New to COCO, wanna help?

diggs99 · Jun 2, 2019

TintEastwood said:
HydroHalos. They rain down vs drip. I think your solution is best.

Heres a drip type manifold I cobbled.
View attachment 4343926

ya basically like that only longer run, I could even run 2 hoses out to each pot, place Ts on end of each line, create 4 drips instead of 2?

Id like to be able to cover the pot as best i can. altho many good growers are just using the single or T`d drips, so obv they must do the job.

TintEastwood · Jun 2, 2019

diggs99 said:
ya basically like that only longer run, I could even run 2 hoses out to each pot, place Ts on end of each line, create 4 drips instead of 2?

Id like to be able to cover the pot as best i can. altho many good growers are just using the single or T`d drips, so obv they must do the job.

Others will be better help on this.
My drip experience is very limited.

I'll be learning from you.

I can say, a larger diameter main manifold provides more even pressure to all outlets. Non regulated.

And....higher manifold pressure is better than low.

What is DJM doin?? :weed:

I need to read up on his details. Remember him maybe delivering 1/2 gal per plant per feeding. But thays based on his enviro/pot/plant size....

bongsmilie

Sunday with wifey. :peace:

diggs99 · Jun 2, 2019

TintEastwood said:
Others will be better help on this.
My drip experience is very limited.

I'll be learning from you.

I can say, a larger diameter main manifold provides more even pressure to all outlets. Non regulated.

And....higher manifold pressure is better than low.

What is DJM doin?? I need to read up on his details. Remember him maybe delivering 1/2 gal per plant per feeding. But thays based on his enviro/pot/plant size....

Sunday with wifey.

Yep DJM is doing 1/2 gallon 6 times a day...3 gallons per 5g pot daily.

I may use 1 inch pvc for my manifold, maybe even 1-1/4 or 1-1/2 if it works better.

I messed around with a sketch of the new room. Planning for everything so i can just put it all together as soon as the CMH tent is finished. Tell me if anything is wrong or can be done better. im always open to suggestions.

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Renfro · Jun 2, 2019

are you using a 55 gallon barrel for the res?

might be nice to have a res for each tent?

diggs99 · Jun 2, 2019

Renfro said:
are you using a 55 gallon barrel for the res?

might be nice to have a res for each tent?

when i switch to ebb and flow i plan to buy and use a 80g res per table running on its own pump and timer. just in case i wanna run different strains. the tables will be able to disconnect easily and be moved away from the others.

for this run with the coco girls a 50g will be fine for the 2g pots, im looking at about 8-10g a day in water once all 9 are going full force. so refilling/topping up every 3-4 days will be fine i think?

TintEastwood · Jun 2, 2019

diggs99 said:
Yep DJM is doing 1/2 gallon 6 times a day...3 gallons per 5g pot daily.

I may use 1 inch pvc for my manifold, maybe even 1-1/4 or 1-1/2 if it works better.

I messed around with a sketch of the new room. Planning for everything so i can just put it all together as soon as the CMH tent is finished. Tell me if anything is wrong or can be done better. im always open to suggestions.

@TintEastwood
@Renfro
@JohnDee
@gr865
@Thundercat View attachment 4344033

Aha. Sweet. I love pictures!

diggs99 · Jun 2, 2019

Renfro said:
are you using a 55 gallon barrel for the res?

might be nice to have a res for each tent?

you think that pvc manifold straight run would work fine? i was actually considering building 3 of them in a looped rectangle, 1 for each table and have each table with its own res. less topping up/refilling and more flexibilty with the tables/strains.

Strips were in my province yesterday, got sent back in opposite direction and are now back in ontario again, needless to say it was a WTF moment when i checked tracking lol

Renfro · Jun 2, 2019

A looped manifold would have more even pressure at the various outputs, still some sort of flow control valves may be in order to equalize outputs. Also watch for clogged lines. running two per plant is a good way to help prevent problems if you get a clog.

Good that you are doing a res per table.

Renfro · Jun 2, 2019

For reservoirs look into vertical storage tanks. More water in a smaller area. 55 gallon barrels are good too. I have a 300 gallon vertical storage tank with RO in it that I can use anytime for whatever, like flushing or filling my flood and drain res.

diggs99 · Jun 3, 2019

Renfro said:
A looped manifold would have more even pressure at the various outputs, still some sort of flow control valves may be in order to equalize outputs. Also watch for clogged lines. running two per plant is a good way to help prevent problems if you get a clog.

Good that you are doing a res per table.

Are flow valves and pressure reducing valves the same thing? Valve with a small handle to control pressure to the line? Would you put one on each line?

Gr has them on his setup back on the first page, def adds some control to the setup.

Renfro said:
For reservoirs look into vertical storage tanks. More water in a smaller area. 55 gallon barrels are good too. I have a 300 gallon vertical storage tank with RO in it that I can use anytime for whatever, like flushing or filling my flood and drain res.

Ya i figured each table having its own manifold and res will fit the situation better. For now i plan to use 3 x 50g totes i bought at canadian tire, they should be fine. They are very heavy duty.

Im wondering now tho, if doing it this way for each table way be better....Im assuming 2 lines per pot will be enough, not sure if i need it looped anyway. Could use reducing valves on each line to control pressure/flow. I think it can work lol.

@gr865 are these emitters similar to what your using?
https://www.amazon.ca/Irrigation-Sprinklers-Adjustable-Watering-Emitter-50/dp/B07G83T8J5/ref=sr_1_15?hvadid=74698143765766&hvbmt=bb&hvdev=c&hvqmt=b&keywords=drip+irrigation+emitters&qid=1559561175&s=gateway&sr=8-15

Renfro · Jun 3, 2019

diggs99 said:
Are flow valves and pressure reducing valves the same thing?

