Why does that say it expands 2x? My promix doesn’t.
Pro-mix questions
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booms111
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They sell compressed bales and loose bags.
MedMonkey
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Actually the promix HP will dry faster than the coco. Coco holds a lot of moisture, and takes about half the amount of feed to get the runoff the promix does. The main reasons for feeding/watering coco more frequently is the growth rate and extra oxygen to roots. Basically treating it like hydro with slightly higher ph. Pretty much the same can be done in promix HP is all I'm getting at.
MedMonkey
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Last bale I got I had to lug up three flights of stairs to avoid funny looks in the elevator from other tenants
. So I said fk that and went to coco. Easy to bring in a brick and expand it to 40L and can be reused many times. I still have promix around, but only use it when I'm out of coco and have to plant somethingi have coco for mothers, it dries out a lot faster than promix. I’ve always thought of growing as either feeding the plants via water and salts (hydro) or feeding a live soil. So treating it like hydro to me a nonsense term. If you left all the salts out and just had tour plants in water as a substrate are you doing hydro? Of course not, it’s nonsense. So treating it like hydro is a nonsense term to me. Do it as you want, but I can guarantee you there are guys out there getting killer yields feeding only as needed. If I wanted to water every day or several times a day I would do dwc cause you’re making a lot more work for yourself with no gains. I would never recommend that to anybody
MedMonkey
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Look, I yeild more with daily feeding (usually twice daily) in coco or promix. I was getting "killer yields" watering/feeding only as needed in promix, but switching to daily or twice daily and slightly lower ph gave me an even more "killer yeild" and faster growth. Coco holds more water. Water a plant in promix, and one in coco at the same time same amount same size container and the coco will runoff more and faster than the promix. Once they're both fully saturated, the coco will runoff more and with less, and the promix will dry faster. It's not more work because i run a drip and all I do is fill a bucket every couple days. Not going to argue. It is how it is. I've done it more than enough times to know what you are saying is incorrect. Except for the part about doing well only watering as needed in promix. That is true, but not the only way to do it, and not necessarily the best either.
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Boatguy
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Not sure what you are trying to get at. Promix holds more water, so needs less watering.
Usually water mine every 3 days or so. More frequently on older plants, and less frequently for the newly repotted.
MedMonkey
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Ok... you guys just keep doing what you're doing. I'm speaking from my experience and just sharing. I can go right now and water a plant in coco and one in promix. Both are same size/age. The coco looks fully saturated, but the promix looks dryer on top. If I water them and give them both the same amount, and the coco will be first to runoff and will runoff more.
Boatguy
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That is a fact that i can agree with
Peat has to "absorb" your water.....taking time.
to me the whole point of soilless medium is to mimic the environment as close to possible, hydro with root zones they evolved to use. Doesn’t rain everyday in nature.The medium doesn’t need moisture replenished if it’s still moist and it doesn’t need air replenished that quick either. now you say your way worked better for you. How much better? Veg length flower length, lights and gpw would help me understand.
hybridway2
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They sell bags for stair climbers like yourself. Couple bucks more but bailing up stairs, bump that noise.Last bale I got I had to lug up three flights of stairs to avoid funny looks in the elevator from other tenants
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Chef420
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If I lift anything over 40 lbs
word. The guy at my hydro store will break it in half for me. Makes it a lot more manageable. Maybe it you ask them nicely....
hybridway2
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My ProMix HP dries just as fast as my CycoPearl CoCo.
Recently bought the Fungicide HP. Am transplanting to it next with hopes of deturing fungus gnats that have been appearing in the flower room as of late.
I for one am enjoying using Pro-Mix rather then CoCo. I especially like that it comes with a 2 week charge that is gentle enough of the youngins but will also feed a big girl for a week as well. This Charge has treated my plants just right, despite the intial low-ph run off & high EC that comes with using Pro-Mix in the early potting stage. Just ignore it.
DO NOT Flush out your new Pro-Mix to correct the runoff. I did that the first time i used it (paying attention anyways) & regretted it. I washed out all the good stuff.
Now this charge will eventually wear out but while its in there you can start your feeds at 1/2 strength if just transplanted a teen or big girl. Babies can ride the charge & bubbled water with a fairly high ph of 6.5-even 7. It will runoff around 5.7 ish give or take.
From what im seeing, i can feed everyday to runnoff in my 5 gall potts which happen to be holding plants that prob couldve went in 7 gal potts. Hence almost drying daily but never letting them get totally dry.
These girls are doing better then my bigger 7 gall. Potted plants that get feed once every other day to runnoff. These Bitches are being bitches. Runoff is harder to keep in check (suspecting over drying has crystalized salts on roots causing eitherlock out or unstable media, meaning not equal runnoff coming out in EC/PH).
In attempts to keep the media moist i have aquired fungus gnats on a low level & found ways around that by my second Pro-Mix run. Same happened in CoCo.
But yeah, id have to agree that daily feeds in a smaller pott, root filled is the way to go. Muliti-Daily, small feeds on a drip or timer system would be nice too.
Always did every other day for yrs & am now seeing why that was not the best route.
If a pot dries a lil to much then it can do damage.
I also had a few go overdry this past run n cuz i was not able to feed them in time, they were a battle against pre-mature yellowing leaves .
Daily feeds seam to be the ticket!
Good Luck!
hybridway2
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Lifting potts is how i determine their dryness.
Who said they finger their dirt??
No,no, dont finger nore shag your dirt bud! That will tell you only the top which tends to dry faster with a heavily soaked middle. Maybe that helps with if you wana just dribble some water up there to keep topsoil moist. Gnats like that.
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U r a dum ass u can water every day with pro mix hp i do it u need to check out bill ward on you tube he does it too and his plants look way better than your plants ever could
I don't know, calling somebody a "dum ass" a year and a half after a post doesn't really impress me much, not a nice way to join a dead conversation. Besides, one of the nice things about pro-mix is with the right size pot you don't have to water everyday, if you want to do that why not use coco? And no, we aren't going to go check out you-tube ffs.
Why u scared that u r wrong