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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Crumpetlicker said:
Do you really think it makes that much difference? Not so sure myself.
Maybe it is the best type of governance for those people, and who made you the judge of what is best for them?
Here is a little sample of what Putin has done for Russia post 2004.
"As a result of high oil prices, a rise in foreign investment, and prudent economic and fiscal policies, the Russian economy grew significantly; dramatically improving Russia's standard of living, and increasing its influence in global politics.[172] Putin's rule increased stability, while transforming Russia into an authoritarian state"
Doesn't sound to bad to me if I was Russian.
Why waste all that money on an election when everything is hunky-dory in the barnyard?
Excepting his political enemies of course who do seem to disappear a bit, more often than they should I would say.
Putin has a lot of enemies on the far-right as well, let's not forget.
Many from that side think he doesn't go anywhere near far enough when it comes to screwing the poor.
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When you start from nothing any improvement is good. The average Russian lives like shit and makes around $400/mth, soon to be $100/ mth, if they can find a job. Things will be bad in mother Russia until she shits out Vlad.
 
HGCC

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althor said:
The previous guy is shit the new guy is even more shit.

It is amazing to me idiots cant see that.

This is how standards go down... well the last guy was bad so it is ok that this guy is bad and then it is ok for the next guy to be bad... NO IT IS NOT.

We followed a shit president with an even shittier president. I dont care how bad the last guy was, it doesnt excuse the next guy being bad.

Dumbasses think if you dont support the moron Biden that makes you a Trump person. It is a really stupid person who assumes that. I have never nor will I ever cast a vote for Trump. Trump has nothing at all to do with my opinion of the current shit administration.

WE ALL DESERVE BETTER FROM THOSE WHO REPRESENT US.
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I can dig it, but really by any measure I can think of, Joe is better. It's a step in the right direction at least, changing course from where we were headed. Dumping on biden, when the opposition is who and what it is, just isnt helpful.

I dont like biden, don't dislike him, rather ambivalent really, but damn, the choice is pretty clear here and I have to look at the motivations and intentions involved when people are critical.

I use the Obama mustard/tan suit standard for discourse. Tons of legit criticism could be made. What are people making a fuss about...that dude liked Grey pupon...sorry that criticism isn't valid and counts as points against whoever does it during their future attempts at making points.

So what makes the current admin shit in your view?

Edit: blah, that guys gone. Oh well.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Putin's Mein Kampf....
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Ukraine Is A Real Country

Putin has tried to rewrite the history of Ukraine, questioning its statehood. What’s the real story behind the country’s independence?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Crumpetlicker said:
I agree with Chomsky, America is the biggest terrorist state of them all.
It must also hurt that Xi and Putin are real statesmen and better than either side of politics in the US can muster at the moment.
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Yet another person reading from a script.

Putin must have really fucked up. Given how many are showing up at his obscure site, it seems his only hope is his troll army.
 
Dr.Amber Trichome

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Fogdog said:
Yet another person reading from a script.

Putin must have really fucked up. Given how many are showing up at his obscure site, it seems his only hope is his troll army.
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So True! Putin totally fucked up. He thought everyone was going to give in to him and give him like a hundred trillion dollars , lol, to stop the invasion. Lol, and No One is Doing it! Longer he waited longer his plan Failed.
 
hanimmal

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Crumpetlicker said:
I hear many terms new to my ears.

Non-Magat here. If I was any further left I would walk in circles. Not too sure too many Magats would be referencing Noam Chomsky. but anything is possible nowadays I suppose.

"Xi and Putin are autocrats, do you support autocrats?
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."

I don't think it matters if I support Xi or Vlad, they are autocrats as you said.
Need I remind you that you just got done with a full-term president who wakes up every day, looks into the mirror and says "Me first"
This from an outsiders perspective would appear to be a small microcosm of the way America actually views itself.
A "Me First" mentality.
When other countries start behaving that way they are taken to task and the threat of war develops.
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lmao sure they do. Usually though when a troll references Chomsky they get the green font like a good cuck left-troll.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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It looks more and more like Vlad's got his cock caught in a meat grinder and instead of pulling out he's pushing in! If he goes for the whole enchilada, he might have a bloody war on his hands, Ukraine has an army, a reserve and weapons these days. Thousands of Russian troops dying on top of crippling sanctions could cause Vlad trouble, Ukraine now has NATO support and weapons and it could be messy, not a walk in the park like in 2014. Russia will be kicked out of SWIFT and their oil exports embargoed to the extent possible. It will end up crippling the Russian economy and if America was smart they would show some flexibility with China on the energy front and keep them from aligning with Putin. Trade with North America, Asia pacific allies and Europe is vital for China, Russia not so much. They are watching the reaction to Russia's actions, but they have it pretty good as things stand, so shouldn't want to rock the boat. Crippling sanctions for a decade and diminishing demand for oil by then could be big trouble for Russia.
 
0potato0

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DIY-HP-LED said:
It looks more and more like Vlad's got his cock caught in a meat grinder and instead of pulling out he's pushing in! If he goes for the whole enchilada, he might have a bloody war on his hands, Ukraine has an army, a reserve and weapons these days. Thousands of Russian troops dying on top of crippling sanctions could cause Vlad trouble, Ukraine now has NATO support and weapons and it could be messy, not a walk in the park like in 2014. Russia will be kicked out of SWIFT and their oil exports embargoed to the extent possible. It will end up crippling the Russian economy and if America was smart they would show some flexibility with China on the energy front and keep them from aligning with Putin. Trade with North America, Asia pacific allies and Europe is vital for China, Russia not so much. They are watching the reaction to Russia's actions, but they have it pretty good as things stand, so shouldn't want to rock the boat. Crippling sanctions for a decade and diminishing demand for oil by then could be big trouble for Russia.
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Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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hanimmal said:
It is always telling when a long time account just turns full Russian propaganda troll.
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I bet you see russians under your bed whilst you dream about Murdoch.


