Should racism be accepted if......

[BurtMaklin]

I think you are looking at something that happened in a philosophy or some other social science field and extrapolating it out to suit what you feel about higher education. You act like some obscure paper is being taught as truth in a entry level college course and not the nuts and bolts of that field to open up how people think critically about the topics.

And 'Satire' is not submitting papers over and over again until you can make enough changes that you can eventually trick your paper into getting published, so that they could build a career attacking academia, that is trolling. You are ignoring that they did this as a ideological stunt and are using their results as 'proof'. Just like whatever that right wing troll who went into a bunch of planned parenthoods to film them to make them look bad after ignoring all the times that their troll failed.

I see you ignored the part that I was showing you how much of political stooges the math guy is when he capitulated instantly after correctly identifying structural racism in our society when the youtube host said that isn't racism. That is the problem with what you are saying is the case, that these are 'proof' of anything, they are evidence, I can buy that. I don't have a issue with critically taking a look at the soft sciences, I am a STEM guy myself and am pretty confident I can bullshit a paper into publication if I had the inclination to be that unethical. Which I do not.

Also it is not about 'pride' that I don't listen to the Joe Rogan podcasts. I won't let his or Dana White's political bullshit to ruin a sport for me that I care a lot about because they decided to wade into the political placating of the MAGA crowd.

White grievance is mostly bullshit, unless you step up and start to admit the attack on our society that is currently being conducted by the Russian military. Do you see a lot of lowest common denominator training of people to be called 'racist' or to snowflake when being called 'racist', yes of course.

Does the online trolling make its way into real life all too often, and become a cudgel to end conversations? Of course it does. That was the intention. And it worked beautifully for Trump and Putin, and our worlds vulnerable to the hateful messaging by the Russian military online fell for it hard.

Does any of this take away from the very real prejudices and racism that women, minority, and non-heterosexual people in our nation have faced? Not in the least, and deciding you can dismiss entire fields of actual study because a couple well educated trolls is just willful ignorance.

No, submitting papers that are utterly ridiculous in premise and provide bogus evidence should be easily outed as trash, because they are. We can agree to disagree.

 

[hanimmal]

No, submitting papers that are utterly ridiculous in premise and provide bogus evidence should be easily outed as trash, because they are. We can agree to disagree.

That is why they submitted them to mostly garbage publications when the better journals spit them out.

They lied about their data, they are frauds trolling academia.

 

[zeddd]

No, submitting papers that are utterly ridiculous in premise and provide bogus evidence should be easily outed as trash, because they are. We can agree to disagree.

It’s completely unethical to forge academic papers and then submit them, it’s not funny or clever as it undermines everyone’s education. If you have the educational wherewithal to produce material for peer review it means you have benefited from the education which allows you to do so. These people have the ethical compass of Mr Ponzi. To do this to promote the bro science of the likes of Rogan is laughable.

 

[BurtMaklin]

It’s completely unethical to forge academic papers and then submit them, it’s not funny or clever as it undermines everyone’s education. If you have the educational wherewithal to produce material for peer review it means you have benefited from the education which allows you to do so. These people have the ethical compass of Mr Ponzi. To do this to promote the bro science of the likes of Rogan is laughable.

No, what's laughable is your refusal to admit the the peer review process has been corrupted by ideology, and language is being used to identify and promote that ideology as verified information, when in actuality it's idea laundering. Trash and pseudoscience backed up by trash and pseudoscience diluting information to nothing but unsubstantiated conjecture and theory bagged as evidence.

For fuck sakes, they didn't even check to see if the information came from a real person. Just pushed it through because it validates their ideology and narrative and gave them a participation award. They look stupid, and so do you for defending them. Sour grapes I guess.

 

[BurtMaklin]

Goddamm

New Discourses is an amazing trove of right wing propaganda. Who is paying for that site? You can bet it's not from subscribers. It's huge.

It doesn't matter how many words are on that website, You can't gaslight racism and the effects it has on people. Anybody who believes that shit is living in somebody's basement.

from "the Woke Breaking point:
For a close friend of mine, who is quite Woke still but not at all “all in,” we had to go quite far to find an absolute line. He has one. Should I, or other people he’s close to and knows don’t deserve it, get doxxed or start receiving credible death threats for standing up to Wokeness, that will apparently do it (does anybody deserve this, though?). Seems a little extreme to me that my own life would have to be on the line before he’d think surely this is getting out of hand, but at least he has a line. At least he’s thinking about it.

Uh, ya, woke people are so dangerous, they just might want to talk you off the edge.

The people who are ganging up and putting people in fear of their lives are white supremacist terrorists. It was a white cop's knee on Floyd's neck. Proud Boys are white and they came to Portland to beat people that oppose their brand of fascism. Real world, not the fake BS that Burt reads and then spews here. Elsewhere too. What a nutjob.

Shut up liar.

