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One way of dealing with drones are to use counter drones or fighter drones. Drones can be detected using radar or passively with infrared or visually. A portable system detect and lock onto an enemy drone then can launch a cheap fighter drone, some of which may be rocket assisted for high altitude. A tube launched electrically powered small drone that could quickly zoom up thousands of feet and detonate a hundred grams of explosive with a proximity fuze next to it. It would be a high performance RC plane with a short flight time, designed for speed and climb rate. It would basically be a cheap sidewinder for drones, propeller driven and with a much lower speed range, like it's target, but faster. Perhaps like a Stinger, point it at the target and the seeker in the drone locks on, finding the target using the sophisticated detector and sight on the launcher, then ditch the tube when fired.
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With kamikaze-style drones, the advantages are 'huge,' but so are the headaches, top Marines say

"It's incredibly frustrating to know that there's a loitering munition up above your head," the Marine Corps' top general said.
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Why Ukraine Is Winning

Ukraine’s success illuminates a strategy that has allowed a smaller state to—so far—outlast a larger and much more powerful one.
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Why Ukraine Is Winning
Ukraine’s success illuminates a strategy that has allowed a smaller state to—so far—outlast a larger and much more powerful one.
By Phillips Payson O’Brien

About the author: Phillips Payson O’Brien is a professor of strategic studies at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland. He is the author of How the War Was Won: Air-Sea Power and Allied Victory in World War II.

Battles reveal more than they decide. Battles in which the outcome is truly up for grabs are rare, and battles that prove decisive in achieving a political goal are rarer still. Instead, battles demonstrate how effectively combatants planned, prepared, and executed before the fighting began. The result of a battle exposes not only how well matched the sides are but also how the war might unfold in the future. In that sense, the outcome of the Battle of Kyiv was never in doubt. Russia’s and Ukraine’s preparations for the fight essentially preordained the result. But the Battle of Kyiv has revealed a great deal about why Ukraine has done so much better in the war than many analysts predicted.

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A fighter drone, cheap anti drone drone for lower flying drones. Made from materials like foam and cardboard and driven by a prop with a flight controller and guidance system.
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If this rocket is so ‘dumb,’ how does it ram enemy drones out of the sky?

Sometimes all force takes is mass and acceleration.
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The ram-drone is perhaps the most interesting, and not just for the novelty. A small, hand-launched tool that navigates toward its target could prove easy to outfit with infantry and simple to employ. If the ram-drone goes to production and includes collapsible wings, units could even carry a few, ready to disable any overhead surveillance encountered while out in the field. Apart from the sensor and navigation system, about which we know little, the parts of this ram-drone seem like the sort of thing a hobbyist could put together in a garage on the cheap.

Russia-backed forces have encountered cheap commercial drones adapted as weapons and scouts in both Syria and Ukraine, and has found few answers anywhere near as cheap as the drones they’re designed to destroy.

“This is something Russia may have picked up in Syria,” says Bendett, a fellow in Russian studies at the American Foreign Policy Council. “Using simpler projectiles to counter adversary unmanned aerial vehicles without explosives in case it has to crash near friendly forces.”

The lack of an explosive on the ram-drone means less potential risk when fired close-by, which is where cheap drones tend to operate. The relative silence of just a single propeller makes it a discreet tool for disabling hostile robots. The ram-drone is undergoing testing with the Russian military. If the military finds it useful, the latest counter-drone design may be rocketing ahead at ramming speed.
 
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DIY-HP-LED said:
A fighter drone, cheap anti drone drone for lower flying drones. Made from materials like foam and cardboard and driven by a prop with a flight controller and guidance system.
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If this rocket is so ‘dumb,’ how does it ram enemy drones out of the sky?

Sometimes all force takes is mass and acceleration.
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How hard would it be to shield a drone’s electronics from such a weapon? At a hundred grams’ cost, some copper plumbing bits coukd be applied for 2mm solid copper shielding. Assimilate this!

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cannabineer said:
How hard would it be to shield a drone’s electronics from such a weapon? At a hundred grams’ cost, some copper plumbing bits coukd be applied for 2mm solid copper shielding. Assimilate this!

