Roger A. Shrubber
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which makes me wonder who is sitting on all of that equipment now? russia is run by a criminal cartel, who knows what kind of "business connections" they have around the world?
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Roger A. Shrubber
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the country values it's reputation...yes, i'd imagine so, it takes a long time to build a reputation as a cold blooded murderous fascist regime, run by criminals, for criminals. how many children, old people, pregnant women, do you have to kill to earn that kind of reputation? how many times do you have to invade a peaceful neighbor on a flimsy pretext to build that kind of reputation? who has time to keep doing that over and over? putin, apparently.The Kremlin answered the question about the objections of the West to pay for gas in rubles
Peskov: Gazprom will develop a system for switching to gas payments in rubles in four days
The Kremlin proceeds from the current order of Russian President Vladimir Putin to Gazprom to accept payment for gas in Russian currency, said Dmitry Peskov, press secretary of the head of state.
He was asked whether Moscow plans to supply gas to Europe if it does not pay in rubles, as representatives of several countries have already stated.
On March 23, at a meeting with members of the government, Vladimir Putin instructed to convert payments for gas supplies to unfriendly countries into rubles, since it makes no sense to sell goods to the EU and the USA and receive payment in their currency.
At the same time, he noted that pumping will continue at prices and in volumes fixed in contracts, as the country values its reputation.
“During the remaining four days, Gazprom will have to make contacts and develop a transparent, understandable system, how it can be carried out technically and logistically. This information will be communicated to the buyers of Gazprom’s products, and then we’ll see,” the Kremlin spokesman said.
В Кремле ответили на вопрос о возражениях Запада по оплате за газ в рублях
В Кремле исходят из действующего поручения президента России Владимира Путина "Газпрому" принимать оплату за газ в российской валюте, заявил пресс-секретарь... РИА Новости, 25.03.2022ria-ru.translate.goog
printer
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The Russians losing would not go over with the party line telling the population their version of reality. Holding on to what they have in the southeast and saying they won might work. But then comes the settlement, rebuilding the country. I doubt russia will want to compensate the Ukrainians.
printer
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Main objectives of first stage of special operation in Ukraine generally accomplished - Russian General Staff
MOSCOW. March 25 (Interfax) - The main objectives of the first stage of the operation in Ukraine have been accomplished, Russian General Staff Main Operational Directorate head Sergei Rudskoi said.
"The main objectives of the first stage of the operation have generally been accomplished. The combat potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been considerably reduced, which, I emphasize once again, makes it possible to focus on the main efforts to achieve the main goal, liberation of Donbas," Rudskoi told a briefing on Friday.
MOSCOW. March 25 (Interfax) - The main objectives of the first stage of the operation in Ukraine have been accomplished, Russian General Staff Main Operational Directorate head Sergei Rudskoi said.
"The main objectives of the first stage of the operation have generally been accomplished. The combat potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been considerably reduced, which, I emphasize once again, makes it possible to focus on the main efforts to achieve the main goal, liberation of Donbas," Rudskoi told a briefing on Friday.
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Roger A. Shrubber
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i don't think they'll have much choice, much of their foreign holdings have been seized, and the idea of liquidating most if not all of it to pay for rebuilding and reperations in Ukraine is very popular, not just in the US but in the EU as well. they'll be lucky to get back 20% of what they lost to seizure, if they get back anything at all
Roger A. Shrubber
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translation : we fucked up so bad there is no way we can seize Kyiv or any territory west of the Dnieper, so we're going to try to snatch up the Donbas as a way to save face...Main objectives of first stage of special operation in Ukraine generally accomplished - Russian General Staff
MOSCOW. March 25 (Interfax) - The main objectives of the first stage of the operation in Ukraine have been accomplished, Russian General Staff Main Operational Directorate head Sergei Rudskoi said.
"The main objectives of the first stage of the operation have generally been accomplished. The combat potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been considerably reduced, which, I emphasize once again, makes it possible to focus on the main efforts to achieve the main goal, liberation of Donbas," Rudskoi told a briefing on Friday.
"Units of the LPR People's Militia have liberated 93% of the republic's territory. Fighting is now taking place on the approaches to Severodonetsk and Lysychansk," he said.
"The DPR People's Militia has taken control of 54% of the territory. The liberation of the city of Mariupol continues," he said.
"Units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, jointly with the DPR People's Militia, are conducting an offensive to liberate populated areas west of Donetsk," Rudskoi said.
