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DIY-HP-LED

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The snake oil salesman is at it again
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TRUMP SAYS HE WANTS TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF VENTILATORS IN FAVOR OF UNPROVEN DRUG COMBINATION
resident Donald Trump on Saturday said the unproven drug combination he has referred to as a coronavirus treatment could be preferable to placing Americans suffering from COVID-19 on any of the 10,000 ventilators states have requested from a federal stockpile.

Trump, who has no medical training, has for several weeks mentioned a combination of an anti-malaria drug, hydroxychloroquine, and azithromycin as a potential cure for the virus that the World Health Organization has classified as a global pandemic.


While there are a number of ongoing clinical trials testing the efficacy of those and other medications to see if any will be effective against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, medical experts have cautioned against the use of any drug therapies that have not been proven to work in a controlled trial.

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On Friday, the federal government's top virologist, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Dr. Anthony Fauci, specifically warned what further studies are needed to determine whether the drugs touted by the president will work against COVID-19

"We still need to do the definitive studies to determine whether any intervention, not just this one, is truly safe and effective," Fauci said during an appearance on Fox News.

But during Saturday's White House press briefing, Trump stepped up to the microphone unprompted to reference the drug combination again just moments after Fauci addressed a reporter's question about the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths expected this coming week.
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DIY-HP-LED

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Chinese Emergency Pandemic Mask Factory Visit
Join me as I tour one of the many new mask factories that have been set up to supply the global mask demand during the covid-19 crisis
 

rkymtnman

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@Dr.Amber Trichome
I read your post about the test to check for the antibody but here's my ?:

how soon will they know that having covid makes you immune to it the next time? i thought i read there are 8 "varieties" of covid 19 around the world. If I got variety A, am I immune to variety F? thoughts?
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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I saw a nurse using ink on her hands to demonstrate how often we touch our faces, her face was blue all over in no time. Mindfulness is the only thing I can think of that would help a person not to, but nobody is mindful all the time, lots of other stuff is going on too.
Stay safe and stay strong, keep up the artwork, it appears to help you.
So true! It’s so hard to keep on top of it all.
@Dr.Amber Trichome
I read your post about the test to check for the antibody but here's my ?:

how soon will they know that having covid makes you immune to it the next time? i thought i read there are 8 "varieties" of covid 19 around the world. If I got variety A, am I immune to variety F? thoughts?
I Don’t know details. I did not known that there are 8 varieties , that is crazy. That complicates matters. Wish I could give you some good news but this entire ordeal is a mystery in so many ways as Dr. Fauci has admitted he doesn’t even understand this Virus, which makes things so scary. I know the numbers of everything are not accurate. Not enough Testing at all. Now Covid 19 is known to cause never seen before clotting causing strokes and heart attacks and is creating associations with so many deaths. No one knows enough about it at this point. People with no health problems are dying . It does not fit the classical patterns. Hopefully there will be some clarification and understanding very soon. I am very disgusted at this point and feel completely betrayed and upset that our leaders are so stupid and have let this become the slowest and most ill prepared health crisis. We will never know for certain how many deaths were associated with this Virus. For instance the cancer patients that we see here at my facility who are going into hospice now and are dying daily , yes they had Cancer but are they dying because of the Cancer getting them or is it because they had gotten the Covid 19. I doubt they will autopsy the Cancer patients to figure that out. They will just call it complications to Cancer. This is just out of control. My only hope now is it fizzles out and mutates down to lower levels of toxicity. It’s like No one is safe. Anyone could have some weird genetic makeup that the Virus cling to you eat you alive and kills you. Like those 2 young 30 year old perfectly healthy men that recently died and Dr. Fauci has said he is completely baffled and can not explain why they died.

If I read any updates on the immunity tests I will let you know. Take Care.
 

rkymtnman

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So true! It’s so hard to keep on top of it all.

I Don’t know details. I did not known that there are 8 varieties , that is crazy. That complicates matters. Wish I could give you some good news but this entire ordeal is a mystery in so many ways as Dr. Fauci has admitted he doesn’t even understand this Virus, which makes things so scary. I know the numbers of everything are not accurate. Not enough Testing at all. Now Covid 19 is known to cause never seen before clotting causing strokes and heart attacks and is creating associations with so many deaths. No one knows enough about it at this point. People with no health problems are dying . It does not fit the classical patterns. Hopefully there will be some clarification and understanding very soon. I am very disgusted at this point and feel completely betrayed and upset that our leaders are so stupid and have let this become the slowest and most ill prepared health crisis. We will never know for certain how many deaths were associated with this Virus. For instance the cancer patients that we see here at my facility who are going into hospice now and are dying daily , yes they had Cancer but are they dying because of the Cancer getting them or is it because they had gotten the Covid 19. I doubt they will autopsy the Cancer patients to figure that out. They will just call it complications to Cancer. This is just out of control. My only hope now is it fizzles out and mutates down to lower levels of toxicity. It’s like No one is safe. Anyone could have some weird genetic makeup that the Virus cling to you eat you alive and kills you. Like those 2 young 30 year old perfectly healthy men that recently died and Dr. Fauci has said he is completely baffled and can not explain why they died.

