economic advice.

Quite a lot can be done to achieve a baseline independent living standard without pushing a higher minimum wage, such as universal healthcare and addressing the cost of housing. .How to set the minimum wage is another question. Scandinavians have a minimum wage but it's set by unions and industry in negotiation.

I don't understand how Progressives(TM) opting to not vote will do anything to achieve an independent lifestyle for everybody. Republicans in control of govt. is the first stiff obstacle to be removed. Seems counterproductive.
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Lol

Like you have a doctorate.
 
Fogdog

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Ripped Farmer said:
Nobody is stealing your shoe collection or putting you on a train any time soon, geez.

You are accustomed to a lifestyle, its that simple. You feel anything at or below your line is simply not good enough and you want more. Shoe collections, outfits that get worn 3 times, eating out, sugar drinks, frozen meals, vacations to exotic money sucks, etc. You are diming yourselves into poverty by straight up living at and and above your means. Why?
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Plenty of so-called conservatives re-mortgaged their homes and spent the equity that had built up in their homes on frivolous shit. Overall, more Republicans are over extended on debt than Democrats. Your kind just spend money like drunken sailors.
 
Ripped Farmer

Ripped Farmer

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Fogdog said:
Plenty of so-called conservatives re-mortgaged their homes and spent the equity that had built up in their homes on frivolous shit. Overall, more Republicans are over extended on debt than Democrats. Your kind just spend money like drunken sailors.
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Is a mortgage that thing where you owe people money for a big box to store things in? 30 years to pay off? Interest rates that more than double the cost? 150+ a sqft?!

Sounds like a trap.
 
Fogdog

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Ripped Farmer said:
Is a mortgage that thing where you owe people money for a big box to store things in? 30 years to pay off? Interest rates that more than double the cost? 150+ a sqft?!

Sounds like a trap.
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No, I used the home loan to buy a home where I raise my kids and plan to live in until I can no longer maintain it. I didn't see it as an investment, I see my home as a hedge against inflation. The loan was useful to help buy the home I live in. Paid it off as soon as I could.

Why is it that conservatives are so bad with money and debt?
 
Ripped Farmer

Ripped Farmer

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Fogdog said:
No, I used the home loan to buy a home where I raise my kids and plan to live in until I can no longer maintain it. I didn't see it as an investment, I see my home as a hedge against inflation. The loan was useful to help buy the home I live in. Paid it off as soon as I could.

Why is it that conservatives are so bad with money and debt?
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Thats a legitimate way to buy a home on someone else's dime. However most do not do it this way. They tell everyone else including themselves that they will pay it down as you did as a hedge against inflation, but only to turn around and use the loan as if they are going to carry it for the entire 30 years while taking out 2nd mortgages to fund fun times while they got it, and usually with a maxed out front end ration. They never make it 30 years and walk away owing more than they can afford.
 
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