So whats a MAGAs excuse for believing Trump won?
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DIY-HP-LED
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Proud Boys Member Threatens Armed Revolt Outside Giuliani Meeting: 'Not Going to Stand Back and Stand By Anymore' (newsweek.com)
Proud Boys Member Threatens Armed Revolt Outside Giuliani Meeting: 'Not Going to Stand Back and Stand By Anymore'
member of the Proud Boys threatened an armed revolt during a "Stop the Steal" rally in Phoenix, Arizona on Monday as President Donald Trump continues to push unverified claims of widespread voter fraud in an attempt to reverse his election defeat.
Pro-Trump protests have broken out in numerous states, with demonstrators demanding a recount of votes following President-elect Joe Biden's win. Since the group's founding in 2016, several Proud Boys members have been convicted of violent crimes in their efforts to fight the left and support Trump's conservative agenda. During the first presidential debate in Ohio, the president told the group to "stand back and stand by" when asked by the moderator to condemn white supremacists and militia groups.
The Proud Boys, who viewed Trump's comment as support, celebrated on social media afterward as the president faced intense backlash, with critics accusing him of rhetoric that encourages violence. As Trump's chances of overturning the election continues to diminish, one member on Monday urged the group to "fight back" against the rigged election and Democratic COVID restrictions.
Speaking at the rally in Phoenix, Arizona—taking place outside of where Rudy Giuliani was meeting with GOP lawmakers to cast doubt on Trump's loss in the state—one member told the crowd, "It is the moment that we've got to fight back."
"At the moment, we're free. But the moment they start trying to take our Constitution is the moment the Second Amendment kicks in," he said. "It's the moment where we've got to start telling them, we're not taking it anymore.
"We're not going to 'stand back and stand by' anymore. We're standing up and going after you if you come after us," the man added.
Proud Boys Member Threatens Armed Revolt Outside Giuliani Meeting: 'Not Going to Stand Back and Stand By Anymore'
member of the Proud Boys threatened an armed revolt during a "Stop the Steal" rally in Phoenix, Arizona on Monday as President Donald Trump continues to push unverified claims of widespread voter fraud in an attempt to reverse his election defeat.
Pro-Trump protests have broken out in numerous states, with demonstrators demanding a recount of votes following President-elect Joe Biden's win. Since the group's founding in 2016, several Proud Boys members have been convicted of violent crimes in their efforts to fight the left and support Trump's conservative agenda. During the first presidential debate in Ohio, the president told the group to "stand back and stand by" when asked by the moderator to condemn white supremacists and militia groups.
The Proud Boys, who viewed Trump's comment as support, celebrated on social media afterward as the president faced intense backlash, with critics accusing him of rhetoric that encourages violence. As Trump's chances of overturning the election continues to diminish, one member on Monday urged the group to "fight back" against the rigged election and Democratic COVID restrictions.
Speaking at the rally in Phoenix, Arizona—taking place outside of where Rudy Giuliani was meeting with GOP lawmakers to cast doubt on Trump's loss in the state—one member told the crowd, "It is the moment that we've got to fight back."
"At the moment, we're free. But the moment they start trying to take our Constitution is the moment the Second Amendment kicks in," he said. "It's the moment where we've got to start telling them, we're not taking it anymore.
"We're not going to 'stand back and stand by' anymore. We're standing up and going after you if you come after us," the man added.
Mr_X
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This is why i stopped wearing a mask.
DCcan
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Fear or admiration of Proud Boys? Maybe both?
