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Now look, if you are going to bring 1000W HPS and 1000W LED, the LED is going to cream the HPS, probably by more than your 30%
The problem is that there are a ton of shitty LED lights that muddy the water.The jury dosent seem to be out on led vs hps then i guess. A more mutual concensus would be nice but seeing that too much confusion exists means that there are obvious issues in settling the debate that have yet to be worked out.
This.The problem is that there are a ton of shitty LED lights that muddy the water.
The problem is that there are a ton of shitty LED lights that muddy the water.
yes but we know what the good LED boards can do, we know most of their specs, output spectrum luminosity.... and the math is clear: LED converts electricity more efficiently into light than everything else, and this is why the industry develops this technology further.The problem is that there are a ton of shitty LED lights that muddy the water.
CFL grows create one hell of a quality bud + healthy plant because of the tremendously big light areal.If cfl were trying to outdo a hps it would be clear cut but even with claims of over 30% increase to be having this debate seems strange as if there is some problem
yes but we know what the good LED boards can do, we know most of their specs, output spectrum luminosity.... and the math is clear: LED converts electricity more efficiently into light than everything else, and this is why the industry develops this technology further.
CFL grows create one hell of a quality bud + healthy plant because of the tremendously big light areal.
its also because a CFL touches a much broader spectrum than HPS, and plants react to that. Food plants get more healthy.Are they done yet? What does "done" look like?
How many times does are they done get posted? I figured I'd post a done pic so growers could see what it looks like Patience is key :)www.rollitup.org
HPS is a good flower inducer & massbuilder, and has FR & (too much) IR. But even S-HPS lacks alot of green, cyan, blue, near UV, UVA, UVB.
at least, add a MH or CMH to it.
True That!If you get the right product maybe. I think I have a good one and very happy with results so far, the guy who did mine estimates his 750W draw LED is equivalent to a 1000W HPS (more realistic than most LED claims out there). Like I said I prefer LED but people have been producing very high quality bud under HPS for donkeys years and will continue to do so.
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Hu?No even more confusion as if your plants werent so frazzled id expect that to be a full 70% and over and whatever you love the most that stupid numbers.
It's just a lot of work up until flower...but I love growing big plants!daymn, i miss scrog
stopped right there - who's defending blurples here? (strawman-fallacy)Blurples
stopped right there - who's defending blurples here? (strawman-fallacy)
you talk the same uninformed shit like Kingrow1.
I probably would use HLG if my space allowed. The heat and vertical restriction is the only problem for me . Plus I'm doing mine in large hydro reservoirs so the heat makes the humidity that much worse with transpiration. I saw the 650r-spec in action the other day and I think I can confidently say there's not a light that can compete with that thing if... someone has the height and cooling effort it would require. I was in a room with 2 and it was like looking at the anus of the sun. Interstellar Batman could use one of those things to cast his call sign from planet to planet. I had to readjust my eyes to walk into the full noon sun.Put a fan over your LED rig and you’re gonna potentially run into too cool of a tent with summer AC on. For real. The heat got me out of HPS as did the power consumption. Went with HLG and haven’t looked back since. They produce great.
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I probably would use HLG if my space allowed. The heat and vertical restriction is the only problem for me . Plus I'm doing mine in large hydro reservoirs so the heat makes the humidity that much worse with transpiration. I saw the 650r-spec in action the other day and I think I can confidently say there's not a light that can compete with that thing if... someone has the height and cooling effort it would require. I was in a room with 2 and it was like looking at the anus of the sun. Interstellar Batman could use one of those things to cast his call sign from planet to planet. I had to readjust my eyes to walk into the full noon sun.
I get what you're saying, don't think I'm misunderstanding the concept. The purpose of a heat sink is to offset the amount of heat that an LED is putting out by transferring the heat to the heat sink. Yes? The more efficient the heat sink, the lower the ambient temp will be in the tent/room because it is dissipating heat at a slower rate - since the heat sink is more efficient. Tell me if I'm wrong here.Again I would just like to point out that the heat, as in a flir test or ir gun on the back of the LED only shows how efficient the heat sink is, as in its either minimal or maxed out. It doesn't change the amount of heat the light is putting out.
Its like an air cooled light would look cooler under flir camera but if you don't have a duct taking the hot air out the heat output is the same in the room.
So your idea that you cant run a HLG is based on misunderstanding.
It will put out the same heat as any other LED of the same wattage and efficiency.
THERE ARE MANY MORE BRANDS OF LED and I don't care which you buy, just your misunderstanding the concept.