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DIY-HP-LED
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Like his cannon fodder, Vlad ain't gonna get out of this war alive, sooner or later someone will surely kill the fucker, he's gonna fuck Russia worse than Ukraine, so it's a tossup who does him first.
DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
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Vlad is having trouble all over the map, especially in former soviet republics or countries the USSR occupied, they know who the Russians are, and they too see their weakness now. You would think with the snubs he got from China and India when he went cap in hand, he would have figured it out. All is not well for Russia in central Asia and with the Chinese belt and road initiative railways already running through the region, their influence will grow.
printer
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The State Duma wants to introduce the concepts of “mobilization” and “wartime” into the Criminal Code
The State Duma of the Russian Federation proposed to introduce the concepts of "mobilization" and "wartime" into the Criminal Code. This is reported in a document posted on the website of the database of the State Duma bills.
“The list of aggravating circumstances includes the commission of a crime “during the period of mobilization or martial law, in wartime” (Article 63). Unauthorized abandonment of the unit during the period of mobilization and martial law (Article 337 of the Criminal Code) will be punished more severely,” follows from the explanatory note.
В Госдуме хотят внести в УК понятия «мобилизация» и «военное время»
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RBC: Putin will make an emergency address
Russian President Vladimir Putin will make an emergency address. It is reported by RBC, citing its sources.
“President Vladimir Putin may speak on Tuesday, September 20, regarding referendums in the territories of the LPR, DPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions,” the media writes. The presentation is expected before the end of the day.
The Federation Council spoke about the introduction of general mobilization in the Russian Federation
The amendments to the law on the inclusion of the concepts of “mobilization” and “wartime” in the Criminal Code of Russia, adopted by the State Duma, do not imply general mobilization. This was stated by Senator Olga Kovitidi.
“Today, there are a lot of annotations that a law on mobilization has been adopted. No. As far as this law is concerned, mobilization has not been announced in the country,” Kovitidi said on the air of the Russia 24 TV channel. Kovitidi is one of the developers of the relevant document.
Earlier, the State Duma adopted amendments on mobilization and wartime. According to the new bill, refusal to participate in military or hostilities is proposed to be punished with imprisonment for a term of two to three years.
В Совфеде высказались о введении всеобщей мобилизации в РФ
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In the LNR called the date of the referendum
The referendum in the LPR will be held from 23 to 27 September. This was announced by the First Deputy Chairman of the People's Council of the LPR Dmitry Khoroshilov.
Political scientist Danilin: residents of the liberated territories want Russia's protection from Ukraine
Polls conducted by the Crimean Republican Institute for Political and Sociological Research (RIPSI) and the research company INSOMAR in the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kharkiv regions indicate that residents of the regions want to be sure that Russia will protect them from Ukraine. Such a conclusion in a conversation with URA.RU was made by the director of the Center for Political Analysis and Social Research Pavel Danilin.
Earlier, RIPSI and INSOMAR published data, according to which 83% (87% for INSOMAR) of those surveyed in the LPR, 80% (86%) in the DPR, 72% (83%) in Zaporozhye and 65% (72%) in the Kherson region are ready to come to referenda on joining Russia. At the same time, 94% (90%) of respondents in the DPR, 93% (90%) in the LPR, 80% (80%) in Zaporozhye and Kherson region, 80% (80%) support the entry of the regions into the Russian Federation.
“These are very good indicators that demonstrate that the inhabitants of the regions want to be together with Russia, they want certainty, they want confidence that Russia will protect them, since this will be its territory. They want security. They do not believe Kyiv, which has recently demonstrated that there are inadequate authorities there,” said Pavel Danilin.
Director of the Institute of Recent States Alexei Martynov, in a conversation with URA.RU, emphasized that residents of the regions see the decision to become part of Russia as a reason to end the civil war with Ukraine. “For them, the choice is between the present and the future, that is, the choice between the civil war, which they have been living for the last eight years and periodically losing children. The alternative is joining Russia and ending the civil war forever. I assume this is the end of the war for the whole of Ukraine, and not just all regions,” he added.
At the same time, the opinion of the citizens of Russia itself about the upcoming referendums is important, Martynov noted. “Procedurally important is not only the opinion of the Donbass republics and territories, but also the opinion of Russian citizens. Based on the practice of the same Crimean process. Then the opinion of the Russians was also measured by sociological means,” concluded the political scientist.