Just regular old valves.

gr865 · Jun 3, 2019

diggs99 said:
Are flow valves and pressure reducing valves the same thing? Valve with a small handle to control pressure to the line? Would you put one on each line?
Gr has them on his setup back on the first page, def adds some control to the setup.
Ya i figured each table having its own manifold and res will fit the situation better. For now i plan to use 3 x 50g totes i bought at canadian tire, they should be fine. They are very heavy duty.
Im wondering now tho, if doing it this way for each table way be better....Im assuming 2 lines per pot will be enough, not sure if i need it looped anyway. Could use reducing valves on each line to control pressure/flow. I think it can work lol.
@gr865 are these emitters similar to what your using?
https://www.amazon.ca/Irrigation-Sprinklers-Adjustable-Watering-Emitter-50/dp/B07G83T8J5/ref=sr_1_15?hvadid=74698143765766&hvbmt=bb&hvdev=c&hvqmt=b&keywords=drip+irrigation+emitters&qid=1559561175&s=gateway&sr=8-15

This is what I am using, same pattern, different config.

JohnDee · Jun 3, 2019

diggs99 said:
Id like to be able to cover the pot as best i can. altho many good growers are just using the single or T`d drips, so obv they must do the job.

Goog morning...
You've been busy...I just wanted to comment on a little drip ring I made the other day. Using the semi-rigid 1/4" tubing. All you need is the T on the end and then take a small chunk of tubing to form a loop from and back to the T. Just use a hot nail to melt some holes and voila...cheap drip ring.
JD

diggs99 · Jun 3, 2019

Thanks @gr865

I know your using the 8 port manifolds, do you think the pvc layout like i posted above would work fine? or is the manifold system better for numerous reasons?

I have been looking at the floraflex multi bubbler/manifold. They seem to be getting decent reviews, few growers around here and youtube are using them without issue it seems.

i dont mind spending a few extra bucks if it means lower chance of issue or better performance.

Renfro said:
Just regular old valves.

lol ok.

You think i should still loop the manifold if i go 1 per table? or would the T version above work?

ive been looking at the floraflex 6 and 8 port manifolds with drip lines, seems like a simple setup aswell.

diggs99 · Jun 3, 2019

JohnDee said:
Goog morning...
You'bve been busy...I just wanted to comment on a little drip ring I made the other day. Using the semi-rigid 1/4" tubing. All you need is the T on the end end and then take a small chunk of tubing to form a loop from and back to the T. Just use a hot nail to melt some holes and voila...cheap drip ring.
JD

Good morning JD, Thats a cool idea.
ya things are moving a little faster now. Plants are getting bigger. They gonna need their new space very soon.Wont be long before they outgrow the 4x4. Im already tired of handwatering , so been tackling that the past couple of days.
My Led strips are being delivered today apparently. So if im not too busy with work, i hope to have them built by the weekend.

Need to dismantle and re-setup both 4x4s, then setup the room. Gonna be busy. Once its done tho, i should have a very easy room to operate.

Renfro · Jun 3, 2019

diggs99 said:
You think i should still loop the manifold if i go 1 per table? or would the T version above work?

With flow control valves it won't matter. Those drip emitters GR posted look like the perfect solution, control valve on the top to adjust flow rate so they are all equal. I think they will plug up less often that a drip ring will also.

diggs99 · Jun 3, 2019

Renfro said:
With flow control valves it won't matter. Those drip emitters GR posted look like the perfect solution, control valve on the top to adjust flow rate so they are all equal. I think they will plug up less often that a drip ring will also.

Bro, can you link me to what a flow control valve looks like for this setup? ive been searching amazon and they have bunches of them for gas lines etc....but they seem expensive and i dont think are the same as what your referring to.

@gr865 do the cutoff valves you have attached to each line off the manifold control flow at all? or just on/off?

I think i found those emitters on amazon.ca
https://www.amazon.ca/Irrigation-Drippers-Adjustable-Emitters-Vegetable/dp/B07CJRXH54/ref=sr_1_21_sspa?crid=12V82ETQ2UU8F&keywords=drip+emitter+1/4&qid=1559598180&s=gateway&sprefix=drip+emitter,aps,196&sr=8-21-spons&psc=1&smid=A22TNJTMHYRDX4

These any good? not showing much else for 1/4 cutoffs for drip
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07CG8JRTM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2HSFOAIGPMKK&psc=1

diggs99 · Jun 3, 2019

@gr865 sorry man, more questions.

What happens with remaining water left in your lines once the timer/pump shuts off? does it drain back into res ?

Also wondering if you use a particle filter before the manifold aswell? or is it not needed in this setup?

Im leaning more and more towards just using 2 manifolds like you have and those same emitters.

Sorry for all the questions, i just know your the perfect person to ask about this setup

TintEastwood · Jun 3, 2019

Awesome. Your irrigation planning is coming right along.

Now...Time for me to whine about my res temp challenges.

Where to put my 15 gallon nute res and baby 1/10hp chilla. Until October/November when they go in garage.

:wall:

1. In 96 degree garage?
2. In 84 degee flower room?

I have them in my veg room currently. Just as hot as my flower room....even hotter with the frickin chilla heat. Condensation on exterior of res. Arghhh. :oops:

Thanks.

diggs99 · Jun 3, 2019

Thats something i havent even considered, res temps.

Running the DJM way, high temps and high rh, one would expect the res temps to increase if its in the same room.

I have heard you guys mention chillers, may have to look into one of those?

New to COCO, wanna help?

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