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schuylaar

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An opinion piece. Not sure what I think.

It's opinion; that's what to think of it. I stick to facts because you don't know the opined personally. Anything can be in their mind. Anything can drive their thoughts. Why are the opined thoughts better than anyone else who has been paying attention.

Stay away from second hand smoke and news; you'll live a happier life:hug:

The squirrels are already digging holes for acorns that haven't even ripened or dropped yet..that's fascinating..Putin? Not so much; he's dying.
 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
It's opinion; that's what to think of it. I stick to facts because you don't know the opined personally. Anything can be in their mind. Anything can drive their thoughts. Why are the opined thoughts better than anyone else who has been paying attention.

Stay away from second hand smoke and news; you'll live a happier life:hug:

The squirrels are already digging holes for acorns that haven't even ripened or dropped yet..that's fascinating..Putin? Not so much; he's dying.
The interesting part to me is that the article seems to have an unusual take on how foreign and military policies operate. I got the distinct impression of the slippery slope fallacy being used.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It's opinion; that's what to think of it. I stick to facts because you don't know the opined personally. Anything can be in their mind. Anything can drive their thoughts. Why are the opined thoughts better than anyone else who has been paying attention.

Stay away from second hand smoke and news; you'll live a happier life:hug:

The squirrels are already digging holes for acorns that haven't even ripened or dropped yet..that's fascinating..Putin? Not so much; he's dying.
paywall i can't get around
 

printer

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printer

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oh...who was it saying that China was building shit for poor countries so they could repossess it and put in military bases?
oh yeah, it was me...an ignorant redneck from Tn foresaw this by at least 4 years...who the fuck do we have on global threat assesment? is it a fucking trumpturd golfing buddy appointee?
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/19/1118113095/sri-lanka-china-ship-hambantota-port
The danger of accepting money from the Chinese was known ten years ago. But when you are running a shithole country and you want some kickbacks you just pretend things will work out alright.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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And if Nato attacks the Russian troops at the site they can bomb a reactor. Pretty sure there will be a dumb fuck there thinking, "If I am going to die I am going to make a big mess."
it makes me wonder why we ever thought building a potential nuclear weapon in close proximity to cities was a good idea...
i suppose it's because people tend to assume that others hold their values, and don't imagine that an immoral thief bent on world domination would use such a horrible threat over so many innocent people.
so, if we intervene, we're fucked...if we don't intervene, we're fucked...if we kill putin we're fucked, the longer putin survives, the more we're fucked...
i don't have a fucking suggestion at this point, no matter what i suggest, it's putin has this, or will do this, or won't do that....putin has controlled this shit since day one...with a shitty fucking army full of garbage equipment and badly trained soldiers who resent doing their service, dumbass crooked officers, and an intelligence corp that lied through their teeth about having support waiting for advanced troops....he has still made everyone step to his tune..."i have nukes and i'll use them"....such a fucking old worn out song...i'm so fucking tired of hearing it...
 

printer

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it makes me wonder why we ever thought building a potential nuclear weapon in close proximity to cities was a good idea...
i suppose it's because people tend to assume that others hold their values, and don't imagine that an immoral thief bent on world domination would use such a horrible threat over so many innocent people.
so, if we intervene, we're fucked...if we don't intervene, we're fucked...if we kill putin we're fucked, the longer putin survives, the more we're fucked...
i don't have a fucking suggestion at this point, no matter what i suggest, it's putin has this, or will do this, or won't do that....putin has controlled this shit since day one...with a shitty fucking army full of garbage equipment and badly trained soldiers who resent doing their service, dumbass crooked officers, and an intelligence corp that lied through their teeth about having support waiting for advanced troops....he has still made everyone step to his tune..."i have nukes and i'll use them"....such a fucking old worn out song...i'm so fucking tired of hearing it...
Basically he has to die. How that happens, have to make him being around costly to the Russian elite.
 

printer

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Putin Allows Inspectors to Visit Russia-Held Nuclear Plant via Ukraine
Russian President Vladimir Putin has agreed that a team of independent inspectors can travel to the Moscow-occupied Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant via Ukraine, the French presidency said on Friday.

The apparent resolution of a dispute over whether inspectors travel to the plant via Ukraine or Russia came as a senior U.S. defense official said Ukraine's forces had brought the Russian advance to a halt.

"You are seeing a complete and total lack of progress by the Russians on the battlefield," the official said, speaking to reporters on grounds of anonymity.
According to French President Emmanuel Macron's office, Putin had "reconsidered the demand" that the International Atomic Energy Agency travel through Russia to the site, after the Russian leader himself warned fighting there could bring about a "catastrophe."