Everything is right of far left fuckery. That's not an argument. Try again.

 

[zeddd]

No, what's laughable is your refusal to admit the the peer review process has been corrupted by ideology, and language is being used to identify and promote that ideology as verified information, when in actuality it's idea laundering. Trash and pseudoscience backed up by trash and pseudoscience diluting information to nothing but unsubstantiated conjecture and theory bagged as evidence.

For fuck sakes, they didn't even check to see if the information came from a real person. Just pushed it through because it validates their ideology and narrative and gave them a participation award. They look stupid, and so do you for defending them. Sour grapes I guess.

Joe Rogan, lulz

 

[BurtMaklin]

Joe Rogan, lulz

Hoaxers Slip Breastaurants and Dog-Park Sex Into Journals (Published 2018)

Three academics tested a theory about the intellectual integrity of peer-reviewed “grievance studies” by cooking up, and publishing, their own.

www.google.ca

Lulz

 

[bundee1]

Shut up liar.

Everything is right of far left fuckery. That's not an argument. Try again.

You're a transparent troll with no point to make. Let me boil down Joe Rogan's argument for you. I can't tell some of the cheap thoughtless jokes I used to be able to tell so wah, Free Speech. I want to make room for racist and closeted righties in the name of free speech so I can tell more lame jokes. The difference between Dave Chappelle's jokes about cancel culture and Joe Rogan's is that Dave Chappelle can make his point without dog whistling racists. Now go have "dinner" with your "daddy".

 

[hanimmal]

No, what's laughable is your refusal to admit the the peer review process has been corrupted by ideology, and language is being used to identify and promote that ideology as verified information, when in actuality it's idea laundering. Trash and pseudoscience backed up by trash and pseudoscience diluting information to nothing but unsubstantiated conjecture and theory bagged as evidence.

For fuck sakes, they didn't even check to see if the information came from a real person. Just pushed it through because it validates their ideology and narrative and gave them a participation award. They look stupid, and so do you for defending them. Sour grapes I guess.

Can two things be true at once?

I dont disagree that the bottom of the barrel 'peer review' journals that those academia trolls duped into publishing their propaganda articles do exist, and that they are highlighting a big problem with how information is slowed down to a chokepoint. But it doesn't mean that entire fields are bullshit because of these journals.

Especially when these two guys are going as far as fabricating data to get those bullshit articles they wrote published.

You have to really want to believe if your willing to take the side of the people actively lying and making up data in order to troll science. Because you know for a fact that those guys are admitted liars who are paid to con these journals in order to troll science.

It's essentially a foundation to push anti-vaxxer nonsense. Just another tool for Putin to sow chaos like he is doing now with his 'cure'.

 

[Fogdog]

Trump does the same thing as Burt.

Can two things be true at once?

I don't disagree that the bottom of the barrel 'peer review' journals that those academia trolls duped into publishing their propaganda articles do exist, and that they are highlighting a big problem with how information is slowed down to a chokepoint. But it doesn't mean that entire fields are bullshit because of these journals.

Especially when these two guys are going as far as fabricating data to get those bullshit articles they wrote published.

You have to really want to believe if your willing to take the side of the people actively lying and making up data in order to troll science. Because you know for a fact that those guys are admitted liars who are paid to con these journals in order to troll science.

It's essentially a foundation to push anti-vaxxer nonsense. Just another tool for Putin to sow chaos like he is doing now with his 'cure'.

But those are the only articles they can find that confirms their bias.

 

[hanimmal]

Trump does the same thing as Burt.

@viLe

But those are the only articles they can find that confirms their bias.

Well that is why the right wing billionaire had to pay to get them written, and then keep paying for them to be rewritten enough times to actually get them published in second rate journals.

I guess when you get to barely get taxed spending millions for junk science is cost effective.

 

[Fogdog]

Well that is why the right wing billionaire had to pay to get them written, and then keep paying for them to be rewritten enough times to actually get them published in second rate journals.

I guess when you get to barely get taxed spending millions for junk science is cost effective.

Burt's favorite source of propaganda is pushing civil war.

Truly disgusting.

Did you figure out where the funding for that site comes from?

I pulled up a few articles and it seems that a lot of their content is aggregated from other sites. One that I looked at came from Medium. The author hid behind a pen name. The site Burt likes is new and not fact checked yet.

I put Burt on ignore when he started just saying bullshit to me. The best was when he repeatedly called me out as privileged because my mother was benefiting from the Medicare program. You can't argue with stupid. Nothing useful there. And now, Burt is getting hooked on alt right propaganda that sells the idea of white genocide as something real.

@codster25 , @VILEPLUME @DIY-HP-LED @OldMedUser

Are you guys fearful that your white privilege is being attacked by "woke culture"? lulz Too funny that.

 

[hanimmal]

Burt's favorite source of propaganda is pushing civil war.

Truly disgusting.

