Sounds like fun, I'm looking forward to seeing it. My little ebike in the garage isn't seeing much use right now.
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mistergrafik
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Chunky Stool
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Thanks for the tip!
No luck at Harbor Freight in my area. They had signs up saying prices had gone up because of high demand -- and the shelves were completely empty.
On the bright side, rubbing alcohol is showing up in stores again...
Chunky Stool
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Goddamn those are some ugly shoes.
Singlemalt
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Check Walmart and auto part stores. I got a box of 50 at Walmart 2 weeks ago, $12 I believe. Higher price than before but.....
Thank you for saving me from saying that!Goddamn those are some ugly shoes.
Alcohol made an appearance and left. I stocked up. I hope they still have gloves after this last harvest I only have 1 box left.
Laughing Grass
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you can get a pair of loubs for the same price
DCcan
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I do some work at a shoe design center, those shoe designers have a grueling job.
They have to make the shoes themselves, try them out in the jungle gym and climbing walls installed in the workspace inside, then create a production cost sheets, all the marketing materials and ad campaign costs...them bring it to a management team to bounce it upstairs to executives.
I actually saw these Vans units still in design, and yet here they are in production. I thought it was for a crash test dummy actually
They have to make the shoes themselves, try them out in the jungle gym and climbing walls installed in the workspace inside, then create a production cost sheets, all the marketing materials and ad campaign costs...them bring it to a management team to bounce it upstairs to executives.
I actually saw these Vans units still in design, and yet here they are in production. I thought it was for a crash test dummy actually
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I grew up in Keds then Vans. I tried some Vans on the other day and they were nothing like I remembered them LOLI do some work at a shoe design center, those shoe designers have a grueling job.
They have to make the shoes themselves, try them out in the jungle gym and climbing walls installed in the workspace inside, then create a production cost sheets, all the marketing materials and ad campaign costs...them bring it to a management team to bounce it upstairs to executives.
I actually saw these Vans units still in design, and yet here they are in production. I thought it was for a crash test dummy actually
DCcan
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These outdoor apparel companies , like VF which owns Vans, North Face, etc will bring a designer from tents over to shoes, or move them to cookware if what they make sells. They will put a marketing kid in the team, make him sew, glue soles, and shoot hoops then work on the marketing angle as his part of a project.
Chunky Stool
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Funny you should mention North Face.
I got a pair of gor-tex hiking shoes at an REI 'garage sale' for $45 and was thrilled!
They looked tough but weren't.
First thing to go was the fancy shoe string loops. Broke 4 off and had to melt holes for the laces.
Then the stitching started to fail and the right shoe was no longer waterproof. (not sure why)
Got the feeling it was a V1 product that needed a lot of "tuning"...
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ChingOwn
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Ya airwalks and vans for me, production value has really gone down hill. I just wear boots or dad style New balance now..I'm getting old
My hub LOVES New Balance I exclusively wear Asics Gel Kayanos. I just got this year's pair, a jaunty black with hot pink. It seems like each year I get fewer miles out of my Kayano's than the year before. It seems like you find something good and they slowly degrade it while not lowering the price.
DarkWeb
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North face is not what it used to be. The same can be said about most of those big names.Funny you should mention North Face.
I got a pair of gor-tex hiking shoes at an REI 'garage sale' for $45 and was thrilled!
They looked tough but weren't.
First thing to go was the fancy shoe string loops. Broke 4 off and had to melt holes for the laces.
Then the stitching started to fail and the right shoe was no longer waterproof. (not sure why)
Got the feeling that it was a V1 product that needed a lot of "tuning"...
<poop emogi>
You want good hiking shoes? Try some Asolo's. I know they are not inexpensive but the last pair I had for 6 years and I am not easy on gear.
https://www.backcountry.com
Gore tex is a coating on the inside of the fabric. There are different levels of waterproofing and it does fail. Improper washing and care it can fail much quicker.
Edit: sorry about that crazy long link
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ChingOwn
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DCcan
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Yea, that's what happens when design is based on quarterly marketing projections over durability and future sales.Funny you should mention North Face.
I got a pair of gor-tex hiking shoes at an REI 'garage sale' for $45 and was thrilled!
They looked tough but weren't.
First thing to go was the fancy shoe string loops. Broke 4 off and had to melt holes for the laces.
Then the stitching started to fail and the right shoe was no longer waterproof. (not sure why)
Got the feeling it was a V1 product that needed a lot of "tuning"...
<poop emogi>
Looking at the "Story Boards" that each design team had to produce with the shoe, you could see it was about producing a package, rather than designing a shoe.
DarkWeb
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Packaging is a huge deal. And if not right can screw a bunch of stuff up that you don't think would happen. Sometimes those f-ups can be expensive. If it's over packed it can be expensive and waste room before and after the product is in it. That extra expense can really add up. If it's under packed then returns will be high. That's just looking at it as an expense.....marketing is another story. After the sale is great to get customers to come back. Just think of a bunch of peanuts........would you like that compared to custom cut foam? No if you spent good money on something you wanna see that......"you're opening your product." My FIL was a packaging designer. And that is a big part of the things I do....individual product packaging and bulk packaging for the same products.