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blu3bird
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I'm tired of reading bullshit from Twitter, it's not news or fact of anything. Goddamnit, Trump uses Twitter and that should tell you everything you need to know about it
I'm so tired of seeing "news article" with links to any social media - Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, Tiktok and Instagram, all of it is straight up garbage. It's lazy ass journalism to report or run a story about what someone else said on social media, it's fucking stupid. I don't give a shit what someone said on social media. I want REAL LIFE news, not he said she said bullshit hyperbole. Maybe my expectations are just too high? I feel like society has been reduced to a child's mentality when I see that shit
Social media and "news" with links to social media is for people with a grade school mentality, it's what I'd expect from teenage girls
*I don't mean to single you out DIY or that particular post, so don't take it that way. It's just an example of the point I'm making or at least trying to make
I think social media should be destroyed, outlawed, and banned. Yeah, maybe I have a tyrannical or fascist streak in me. I don't care and that's my final answer. I have no respect for any "journalist" or "news" that runs an article based off social media
DIY-HP-LED
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It's a medium and as such it carries news and will continue to long after Trump. I prefer reputable journalistic sources myself and if you read my posts, I advocate social media regulation, over a certain size they should be treated as broadcasters. Unfortunately we can't turn back the clock, we just haven't figured out how to manage it properly. The guy said what he said on video and if anybody posts something I figure will hurt Trump or counter his bullshit I'll post it. These days cellphones provide much of the video for the news, most of it does positive things and records injustice. Trump fires people and announces major policies on twitter, I expect he would declare war using twitter if he could.
I too have a low opinion of social media and want to see the larger outfits regulated by the FCC, along with cable TV and I figure the AM broadcast band should go digital, silencing the serpents voice in millions of half tons. I live in Canada, but this shit is on the internet and is a pernicious influence through out the English speaking world. In America you have radio and TV stations dedicated to this horseshit and they spoon feed millions of morons this shit daily.
printer
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You are also a selfish fool?
printer
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Krebs doubles down after threat: '2020 election was most secure in US history'
The ousted head of cybersecurity for the U.S. said he stands by his determination that the 2020 election was the most secure in the nation’s history.
In an op-ed for The Washington Post published after a Trump campaign lawyer said he should be shot, Christopher Krebs wrote about specific efforts the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency undertook ahead of the 2020 election.
These included aiding states in the expansion of voting systems that provide paper records rather than direct recording electronic (DRE) machines, which generate no such record, he wrote. Ahead of the 2020 election, Louisiana was the only state using DRE machines.
“This point cannot be emphasized enough: The secretaries of state in Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania, as well officials in Wisconsin, all worked overtime to ensure there was a paper trail that could be audited or recounted by hand, independent of any allegedly hacked software or hardware,” Krebs added.
Krebs attributed Georgia’s ability to conduct a full hand recount of its vote to the improvements made to its election security.
“Clearly, the Georgia count was not manipulated, resoundingly debunking claims by the president and his allies about the involvement of CIA supercomputers, malicious software programs or corporate rigging aided by long-gone foreign dictators,” he wrote, referencing conspiracy theories around Dominion Voting Systems and the late Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez.
President Trump, who has not conceded and has repeatedly claimed without evidence that there was massive fraud in the election, fired Krebs shortly after Krebs pronounced the election the most secure in U.S. history. Krebs has also stood by his assessment in an interview with “60 Minutes,” saying, “We did a good job. We did it right. I’d do it a thousand times over.”
Joe diGenova, a lawyer for the Trump reelection campaign, said on “The Howie Carr Show” that Krebs should be “taken out at dawn and shot” for his comments. DiGenova has since claimed the remark was “in jest.”
Krebs suggested earlier this week that he may take legal action against diGenova for the remarks.
“We are a nation of laws, and I plan to take advantage of those laws,” Krebs told NBC’s “Today” Tuesday. “I've got an exceptional team of lawyers that win in court, and I think they're probably going to be busy.”
thehill.com
The ousted head of cybersecurity for the U.S. said he stands by his determination that the 2020 election was the most secure in the nation’s history.
In an op-ed for The Washington Post published after a Trump campaign lawyer said he should be shot, Christopher Krebs wrote about specific efforts the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency undertook ahead of the 2020 election.
These included aiding states in the expansion of voting systems that provide paper records rather than direct recording electronic (DRE) machines, which generate no such record, he wrote. Ahead of the 2020 election, Louisiana was the only state using DRE machines.
“This point cannot be emphasized enough: The secretaries of state in Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada and Pennsylvania, as well officials in Wisconsin, all worked overtime to ensure there was a paper trail that could be audited or recounted by hand, independent of any allegedly hacked software or hardware,” Krebs added.
Krebs attributed Georgia’s ability to conduct a full hand recount of its vote to the improvements made to its election security.