If I read any updates on the immunity tests I will let you know. Take Care.
we have a semi neighbor that works for the public health dept and we met for a social distance dog walk yesterday and she couldn't answer it either. stay safe!!
 

tangerinegreen555

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So true! It’s so hard to keep on top of it all.

I Don’t know details. I did not known that there are 8 varieties , that is crazy. That complicates matters. Wish I could give you some good news but this entire ordeal is a mystery in so many ways as Dr. Fauci has admitted he doesn’t even understand this Virus, which makes things so scary. I know the numbers of everything are not accurate. Not enough Testing at all. Now Covid 19 is known to cause never seen before clotting causing strokes and heart attacks and is creating associations with so many deaths. No one knows enough about it at this point. People with no health problems are dying . It does not fit the classical patterns. Hopefully there will be some clarification and understanding very soon. I am very disgusted at this point and feel completely betrayed and upset that our leaders are so stupid and have let this become the slowest and most ill prepared health crisis. We will never know for certain how many deaths were associated with this Virus. For instance the cancer patients that we see here at my facility who are going into hospice now and are dying daily , yes they had Cancer but are they dying because of the Cancer getting them or is it because they had gotten the Covid 19. I doubt they will autopsy the Cancer patients to figure that out. They will just call it complications to Cancer. This is just out of control. My only hope now is it fizzles out and mutates down to lower levels of toxicity. It’s like No one is safe. Anyone could have some weird genetic makeup that the Virus cling to you eat you alive and kills you. Like those 2 young 30 year old perfectly healthy men that recently died and Dr. Fauci has said he is completely baffled and can not explain why they died.

If I read any updates on the immunity tests I will let you know. Take Care.
A year from now we may know something about 19.

Now we're just guessing based on probably flawed models of previous diseases. It's pretty ugly and getting worse.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Coronavirus Pandemic Update 50: Dip in Daily New Deaths; Research on Natural Killer Cells & COVID-19
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update 50 with Roger Seheult, MD of https://www.MedCram.com There has been a drop in the number of daily new COVID-19 cases and deaths in the United States and globally - could it be the start of a trend? Dr. Seheult discusses research on the key role of natural killer cells in coronavirus infection and how interventions prior to hospitalization are critical.
 

Fogdog

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Coronavirus Pandemic Update 50: Dip in Daily New Deaths; Research on Natural Killer Cells & COVID-19
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update 50 with Roger Seheult, MD of https://www.MedCram.com There has been a drop in the number of daily new COVID-19 cases and deaths in the United States and globally - could it be the start of a trend? Dr. Seheult discusses research on the key role of natural killer cells in coronavirus infection and how interventions prior to hospitalization are critical.
I don't watch videos for information. They are difficult to fact check and the editor can change the meaning of a contributor's message by very simple editing.

How do you know if these people are reliable? "American Conservative University", who are they and where do they get their funding? Who is Roger Seheult, Associate Professor?

Why do they also have this available?

Part 3 of 3. The Truth About JFK. The Michael Medved Show.


Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God. Eric Metaxas. ACU Sunday Series.



I tried to look American Conservative University and MedCram on media bias fact check. Drew blanks.

Michael Medved is a raving right wing lunatic. What ARE you posting?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I don't watch videos for information. They are difficult to fact check and the editor can change the meaning of a contributor's message by very simple editing.

How do you know if these people are reliable? "American Conservative University", who are they and where do they get their funding? Who is Roger Seheult, Associate Professor?

Why do they also have this available?

Part 3 of 3. The Truth About JFK. The Michael Medved Show.


Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God. Eric Metaxas. ACU Sunday Series.



I tried to look American Conservative University and MedCram on media bias fact check. Drew blanks.

Michael Medved is a raving right wing lunatic. What ARE you posting?
I don't know where the good doctor works, perhaps you should email and ask, the papers he cites are in the youtube description.
You apparently spent some time on this, maybe you should have just watched the video, then you can argue with the doctor not me.

I believe the medcram videos to be accurate and have gone through some of the papers cited. Have you verified all the links you've posted?
Watch the video then comment before bothering me with questions.

Perhaps you could elaborate on the American conservative University, I never did a full "investigation" and I don't believe I need to, besides your on my thread and I'll post what I like. If you want to question the character of the Doctor, take it up with him. I never poked around looking for fault, just information.


Why do they also have this available?
I never saw that on the youtube channel, elaborate.

The medcram videos are good information by a qualified expert, cut the bullshit. Jesus you guys don't need to read my posts, just put me on ignore and stop bitching.
 