The storming of the Ukrainian cities blocked by Russian troops is possible, but the main objective is the complete the liberation of Donbas, he said.
"We did not plan to storm them initially in order to avoid destruction and minimize losses among personnel and civilians," Rudskoi said at the briefing.
"Although we're not ruling out such a possibility, our forces and equipment will focus on the most important thing, the complete liberation of Donbas, in due course following the implementation of the set objectives by specific [combat] groups, and they're being implemented successfully," he said.
Russia did not relegate military support to the Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republics only within their borders due to the threat of constant replenishment of Ukrainian military groups, Rudskoi said.
"There were two options. The first one was to limit the actions only to the territory of the DPR and the LPR within the administrative borders of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, which is stated in the republics' constitutions. But then we would have been faced with constant replenishment by the Ukrainian authorities of the group involved in the so-called Joint Forces Operation," Rudskoi told the briefing on Friday.
"Therefore, the second option was chosen, which envisages actions on the entire territory of Ukraine, with events for its demilitarization and denazification," he said.
"The progression of the operation confirmed that this decision was the right one. It is being conducted by the General Staff in strict accordance with the approved plan," Rudskoi said.
Ukraine's Air Force and air defense systems are almost fully destroyed and its navy also is no more, he said.
"Ukraine's air forces and air defense system are now destroyed almost entirely. The country's navy has ceased to exist," Rudskoi told the briefing.
"The demilitarization of Ukraine is being achieved both with precision strikes on military infrastructure, military bases, aerodromes, command posts, arsenals and military depots, and with troops crushing the opposing enemy groups," he said.
Russia will immediately react to any attempts to close the airspace over Ukraine, the Russian General Staff Main Operational Directorate head said.
"Some NATO states suggest closing the airspace over Ukraine. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will immediately react to any such attempts appropriately," Rudskoi told the briefing.
The Russian Defense Ministry has revealed its losses in the special military operation in Ukraine: 1,351 dead and 3,825 injured.
"Unfortunately, during the special military operation there have been losses among our combat comrades: 1,351 servicemen are dead and 3,825 injured," Sergei Rudskoi said on Friday.
"The state will take upon itself all decisions to support their families, to bring up their children right up to receiving higher education, repaying all loans and resolving their housing issues," he said.
let them have Donbas, for now. there is no way they can keep it. the Ukraines are pissed, and rightfully so. if the russians annex any more of their country, they'll face constant guerilla attacks, constant harassment, constant attacks on their propaganda campaign...it will just keep bleeding their already pale carcass dry...
DIY-HP-LED
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Think about it, South Korea is a pretty technologically advanced place, they could make their own switchblade equivalents, customized for their specific needs. North Korea has an estimated 50,000 artillery pieces arrayed at the South Korean capitol just to the north over the DMZ, which, ironically is practically tiled with mines. Now imagine 100,000 computer controlled switchblades taking out every one of those artillery pieces and many crews along with ammo dumps, they know where every one is. Next if they know where he keeps his nukes, stealth starlink drones could take care of them, guided automatically by GPS only transmitting when they reach the target. Next on the hit list for stealth drone strikes would be the fat little fuck and his top people, all done simultaneously late at night while they are in bed. I might cost a billion, but it gives them first strike, neutralizes his artillery and nukes and decapitates the leadership in a single simultaneous stroke. Other drones can hit communications and AA defense points and others can destroy planes on the ground and their command and control. Much done at the push of a button when the highly secret system is in place. They can also use precision rockets on the artillery and nukes, just to make sure, after the initial strike.
This is what modern technology can do to an old fashioned soviet style army like NK with demoralized conscript troops that they dare not trust. Deal with the nukes and artillery arrayed at the capitol and the SK army could go through them like shit through a goose and be at the Yalu river across from China in a day or two at most. I don't think the population would be hostile either, food distribution along the way would take care of that. If Americans weren't involved, or were no longer there, the Chinese might buy into it, or not want to fuck with SK after they did that!
printer
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They would have done great if they just took the two provinces and left it at that. The level of destruction of the rest of the country might total up more than the amount frozen. Even then there has to be a court ruling to take it.
printer
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You are a fool. Seoul would lose a million people before the shelling stops.
BudmanTX
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that's pretty much my assessment too....also if you look at the maps, they're no close of capturing Donbas, and they're is a major push along Kherson, the other 2 main cities they wanted to take, that's a NO...also there is fighting in the Melitopol area as well.....and the russian are losing ground in a push towards Mariupol area too.......if they can cut off the bridge roots coming from Crimea, that would the leave the russian with the penis in they're hands.....start hitting the ship yards Crimea would prolly fall back to the Ukrainians once more.....