“Clearly, the Georgia count was not manipulated, resoundingly debunking claims by the president and his allies about the involvement of CIA supercomputers, malicious software programs or corporate rigging aided by long-gone foreign dictators,” he wrote, referencing conspiracy theories around Dominion Voting Systems and the late Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez.
President Trump, who has not conceded and has repeatedly claimed without evidence that there was massive fraud in the election, fired Krebs shortly after Krebs pronounced the election the most secure in U.S. history. Krebs has also stood by his assessment in an interview with “60 Minutes,” saying, “We did a good job. We did it right. I’d do it a thousand times over.”
Joe diGenova, a lawyer for the Trump reelection campaign, said on “The Howie Carr Show” that Krebs should be “taken out at dawn and shot” for his comments. DiGenova has since claimed the remark was “in jest.”
Krebs suggested earlier this week that he may take legal action against diGenova for the remarks.
“We are a nation of laws, and I plan to take advantage of those laws,” Krebs told NBC’s “Today” Tuesday. “I've got an exceptional team of lawyers that win in court, and I think they're probably going to be busy.”
Krebs doubles down after threat: ‘2020 election was most secure in US history’
The ousted head of cybersecurity for the U.S. said he stands by his determination that the 2020 election was the most secure in the nation’s history.In an op-ed for The Washington Post published af…
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rkymtnman
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Easier access for a Proud Boy.
Mr_X
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I actually stopped wearing a mask when i realized my deep redhat county supports someone who think its ok to return back to normal life and they too also stopped wearing a mask. i remember hearing some old lady and her friend say during mid summer, "it will be over by the election" and thats when i took off my mask and told myself fuck it i agree with redhats about corona being fake and its ok to return back to normal life.
CunningCanuk
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You’re either part of the problem or part of the solution. Guess which you are, asshole?
anomalii
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This is why we can’t have nice things. #IgnoranceIsTheNewBlack
printer
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Have you seen the figures of people in the hospital due to the virus? In September it was 35,000 with about 800 deaths a day. Yesterday it was 98,691 in hospital with 2,473 deaths. Once the Thanksgiving get together event peculates itself you will see another big jump in cases. I retired from a regional hospital, I still keep in touch with the people there. They are quite busy with the patients, converted floors into covid isolation wards. Negative air pressure, two doors with antiroom between them with magnetic locks so only one door can be open at a time. I feel sorry for the US in advance of what you have coming your way.
kovidkough
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redacted.
shit is criminal
shit is criminal
Mr_X
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i dont understand how people are willing to support someone who is anti science, anti medicine, and think its ok to go back to normal life and overwork our healthcare workers to the point where they may go through PTSD and will never see their families. when i see people cheer for that at rallies without wearing a mask, i just cringe, and think to myself fuck it im not wearing a mask. the redhats in my area will be proud i did this. congrats redhats you won.
rkymtnman
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the red hats want you to jump off a bridge. don't let them down.
hanimmal
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Lies like these are how they become willing:
You know masks help reduce your own risk?
mysunnyboy
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Probably didn’t know that
Blueberry bref
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I've worn a mask 100% of the time in public since February. I've stopped going out and mindlessly driving around because it creates unnecessary encounters with random people.
I got covid because I live in in trump country and too many mouth breathers still bring their 6 children along with their pledged cousin-wives into Walmart to buy a pack of smokes and a six pack of beer; picking their noses, finger popping their assholes, and touching everything at the self checkout stands
I'm now turning into one of those "long haul" patients. I'm on week 4 on nausea, shortness of breath, confusion, minimal energy levels, dipping blood oxygen levels the longer I stay awake, rolling fevers; I'm not "sick" anymore, covid just so thoroughly wrecked my body that it will take months to recover and there's no guarantee that I ever recover to my 30 year old self of just 6 weeks ago. I've breathed easier after running half and full marathons in my 20s than I do now after unloading groceries from my car and walking them the 15ft. into the kitchen.
Just to make sure I'm understanding this, you got peer pressured into not wearing a mask by some random idiots in your town?
mysunnyboy
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You know better wear the damn mask! You could kill me. I’m immunocompromised and have had pneumonia twice. Don’t even put my happy ass on a ventilator.