New to COCO, wanna help?

[TintEastwood]

Ph
Temps
Rh
Ppm/ec

The rest is easy lol

It's all a big pain in the ass and wallet! (but we love it)


I've been over at Coco College.....learning about fertigating my bishes in Coco.
https://cocoforcannabis.com/watering_coco/

Automate the feedings......hand watering every 2-3 hours during lights on is a real drag.
https://cocoforcannabis.com/diy-automatic-watering-system/

 

[icetech]

why water every 2-3 hours? my coco is still wet 3 days later.. I love the url for that page btw

 

[gr865]

No more hand watering for me.
2017 model, 5 plant vertical grow.


2018 model, 5 plant vertical, 8 port Orbit manifold, plugged 3


Same model, the emitter used, loved this and will use it again.


2019 model, 3 - 8 port Orbit manifolds, 24 plant SOG, used drip emitters did not like it.


Current rez and pump system.


Like this setup, pump is very noisy though. I get four to five days of 4 cycles/light period, per 15 gallon fill.

 

[diggs99]

why water every 2-3 hours? my coco is still wet 3 days later.. I love the url for that page btw

Hes following DJMs advice, constant waterings 5-6 times daily every few hours.

Coco is meant to be treated like HYDRO, not like soil. It dries out fast and is inert , so watering/feeding frequently has great benefits.

DONT let your coco dry out the same way you would soil grows, one of the perks of COCO is the risk of over watering is minimal compared to soil, when they are young you can use the wet/dry cycle as was explained to me, it helps with root growth, but once they are of size, you can water those girls pretty frequently. You want your coco to always be moist at the least.

 

[icetech]

Hes following DJMs advice, constant waterings 5-6 times daily every few hours.

Coco is meant to be treated like HYDRO, not like soil. It dries out fast and is inert , so watering/feeding frequently has great benefits.

DONT let your coco dry out the same way you would soil grows, one of the perks of COCO is the risk of over watering is minimal compared to soil, when they are young you can use the wet/dry cycle as was explained to me, it helps with root growth, but once they are of size, you can water those girls pretty frequently. You want your coco to always be moist at the least.

doh.. been treating it more like soil, was afraid of root rot or just too much.. will step it up a bit. thanks

 

[diggs99]

No more hand watering for me.
2017 model, 5 plant vertical grow.
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2018 model, 5 plant vertical, 8 port Orbit manifold, plugged 3
View attachment 4342519

Same model, the emitter used, loved this and will use it again.
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2019 model, 3 - 8 port Orbit manifolds, 24 plant SOG, used drip emitters did not like it.
View attachment 4342512

Current rez and pump system.
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Like this setup, pump is very noisy though. I get four to five days of 4 cycles per 15 gallon fill.

Love this setup gr, cant wait to get my new room setup properly, this hand watering 14 plants daily is getting old, should be fun once i start feeding them 3 times a day lol

My main focus once my lights are built will be automation. i gotta start removing some of the work from this equation.

 

[TintEastwood]

What Diggs said. Its running the room at high rh mainly. Been doing the multifeeds. (And made some mistakes...root rot....etc along the way)

My 2017 Outdoor......5x a day.


5, 7, 10 gal Coco. Lol


Memories....Spent way too much cashish on the GH nutes.

Remote site...





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[Thegermling]

Hes following DJMs advice, constant waterings 5-6 times daily every few hours.

Coco is meant to be treated like HYDRO, not like soil. It dries out fast and is inert , so watering/feeding frequently has great benefits.

DONT let your coco dry out the same way you would soil grows, one of the perks of COCO is the risk of over watering is minimal compared to soil, when they are young you can use the wet/dry cycle as was explained to me, it helps with root growth, but once they are of size, you can water those girls pretty frequently. You want your coco to always be moist at the least.

You can treat coco like soil and get soil results nothing wrong with that. I use that method when my veg tent is full so I can get slow growth. I even let the top barely get dry. Whenever I want fast growth I treat coco like hydro. Thats why I love coco. Its the best of both worlds imo. Also, you can overwater a plant in coco if the root system is not big enough to handle frequent waterings especially in nursery type pots. I will say it is harder to overwater a seedling in a fabric type pot since they provide even more aeration.

 

[diggs99]

Ohhh man...im still only at page 60 of DJM thread, that thing is a gold mine of info.

Was about to give up on it, but he just reappeared, so gotta keep reading. Thanks @JohnDee for sharing it man, amazing thread


edit: ugh page 73 and that thing deteriorated fast.

 

[Thegermling]

Ohhh man...im still only at page 60 of DJM thread, that thing is a gold mine of info.

Was about to give up on it, but he just reappeared, so gotta keep reading. Thanks @JohnDee for sharing it man, amazing thread


edit: ugh page 73 and that thing deteriorated fast.

I hear you its a long read and many dont believe that VPD works and people shat on him way back before VPD was taken serious. DJM is planning to release a book about all his tips and tricks soon so be on the lookout.