Roger A. Shrubber
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the Chinese wouldn't get involved if a democratic country shared a pretty long border with them? a democratic country that could now allow troops to land and have access to mainland China? i think they might get a little perturbed...
Fogdog
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Bizzare comparison of the west's response to Putin's invasion to US right wing grievances against "cancel culture" and even drags a children's book author into the mix. My guess is that he's trying to sway right wing radical Republicans to his side with his complaints. Maybe it will work, everybody on the right seems to be addled.
Vladimir Putin Claims Russia Is Being Canceled Like J.K. Rowling
Russia's president lamented "cancel culture" during a televised diatribe against the world's condemnation of his Ukraine invasion.
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Putin likened the world’s condemnation of Russia to the backlash that “Harry Potter” author J.K. Rowling received for controversial comments about the transgender community. Rowling was “canceled,” Putin said, “just because she didn’t satisfy the demands of gender rights,” according to an interpreter’s translation.
“They’re now trying to cancel our country,” he continued. “I’m talking about the progressive discrimination of everything to do with Russia — this trend that is unfolding in a number of Western states.”
He added: “They’re now engaging in cancel culture.”
Vladimir Putin Claims Russia Is Being Canceled Like J.K. Rowling
Russia's president lamented "cancel culture" during a televised diatribe against the world's condemnation of his Ukraine invasion.
Putin Complains Russia Is Being Canceled Like J.K. Rowling
Russia's president lamented "cancel culture" during a televised diatribe against the world's condemnation of his Ukraine invasion.
Putin likened the world’s condemnation of Russia to the backlash that “Harry Potter” author J.K. Rowling received for controversial comments about the transgender community. Rowling was “canceled,” Putin said, “just because she didn’t satisfy the demands of gender rights,” according to an interpreter’s translation.
“They’re now trying to cancel our country,” he continued. “I’m talking about the progressive discrimination of everything to do with Russia — this trend that is unfolding in a number of Western states.”
He added: “They’re now engaging in cancel culture.”
I've previously posted that if the Ukranian army is capable of this and want to make a statement and stick it in Putin's(you know what) they should try to hit the Kerch strait bridge that the Russians took years to build,it's long as a MF,and Putin cut the ribbon in a photo op his very self,it connects mainland Russia w/Crimea and what a devastating loss that would be to the Russians,the only downside I can see is that Putin would be so unhinged if that bridge dropped into the water that he might unleash a WMD of some type,but since the Ukranian's hit that amphibious ship yesterday, they might be up to the challenge.
Roger A. Shrubber
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the best thing the russians could do with their current goal is to completely withdraw from all territory west of the Dnieper, and move those troops east as fast as humanly possible, and get them on the ground in Luhansk, Donetsk, and if they intend to keep crimea, then they also have to take Mariupol...if they continue to try to push towards Kyiv, they'll lose it all, their entire army, all those men, all that equipment, all that face lost before the entire world, the mighty modern russian army beaten by a former satellite state
DIY-HP-LED
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I meant the general in Ukraine who commanded the artillery strikes on cities, if Vlad is done in with a drone it will be a Russian doing it, but Vlad always travels with an electronic anti drone truck in his convoy and they are around the Kremlin too. A rogue air force pilot flying a jet fighter dumping a 20,000 pound load of bombs on his convoy or his apartment in the Kremlin and scooting to Ukraine at low level is a possibility though, it ain't far at all, easily within range. Two buddies who hate Vlad could team up for even better results and more bombs or even napalm the fucker's convoy. I mean all loaded up for war and suppose to head to Ukraine, but take a detour via Moscow hunting for one man...
Fogdog
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Zelensky doesn't see it that way. He's not wrong either. Civil unrest in Donbas is a Ukrainian internal issue, not a reason to cede that territory to Putin. They are kicking Russian ass right now too. Hence the Russian backtracking on demands for a peace treaty.
cannabineer
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fell off back of tank, for you special price
printer
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That is a reason they do not want a state friendly to the US to be right next to them.
Roger A. Shrubber
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it would be a nice asset for the Ukrainians to seize for their own use, which would also mightily upset putin, as well...
the Ukrainians might need it to move heavy equipment into place to kick the russians the fuck out of their country completely.
Billy the Mountain
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Wagner group probably gets a pretty good deal