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Laughing Grass

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I'd prefer Steve "blow" Jobs, on the other side

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Well Steve is dead and Tim is gay. Toothy skeleton vs. someone who's into it...

Rather build my own for that much money, heck prolly can get at least 2 to 3 systems mix in OS , and graphic design software...be a killer system for me anyways.
Can you put osx on a white box computer? I don't think I've ever seen it running on anything other than apple hardware.

$20,000 Canadian dollars, what is that now, like $700 USD?
lol closer to 15K. The Canadian dollar has almost returned to pre covid value. If things in the US continue on their current trajectory, I wouldn't be surprised to see dollar parity in 2021 and a move to the Euro as the pegging currency.
 

curious2garden

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those new iMacs are nuts. Almost $20,000 cad for a top tier pro. I’d love to have one tho. I can’t see anyone paying that much.

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Yeah they are expensive but worth it in niche situations. Mine is not that LOL. My son does Machine Vision so I could see him using a system like that but for me an upper end off the shelf with 2 TB SSD 3500 was what I ordered. It should arrive around my birthday. Realistically my machine is 11 years old now. She's served me well and I'm stepping her down to my husband who will use it minimally. But it's 27" will be easier on his eyes.

Get that ME degree and your shop will likely be willing to buy you any machine you wish to work on ;D
 

curious2garden

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Can you put osx on a white box computer? I don't think I've ever seen it running on anything other than apple hardware.
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Probably, google Hackintosh. I thought about it. But I'm retired now and I just don't feel like putting that level of energy into maintaining an OS. Because even if you are a coder you have to rely on a team of other hackers along with you to keep it working and it's always behind known security exploits. Awhile ago when I was working I had to have the official OS for the obvious reasons. Now I could dabble but I'm not interested. Let me know if you choose to try it out.

Today Apple Hardware is simply off the shelf hardware in known configurations and purchased in large lots. It's not like their old hardware which was actually their own hardware. So you can run any of the *nix bases on an intel processor but you have know how to overcome their hardware checks. I'm running an OS beyond what my hardware is allowed to run because I took the time to ferret out the check and alter it. But this OS is at my machine's limit.
 

dbz

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Probably, google Hackintosh. I thought about it. But I'm retired now and I just don't feel like putting that level of energy into maintaining an OS. Because even if you are a coder you have to rely on a team of other hackers along with you to keep it working and it's always behind known security exploits. Awhile ago when I was working I had to have the official OS for the obvious reasons. Now I could dabble but I'm not interested. Let me know if you choose to try it out.

Today Apple Hardware is simply off the shelf hardware in known configurations and purchased in large lots. It's not like their old hardware which was actually their own hardware. So you can run any of the *nix bases on an intel processor but you have know how to overcome their hardware checks. I'm running an OS beyond what my hardware is allowed to run because I took the time to ferret out the check and alter it. But this OS is at my machine's limit.
I would never put OSX on anything anyways personally. If I want to play games Windows is going on it, if I use it for work I'll probably use a Linux distro.

I am going to have to do some upgrades soon myself, waiting for the 3080 TI20200729_150218.jpg
 

curious2garden

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I would never put OSX on anything anyways personally. If I want to play games Windows is going on it, if I use it for work I'll probably use a Linux distro.

I am going to have to do some upgrades soon myself, waiting for the 3080 TIView attachment 4640187
OS X is based on the BSD codebase. I run Fedora on my router and have run it since my MSCS days when our labs ran RedHat 5.2. I run all the major OSes and have been paid handsomely for it. My Microsoft and *nix all run on machines I've built myself. These are tools. Therefore I don't bother with prejudice based on OS, machine hardware or language. They all have their niche.

I'm glad you have found machines that work for you and fit your intended use.
 

Laughing Grass

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Yeah they are expensive but worth it in niche situations. Mine is not that LOL. My son does Machine Vision so I could see him using a system like that but for me an upper end off the shelf with 2 TB SSD 3500 was what I ordered. It should arrive around my birthday. Realistically my machine is 11 years old now. She's served me well and I'm stepping her down to my husband who will use it minimally. But it's 27" will be easier on his eyes.

Get that ME degree and your shop will likely be willing to buy you any machine you wish to work on ;D
11 years and still running, crazy. My 2014 macbook pro gave up the ghost this spring so my dad bought me a macbook air which has less memory and processor mhz but for some reason it's way faster than the old one. I do miss the 15" screen though. Once you give this to your husband are you done with osx?

Maybe someday on the ME degree lol.

Probably, google Hackintosh. I thought about it. But I'm retired now and I just don't feel like putting that level of energy into maintaining an OS. Because even if you are a coder you have to rely on a team of other hackers along with you to keep it working and it's always behind known security exploits. Awhile ago when I was working I had to have the official OS for the obvious reasons. Now I could dabble but I'm not interested. Let me know if you choose to try it out.