It specified that Putin had dropped his demand that the IAEA team travel to the site via Russia, saying it could arrive via Ukraine.
Meanwhile, UN chief Antonio Guterres urged Moscow's forces occupying the Zaporizhzhia plant in south Ukraine not to disconnect the facility from the grid and potentially cut supplies to millions of Ukrainians.

A flare-up in fighting around the Russian-controlled nuclear power station — with both sides blaming each other for attacks — has raised the specter of a disaster worse than in Chernobyl.

The Kremlin said in a statement earlier that Putin and Macron agreed that officials from the UN's nuclear watchdog should carry out inspections "as soon as possible" to "assess the real situation on the ground."
Putin also "stressed that the systematic shelling by the Ukrainian military of the territory of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant creates the danger of a large-scale catastrophe," the Kremlin added.

The warning came just a day after Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Guterres, meeting in the east Ukrainian city of Lviv, sounded the alarm over the intensified fighting, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky urged the United Nations to secure the site.

The Turkish leader said: "We are worried. We do not want another Chernobyl," referring to the 1986 nuclear disaster, while Guterres cautioned that any damage to the plant would be akin to "suicide."

'Man-made disaster'
During his visit to the southern port of Odessa on Friday, the UN secretary general said: "Obviously, the electricity from Zaporizhzhia is Ukrainian electricity. This principle must be fully respected."

"Naturally, its energy must be used by the Ukrainian people," he told AFP in separate comments.

His remarks came after Ukrainian energy operator Energoatom alleged that Russian troops were planning to "shut off the reactors" at Zaporizhzhia, which is capable of supplying 4 million homes.

On Thursday, Moscow said Kyiv was preparing a "provocation" at the site that would see Russia "accused of creating a man-made disaster at the plant."

Kyiv, however, insisted that Moscow was planning the provocation, and said Russia's occupying forces had ordered most staff to stay home Friday and drawn down officials from Russia's own state nuclear agency.

The UN chief was visiting Odesa as part of an appeal to make Ukrainian grain available to poor countries struggling with soaring food prices, after a landmark deal with Russia last month to allow its export.

Earlier, Guterres met Erdogan — who helped broker the grain deal inked in Istanbul — and Zelensky, saying the United Nations hoped to scale up work under the deal ahead of the winter.

The deal, the only significant agreement between Russia and Ukraine since Moscow invaded in February, has so far seen 25 boats carrying some 600,000 tons of agricultural products depart from three designated ports, Kyiv has said.

But during the call with Macron — their first in nearly three months — Putin told the French leader that Russia was facing obstacles in the export of its food products and fertilizer.

Export 'obstacles'
"There are still obstacles to... Russian exports that do not contribute to the solution of problems related to ensuring global food security," the Kremlin said.

Guterres is expected to head to Turkey after Odessa to visit the Joint Coordination Center, the body tasked with overseeing the accord.

The agreement between Kyiv and Moscow to clear exit corridors from three Ukrainian ports, including Odessa, has brought some relief to concerns of global food shortages with the warring countries among the world's leading producers.

The deal has held, but brought little respite along the sprawling front lines in eastern Ukraine, where Russian forces have edged slowly forward after nearly six months of fighting.

The primary tool of Moscow's forces has been artillery barrages, and recent bombardments over the eastern Donetsk region — which has been partially controlled by Russian proxies since 2014 — left several dead.

The Ukrainian head of the region, Pavlo Kyrylenko, said on social media Friday that Russian strikes had killed five people and wounded 10 more in three settlements.

Strikes early Friday in Kharkiv, Ukraine's second largest city, left one person dead and damaged a school and a private business, the head of the region said. Russian strikes around Kharkiv have killed more than a dozen people over the last two days.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ukraine strikes another Russian base | Mariana Budjeryn
235,888 views Aug 19, 2022 "Ukrainians are targeting Russian ammunition depots, air bases and various command and control centres, they're being targeted, hit and destroyed."

Mariana Budjeryn discusses the spate of attacks on Russian occupied Ukraine and the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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A ten thousand dollar basic drone that you can customize, carries a 50 pound payload which will make a considerable bang. Using commercial GPS it should be able to hit with in a one or two meters of it's aiming point and it will fly autonomously to it using GPS waypoints. There would be lots of room for custom improvements by the Ukrainians and they probably could mass produce something like this themselves or in partnership with the Poles. These or something like them should be able to hit high value targets hundreds of kilometers away.


Drone Hits Black Sea Fleet Headquarters in Sevastopol (08/20)
143,234 views Aug 20, 2022 Looking at what we know about the drone strike on the Black Sea Fleet's Sevastopol headquarters.
 
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