Fogdog

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so i'm intrigued by how arsenic can increase the efficacay of chinese medicine. you got a few minutes to explain? :bigjoint:
here's what I know about it:

The martial arts master who died and brought Bruce Lee's character back to then-Japanese dominated China in the movie Fists of Fury was named Huo Yanjia. He was a badass near the turn of the 19th century who made his name by beating a British boxer in a fight that became symbolic of Chinese pride and honor. His story was portrayed in the movie, Fearless, by Jet Li. In the movie he's poisoned during the match. Looking up his name, there is reference of his having had health problems and a theory that he was poisoned by arsenic in the medicine he took. His death at the age of 42 seemed suspicious and the Japanese were rumored to have killed him. My analytic mind triggered on Arsenic in medicine and I went WTF? Filed this item away as trivia for to use at some boring party when I want to to get rid of a pesky nabob. Turns out that arsenic is effective at that.

Then there is a news story about arsenic poisoning from herbal remedies that were purchased in San Francisco's Chinatown. True story, it happened a few years back.

Arsenic is listed as Chinese medicine and some recent studies show it effective at reducing remission of some cancers.

The medical uses of arsenic reach back more than 2,000 years, but only recently has Western medicine embraced its surprising rise from folk cure-all to proven cancer treatment.
The January announcement of positive results in a 6-year NCI-sponsored phase III clinical trial to treat a rare form of leukemia is merely the latest in a series of kudos for arsenic's medicinal prowess. The latest study affirms that arsenic can effectively maintain remissions in acute promyelocytic leukemia (APL). But some investigators hope that arsenic could go even farther and eventually replace chemotherapy as a front-line treatment for APL.
“If you have something that will take away the potential toxicity and the potential real harm of high doses of anthracycline [chemotherapy] why not do it?” said Samuel Waxman, M.D., professor of medicine at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York and a professor consultant at Shanghai Second Medical University in China. “We're way behind on this.”
While arsenic has had its greatest success in APL, it is also being tested in a variety of other cancers. There are 17 ongoing clinical trials in the United States testing arsenic trioxide to treat various forms of leukemia and cancers of the central nervous system and brain, according to the National Institutes of Health Web site http://www.clinicaltrials.gov . And many more trials are planned or under way in Europe and China.



So, of course Arsenic is great for treating Coronavirus. I mean, if it's good for treating cancer, then wow that means it's great. What the hell do you have to lose?
 

Fogdog

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I don't know where the good doctor works, perhaps you should email and ask, the papers he cites are in the youtube description.
You apparently spent some time on this, maybe you should have just watched the video, then you can argue with the doctor not me.

I believe the medcram videos to be accurate and have gone through some of the papers cited. Have you verified all the links you've posted?
Watch the video then comment before bothering me with questions.

Perhaps you could elaborate on the American conservative University, I never did a full "investigation" and I don't believe I need to, besides your on my thread and I'll post what I like. If you want to question the character of the Doctor, take it up with him. I never poked around looking for fault, just information.


Why do they also have this available?
I never saw that on the youtube channel, elaborate.

The medcram videos are good information by a qualified expert, cut the bullshit. Jesus you guys don't need to read my posts, just put me on ignore and stop bitching.
They post right wing propaganda. Source is not to be trusted. Your uninformed opinion is irrelevant.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They post right wing propaganda. Source is not to be trusted. Your uninformed opinion is irrelevant.
So is your foggy, and I'm paying less attention to it all the time. I never hunted through the site and just because someone links to the epoch times on his channel does not mean much. He does nor do the technical work from what I can gather from his comments, he has others do the posting, perhaps they were a fan. It's the information and its value that you ignored in search of faults that disgusts me most.
 

Fogdog

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So is your foggy, and I'm paying less attention to it all the time. I never hunted through the site and just because someone links to the epoch times on his channel does not mean much. He does nor do the technical work from what I can gather from his comments, he has others do the posting, perhaps they were a fan. It's the information and its value that you ignored in search of faults that disgusts me most.
Hey, I already said you post random shit and there is nothing I can or will do about it.

How about arsenic? ever try it? You'll try anything. I'm not recommending it but check it out.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They post right wing propaganda. Source is not to be trusted. Your uninformed opinion is irrelevant.
From his YouTube channel
MedCram
Thank you for supporting our COVID-19 video updates by subscribing to this channel, and visiting us at https://www.MedCram.com At our website, you can view all of our videos and CLEAR explanations of over 60 medical topics. We also offer CME/CEUs for medical professionals and work with medical programs, hospitals, and institutions.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Hey, I already said you post random shit and there is nothing I can or will do about it.

How about arsenic? ever try it? You'll try anything. I'm not recommending it but check it out.
I never mentioned arsenic, why do you? I don't have much use for chinese medicine, why are you interested in such an esoteric subject?
Perhaps you are trying to lump me in with others?
I stick pretty much to science and what I post on the subject is usually evidence based, like the medcram videos.
 

Fogdog

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From his YouTube channel
MedCram
Thank you for supporting our COVID-19 video updates by subscribing to this channel, and visiting us at https://www.MedCram.com At our website, you can view all of our videos and CLEAR explanations of over 60 medical topics. We also offer CME/CEUs for medical professionals and work with medical programs, hospitals, and institutions.
OK, so you go right ahead and post stuff that comes from a right wing propaganda site.

I'll just reiterate. MedCram is accessed through a media website that promotes right wing propaganda. Anything coming from that site is suspect.
 
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