 

[TintEastwood]

I hear you its a long read and many dont believe that VPD works and people shat on him way back before VPD was taken serious. DJM is planning to release a book about all his tips and tricks soon so be on the lookout.

I dug it when DJM told tent boy to gtfo of his thread.

 

[diggs99]

Hey @TintEastwood

I just seen those spread sheets you posted on the other thread, wanna do me a solid and post them in here too? This thread is my one stop shop for all things coco so far. You guys have flooded this thread with great info. I'll use this over and over for years to come lol

I'm sure other newbies like me will also appreciate it.

 

[TintEastwood]

I use these to help me with mixing nutes.


PPM breakdowns.


Showing 1-Part Mega Crop column as the base.
I'm working on a Jack's version. Just for kicks....I dont even use it. Lol




Some of this data may be old.
No idea what most of them are.


Order Matters: Adding nutrients in the wrong order can create lock out, which leaves the nutrients unavailable to the plant.

When dilution is required to reach the target EC, it is best to dilute with “Cal/Mag” water rather than plain water.

How to mix nutes?
I learned a few things today.
https://cocoforcannabis.com/mixnutes/

 

[diggs99]

I dug it when DJM told tent boy to gtfo of his thread.

Hey you mentioned earlier, somewhere, that you were gonna run the DJM method, is that in the space you normally use?

What are you doing? intake with passive exhaust? or you using AC?



Thanks for posting those charts, this thread is plugged full of info, someday another coco newb is gonna find it and think GOLDMINE!!!! lol

 

[diggs99]

View attachment 4343904 Heres a 4 day difference pic of the Coco girls.

Pic on left is day 21 directly after transplant.
Pic on right is from last night. Day 25

I think this is a good indication the roots are exploring well. Another couple wet/dry cycles and i think they will be ready to start taking water more frequently.

Very impressed with this coco so far.View attachment 4343900

 

[TintEastwood]

Hey you mentioned earlier, somewhere, that you were gonna run the DJM method, is that in the space you normally use?

What are you doing? intake with passive exhaust? or you using AC?



Thanks for posting those charts, this thread is plugged full of info, someday another coco newb is gonna find it and think GOLDMINE!!!! lol

Glad to post them.

I'm using my 1 and only 4x8x8 flower room. Sealed, AC, Co2.

I only exhaust at lights on and off. Pulling in fresh air thru a 20"x30" Merv13 intake filter. No bugs and chit allowed in my room.

The major change is not being scared to run high humidity. High being 70-75%. With temps to match for VPD.

Currently temps in the low 80s. Leaf surface temps 77-84.

 

[TintEastwood]

View attachment 4343905 View attachment 4343904 Heres a 4 day difference pic of the Coco girls.

Pic on left is day 21 directly after transplant.
Pic on right is from last night. Day 25

I think this is a good indication the roots are exploring well. Another couple wet/dry cycles and i think they will be ready to start taking water more frequently.

Very impressed with this coco so far.View attachment 4343900

Killer.
I'll bet your fabrics have root beard stubble in no time!

 

[TintEastwood]

Before and after stretch.
Also right after I did defol.

Thats my intake vent against the back. Big vacuum (negative pressure) actuated flap.

 

[diggs99]

Before and after stretch.
Also right after I did defol.

Thats my intake vent against the back. Big vacuum (negative pressure) actuated flap.

View attachment 4343912 View attachment 4343913

Those emitters are cool, how to you find them for spreading the water throughout the pot?

Im thinking about setting up a simple design similar to Picos over at icmag....make things easier in my garden until i switch to ebb and flow.
https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/12245IMG_4514.JPG

My idea is even simpler than his, i plan to run 1 long run down the length of my table, have drip lines running off it to each pot, each pot draining off to my plumbing in the basement floor.

Im looking for good emitters. was gonna go back and read the earlier posts from you and gr...see what you were using.

edit: is this the ones you have?
https://www.amazon.ca/Bloom-Brothers-Ggwr06-6-Inch-Support/dp/B008UF9VXE/ref=sr_1_11?crid=ZD5L1WX9KU4N&keywords=drip+emitter+hydroponics&qid=1559493747&s=gateway&sprefix=drip+emi,aps,193&sr=8-11

 

[TintEastwood]

Those emitters are cool, how to you find them for spreading the water throughout the pot?

Im thinking about setting up a simple design similar to Picos over at icmag....make things easier in my garden until i switch to ebb and flow.
https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/12245IMG_4514.JPG

My idea is even simpler than his, i plan to run 1 long run down the length of my table, have drip lines running off it to each pot, each pot draining off to my plumbing in the basement floor.

Im looking for good emitters. was gonna go back and read the earlier posts from you and gr...see what you were using.

HydroHalos. They rain down vs drip. I think your solution is best.

Heres a drip type manifold I cobbled.