Did you figure out where the funding for that site comes from?

I pulled up a few articles and it seems that a lot of their content is aggregated from other sites. One that I looked at came from Medium. The author hid behind a pen name. The site Burt likes is new and not fact checked yet.

I put Burt on ignore when he started just saying bullshit to me. The best was when he repeatedly called me out as privileged because my mother was benefiting from the Medicare program. You can't argue with stupid. Nothing useful there. And now, Burt is getting hooked on alt right propaganda that sells the idea of white genocide as something real.

@codster25 , @VILEPLUME @DIY-HP-LED @OldMedUser

Are you guys fearful that your white privilege is being attacked by "woke culture"? lulz Too funny that.

No I read in the politico article (I think) he wouldn't divulge his funding, that was the only thing I found mention of it. It might be worth pulling those threads.

 

[Fogdog]

No I read in the politico article (I think) he wouldn't divulge his funding, that was the only thing I found mention of it. It might be worth pulling those threads.

It's an aggregator of articles posted elsewhere. Pretty cheap to put something like that together. There are probably many of the same out there.

Medium was one of the sources for an article about how white people are being attacked by woke culture, making the case for civil war. Medium itself has a moderate left bias and mixed rating for accuracy. People like Burt are just echoing crap that's not even worth use as fertilizer. After looking through his favorite site, it's pretty clear that the content is intended to radicalize white basement dwellers.

Where do you think this ends? Let me submit to you all; if we let this force of destruction into our courts, we are lost. The only thing left after honest conversation between reasonable people, is violence between savages. We are on a collision course with civil war. And all we have to do to get there is nothing.

 

[Fogdog]

goddamn @BurtMaklin

Do you believe this shit?

We are in the West fast approaching the precipice of a civilizational collapse. Exactly how far out we are from this precipice is a matter to debate. But, our speed and direction of travel are very clear.

I say this apocalyptically. But not, I think, hyperbolically. For, there has been incubating, growing, and spreading in the West for several decades a mental cancer bent on breaking down and destroying the basic logic of civilization — bent on destroying truth and reason, individualism and freedom.

The picture at the beginning of the article should tell any sane person that you are reading propaganda.



The burnt trees, broken buildings and shattered Washington monument. Jeez, man, what a tool

Do not reply to my post. This post was created for consumption by thinking adults. You are still on ignore, ignoramus.

 

[BurtMaklin]

goddamn @BurtMaklin

Do you believe this shit?

We are in the West fast approaching the precipice of a civilizational collapse. Exactly how far out we are from this precipice is a matter to debate. But, our speed and direction of travel are very clear.

I say this apocalyptically. But not, I think, hyperbolically. For, there has been incubating, growing, and spreading in the West for several decades a mental cancer bent on breaking down and destroying the basic logic of civilization — bent on destroying truth and reason, individualism and freedom.

The picture at the beginning of the article should tell any sane person that you are reading propaganda.

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The burnt trees, broken buildings and shattered Washington monument. Jeez, man, what a tool

Do not reply to my post. This post was created for consumption by thinking adults. You are still on ignore, ignoramus.

Looks like parts of Portland to me.

 

[zeddd]

Hoaxers Slip Breastaurants and Dog-Park Sex Into Journals (Published 2018)

Three academics tested a theory about the intellectual integrity of peer-reviewed “grievance studies” by cooking up, and publishing, their own.

www.google.ca

Lulz

You tool, if someone passed you a fake £100 bill are they wrong for doing it or are you a fool for being duped in good faith?

 

[BurtMaklin]

It's an aggregator of articles posted elsewhere. Pretty cheap to put something like that together. There are probably many of the same out there.

Medium was one of the sources for an article about how white people are being attacked by woke culture, making the case for civil war. Medium itself has a moderate left bias and mixed rating for accuracy. People like Burt are just echoing crap that's not even worth use as fertilizer. After looking through his favorite site, it's pretty clear that the content is intended to radicalize white basement dwellers.

Where do you think this ends? Let me submit to you all; if we let this force of destruction into our courts, we are lost. The only thing left after honest conversation between reasonable people, is violence between savages. We are on a collision course with civil war. And all we have to do to get there is nothing.

By someone like me you mean a firmly left progressive that is willing to admit there are problems with a left that continues to radicalize itself? Someone who supports UBI, socialized education, healthcare and childcare, the very things you rail against because "i'm healthy, why should I pay more for healthcare, because fat people" and "we can't afford it". Well it seems to me that as you gather steam while approaching a cliff, you can't afford not to.

You've been exposed as a liar and a hypocrite.

Don't reply to this post, lol

 

[BurtMaklin]

You tool, if someone passed you a fake £100 bill are they wrong for doing it or are you a fool for being duped in good faith?

Both, everyone verifies a hundred. Everyone.

 

[BurtMaklin]

Must be a slow day of trolling if fogdog is replying to little ol me.