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They faraday cage electronics to make them EMP proof and autonomously guided weapons are more or less immune if designed properly. However there can be vulnerabilities, this would be for small commercial drones that have no such protection, the bigger military ones are hardened against electromagnetic interference. Radio antennas are vey hard to shield. It's like the rest of war, tactics like flying low etc and strategies like using military drones to detect and take out the jammers and anti drone equipment in an area, then the commercial one can move in and do the detail tactical work etc. The Russians are short on anti drone equipment and don't have it everywhere all the time. Increasingly they will use long range artillery's to protect forward drone operators and I can see them using that DJI drone location system against the Russians, I would. They could use it to suck them into detecting the cheap disposable drone and firing on it's location, meanwhile counterbattery radars and long range artillery are laying in wait...
 
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Fox news? I didn't realize you considered them to be a reliable news source.
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Generally they are unreliable and spin the news to fit a propaganda narrative, however here Rupert has no axe to grind. He's smart enough to be anti Russian because much o the republican base rediscovered their roots on this issue and Vlad lost popularity. Before the Invasion Tucker was saying how nice a guy Vlad was and that we were too hard on poor Russia. Trumps still has his nose shoved up Putin's ass and extorted Zelenskiy over approved congressional military aid to Ukraine which he blocked and delayed. Vlad wanted it anyway, so why not try to get a political advantage by blackmailing Zelinskiy. Not long ago Vlad was a popular guy in the GOP, they took plenty of his money funneled through the NRA
 
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Looks like the UK didn't forget the attacks on it's territory using weapons of mass destruction for assassination along with radioactive Polonium. The UK is also shopping all over the world for soviet weapons and munitions for the Ukrainians. Boris is half Russian and he figures a liberated Ukraine will mean a reformed Russia and Belarus, he likes Zelenskiy's version of Slavic countries. However America and Canada put over 3% of our military budgets in and the UK only 1.3% so far, but they could be giving other aid too.

Everything has gone downhill for the Russians since they started this stupid war and their weakness was reveled. Now Russia is being treated like shit by the west and countries like the UK have no problem giving security guarantees to Finland and Sweden. They have no problem telling Vlad to go fuck himself as so many others have, using the Ukrainian method for dealing with the asshole. His former soviet neighbors have also asserted their independence and the weaker Vlad gets the more trouble he will have from neighbors who loath and fear Russia.

I figure Russia's troubles have just begun and won't end with getting kicked out of Ukraine they will increase internally, economically, militarily and diplomatically, even without the CIA stirring up shit in and around the remains of the evil empire.
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Minister backs Ukraine carrying out Russia strikes with British weapons

James Heappey says it is ‘completely legitimate’ for Kyiv to identify targets in Russia to disrupt attacks
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Minister backs Ukraine carrying out Russia strikes with British weapons
James Heappey says it is ‘completely legitimate’ for Kyiv to identify targets in Russia to disrupt attacks
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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PJ Diaz said:
Fox news? I didn't realize you considered them to be a reliable news source.
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i didn't notice, honestly. i usually do, if i had seen the little fox icon, i would have looked for a corroborating story...however,
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1610029/Putin-Poland-denazification-Ukraine-war-NATO-latest-Russia-state-duma-update
there's a story that backs it up, even though it's in the British equivalent of the national enquirer...i normally wouldn't trust either, but they're basically just reposting other peoples statements, so i'll take their word for this
 
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I was thinking that a lot of those DJI photography drones use sensors for obstacle avoidance. Ponting the sensors in likely directions of attack and programming the drone to rapidly maneuver automatically could defend it from ramming attacks, but not from proximity fused explosives.
 
PJ Diaz

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Generally they are unreliable and spin the news to fit a propaganda narrative, however here Rupert has no axe to grind. He's smart enough to be anti Russian because much o the republican base rediscovered their roots on this issue and Vlad lost popularity. Before the Invasion Tucker was saying how nice a guy Vlad was and that we were too hard on poor Russia. Trumps still has his nose shoved up Putin's ass and extorted Zelenskiy over approved congressional military aid to Ukraine which he blocked and delayed. Vlad wanted it anyway, so why not try to get a political advantage by blackmailing Zelinskiy. Not long ago Vlad was a popular guy in the GOP, they took plenty of his money funneled through the NRA
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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i didn't notice, honestly. i usually do, if i had seen the little fox icon, i would have looked for a corroborating story...however,
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1610029/Putin-Poland-denazification-Ukraine-war-NATO-latest-Russia-state-duma-update
there's a story that backs it up, even though it's in the British equivalent of the national enquirer...i normally wouldn't trust either, but they're basically just reposting other peoples statements, so i'll take their word for this
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I find it oddly ironic, as you both have patently discounted many news articles posted in the past, simply based on their FOX News affiliation. I guess the affiliation isn't the real issue, if you happen to agree with their news. Weird.
 
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