Today Apple Hardware is simply off the shelf hardware in known configurations and purchased in large lots. It's not like their old hardware which was actually their own hardware. So you can run any of the *nix bases on an intel processor but you have know how to overcome their hardware checks. I'm running an OS beyond what my hardware is allowed to run because I took the time to ferret out the check and alter it. But this OS is at my machine's limit.
That's probably not for me. I just want a computer that's going to work without without headaches. I saw that apple is switching from intel in favor of their own processors.


I would never put OSX on anything anyways personally. If I want to play games Windows is going on it, if I use it for work I'll probably use a Linux distro.

I am going to have to do some upgrades soon myself, waiting for the 3080 TIView attachment 4640187
I don't play video games. I mainly use adobe creative suite, ZBrush and Tinkercad. ZBrush only runs on osx. I have an older HP tablet that runs crestron and sonos apps but it's likely too old to do much of anything else.
 

dbz

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OS X is based on the BSD codebase. I run Fedora on my router and have run it since my MSCS days when our labs ran RedHat 5.2. I run all the major OSes and have been paid handsomely for it. My Microsoft and *nix all run on machines I've built myself. These are tools. Therefore I don't bother with prejudice based on OS, machine hardware or language. They all have their niche.
For me it isn't prejudice. I am aware of it being based off BSD. If I were a graphic designer I might would feel differently. I like to game, but gaming largely caters to Windows.
I have run Linux my whole life. Too much engineer in me to run locked down versions of it. I have Arch on most of my boxes at home. A little CentOS and Debian...mostly Debian at work except a few hyper-coverged clusters that run Windows server OS's and sync with Azure.

I am not the average user though. it is fortunately an occupation I enjoy. I run mostly Cisco routers although now I use pfSense most of the time on firewalls. Did this when started getting into 10 Gbps connections..been a whole lot cheaper.
 
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curious2garden

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11 years and still running, crazy. My 2014 macbook pro gave up the ghost this spring so my dad bought me a macbook air which has less memory and processor mhz but for some reason it's way faster than the old one. I do miss the 15" screen though. Once you give this to your husband are you done with osx?

Maybe someday on the ME degree lol.



That's probably not for me. I just want a computer that's going to work without without headaches. I saw that apple is switching from intel in favor of their own processors.




I don't play video games. I mainly use adobe creative suite, ZBrush and Tinkercad. ZBrush only runs on osx. I have an older HP tablet that runs crestron and sonos apps but it's likely too old to do much of anything else.
I have a $3500 iMac OTW lol I’m to broke to be done with them. It’s a good OS
 

curious2garden

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For me it isn't prejudice. I am aware of it being based off BSD. If I were a graphic designer I might would feel differently. I like to game, but gaming largely caters to Windows.
I have run Linux my whole life. Too much engineer in me to run locked down versions of it. I have Arch on most of my boxes at home. A little CentOS and Debian...mostly Debian at work except a few hyper-coverged clusters that run Windows server OS's and sync with Azure.

I am not the average user though. I have been paid handsomely as well for it over the years, it is fortunately an occupation I enjoy. I run mostly Cisco routers although now I use pfSense most of the time on firewalls. Did this when started getting into 10 Gbps connections..been a whole lot cheaper.
Nice what type of engineering do you do? I came to it later in life.
 

dbz

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Most of my education is self taught, I got a CCNA, MCSE, MCSA early then eventually a CCDE and a couple more. Got my MCSE at 18 and never looked back
By the by there is nothing wrong with the mac OS just for me its overpriced and a bit restrictive. For an average user it is an excellent experience.
 

curious2garden

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Most of my education is self taught, I got a CCNA, MCSE, MCSA early then eventually a CCDE and a couple more. Got my MCSE at 18 and never looked back
By the by there is nothing wrong with the mac OS just for me its overpriced and a bit restrictive. For an average user it is an excellent experience.
Nothing wrong with being self-taught. When I began none of those certifications existed so it was a Masters in Computer Science for me and that was relatively new. I put myself through my MSCS working with an online company.

My son chose the traditional route and got a Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering from Stanford. He and almost his entire group at Google run on Macs as did most of the guys I worked with. Since we could have chosen whatever we wanted I guess we didn't find them limiting. We also ran MS Windows and other OSes too.

Anyway enjoy your job that's all that matters and whatever hardware you prefer, vive la différence.
Welcome to RIU
 

curious2garden

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Oh wow I misunderstood and thought you ordered a new hard drive. I’m excited for you!
Thanks, I'm looking forward to it. Did you find out what went wrong with your old Mac? I've replaced my hard drive and added ram to my Macbook Pro and it's pretty easy. Matter of fact I'm going to add an SSD to it too. If it's something simple it might be worth a fix and you're pretty handy.
 
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