I was watching The Business on TV last night and they were saying how well Australia will do out of all the sanctions. Which is good news for Australians.

Has anybody placed sanctions on Russia yet or just the new states? (edit- the US has!- interesting. I wonder when more US troops will arrive) Ive been out of the loop today and nobody seems to be talking about it or cares which is refreshing but also irritating.

This is Interesting and the US usually does what Israel wants.
 
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Tucker Carlson: Americans have been trained to hate Putin, and will suffer because of it
Since the day that Donald Trump became president, Democrats in Washington have told you it's your patriotic duty to hate Vladimir Putin. It's not a suggestion. It's a mandate. Anything less than hatred for Putin is treason.

Many Americans have obeyed this directive. They now dutifully hate Vladimir Putin. Maybe you're one of them. Hating Putin has become the central purpose of America's foreign policy. It's the main thing that we talk about. Entire cable channels are now devoted to it. Very soon, that hatred of Vladimir Putin could bring the United States into a conflict in Eastern Europe.

Before that happens, it might be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious: What is this really about? Why do I hate Putin so much? Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? Has he shipped every middle-class job in my town to Russia? Did he manufacture a worldwide pandemic that wrecked my business and kept me indoors for two years? Is he teaching my children to embrace racial discrimination? Is he making fentanyl? Is he trying to snuff out Christianity? Does he eat dogs?
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Since the day that Donald Trump became president, Democrats in Washington have told you it's your patriotic duty to hate Vladimir Putin. It's not a suggestion. It's a mandate. Anything less than hatred for Putin is treason.

Many Americans have obeyed this directive. They now dutifully hate Vladimir Putin. Maybe you're one of them. Hating Putin has become the central purpose of America's foreign policy. It's the main thing that we talk about. Entire cable channels are now devoted to it. Very soon, that hatred of Vladimir Putin could bring the United States into a conflict in Eastern Europe.

Before that happens, it might be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious: What is this really about? Why do I hate Putin so much? Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? Has he shipped every middle-class job in my town to Russia? Did he manufacture a worldwide pandemic that wrecked my business and kept me indoors for two years? Is he teaching my children to embrace racial discrimination? Is he making fentanyl? Is he trying to snuff out Christianity? Does he eat dogs?
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www.foxnews.com

Tucker Carlson: Americans have been trained to hate Putin, and will suffer because of it

Tucker Carlson reacts to the latest developments in Ukraine, and says all Americans will suffer because of Biden's policies.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

And it just gets stupider.
 
Lucky Luke

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printer said:
Tucker Carlson: Americans have been trained to hate Putin, and will suffer because of it
Since the day that Donald Trump became president, Democrats in Washington have told you it's your patriotic duty to hate Vladimir Putin. It's not a suggestion. It's a mandate. Anything less than hatred for Putin is treason.

Many Americans have obeyed this directive. They now dutifully hate Vladimir Putin. Maybe you're one of them. Hating Putin has become the central purpose of America's foreign policy. It's the main thing that we talk about. Entire cable channels are now devoted to it. Very soon, that hatred of Vladimir Putin could bring the United States into a conflict in Eastern Europe.

Before that happens, it might be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious: What is this really about? Why do I hate Putin so much? Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? Has he shipped every middle-class job in my town to Russia? Did he manufacture a worldwide pandemic that wrecked my business and kept me indoors for two years? Is he teaching my children to embrace racial discrimination? Is he making fentanyl? Is he trying to snuff out Christianity? Does he eat dogs?
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Since the day that Donald Trump became president, Democrats in Washington have told you it's your patriotic duty to hate Vladimir Putin. It's not a suggestion. It's a mandate. Anything less than hatred for Putin is treason.

Many Americans have obeyed this directive. They now dutifully hate Vladimir Putin. Maybe you're one of them. Hating Putin has become the central purpose of America's foreign policy. It's the main thing that we talk about. Entire cable channels are now devoted to it. Very soon, that hatred of Vladimir Putin could bring the United States into a conflict in Eastern Europe.

Before that happens, it might be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious: What is this really about? Why do I hate Putin so much? Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? Has he shipped every middle-class job in my town to Russia? Did he manufacture a worldwide pandemic that wrecked my business and kept me indoors for two years? Is he teaching my children to embrace racial discrimination? Is he making fentanyl? Is he trying to snuff out Christianity? Does he eat dogs?
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www.foxnews.com

Tucker Carlson: Americans have been trained to hate Putin, and will suffer because of it

Tucker Carlson reacts to the latest developments in Ukraine, and says all Americans will suffer because of Biden's policies.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

And it just gets stupider.
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To be fair Americans have been trained to hate Russians, then Muslims, recently Chinese. Americans were even taught to hate the French for awhile when we illegally invaded Iraq.

If this war doesn't help Biden then the Republicans will win next election in a landslide. Will trump run is still the big question on everyones mind. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/10/politics/biden-approval-rating-problem/index.html Its a big call he is making.

This whole thing has just gotten much more interesting! Going to be a fantastic few months now for Politics followers rather then the few weeks it was going to be.
I'm not happy about what might well be a Trump and Republican resurgence, shame Biden's brung them back into the game so soon, but we will see what October brings.
 
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