Since February 24, Russia has been conducting a special operation on the territory of Ukraine in order to protect the inhabitants of Donbass from the Kiev regime. Referendums on joining the Russian Federation will be held in Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, as well as on the territory of the LPR and DPR from September 23 to 27.
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BudmanTX
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i was just reading about that this morning....
DIY-HP-LED
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Equipped with what? Ukraine will have all their equipment in a couple of months. Fine, send a million men in human wave attacks, that's what AC 130 gunships are for, and Uncle Sam always provides the appropriate arms package to meet the threat.
cannabineer
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If they do us the favor of officially declaring, Nato can send air assets (piloted ones) to provide cover for the candidate member.
BudmanTX
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cannabineer
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neither qualifies.
BudmanTX
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Mobilization draft bill already signed....in July no doubt
DIY-HP-LED
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The point of referendums is moot, Crimea is already annexed, and they are gonna lose it, so they had better get used to it. Nobody recognizes it anyway. It is pure bullshit for internal uses and consumption. If he mobilizes, he will suffer consequences at home, which is why he hasn't and has been desperate to avoid it. Equipping, training, feeding and transporting his mighty army is gonna be an issue. If they come in WW2 equipment, the Ukrainians will have a border wall made up of Russian bodies. Technology makes killing huge numbers of people easy these days.
printer
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The US has not been sending long range missiles as Russia may see it as an escalation of the war. I think stealing one fifth of Ukraine would be an escalation and since Ukraine will be firing on "Russian territory" with the short range weapons then it really will not make a difference having long range weapons. Take out the bridge in Crimea on the first day of the referendom to let the voters (not that it will change the predetermined result) know they are not leaving without a fight.
BudmanTX
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DIY-HP-LED
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Look deeper and they might find golf courses and NY real estate, there's a lot more than that to be had! The Swiss said they were open to cooperation too, as are other tax havens for dirty money, a first.
printer
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Russian Lawmakers Approve Long Jail Terms for Military Surrender, Refusal to Serve
Russian lawmakers passed sweeping legislation Tuesday introducing jail terms of up to 15 years for wartime acts, including surrendering, as the country’s forces face major battlefield setbacks nearly seven months after invading Ukraine.
Voluntary surrender and looting are punished by 10 and 15 years in prison, respectively, with “mobilization, martial law and wartime” listed as aggravating circumstances.
Desertion during mobilization or wartime will be punished by up to 10 years, according to the bill authored by members of all parties represented in parliament.
Conscientious objectors are punished by up to three years in prison during wartime.
The bill introduces the concepts of “mobilization, martial law and wartime” previously not mentioned in the Russian Criminal Code, according to human rights lawyer Pavel Chikov, who first reported on the draft Duma bill.
Observers speculate that its passage paves the way for general mobilization amid Russia’s struggles to replenish its depleting troops in Ukraine.
Soldiers who refuse service can be jailed even without martial law, military lawyer Maxim Grebenyuk told the independent news website Vyorstka, pointing to language in the legislation that punishes soldiers during an “armed conflict.”
The State Duma, Russia’s lower house of parliament, voted unanimously in favor of the bill, Chikov said.
Russia’s upper house of parliament, the Federation Council, is expected to pass the draft bill on Wednesday, according to state media.
The wartime jail terms will then come into force the day President Vladimir Putin signs the bill into law.
www.themoscowtimes.com
Pro-Moscow Officials in Occupied Ukraine to Hold Russia Annexation Votes
Authorities in separatist- and Russia-occupied regions of Ukraine on Tuesday said they will stage referendums on formally joining Russia in a matter of days.
The announcement comes as Moscow's forces face continued setbacks in their nearly seven-month war against Kyiv, leading to speculation that the Kremlin could announce a wider mobilization to shore up its military.
The Donetsk People's Republic (DNR) and the neighboring Luhansk People's Republic (LNR) will both hold their referendums on Sept. 23-27, officials there said.
DNR leader Denis Pushilin said that a vote on joining Russia was overdue.
"I think that people have long been waiting for a referendum here and it will probably be a political move that will help ensure the safety of civilians," Russian news agencies quoted him as telling state television.
Moscow-installed officials in the occupied Kherson region and partially occupied Zaporizhzhia region soon followed suit, announcing their own referendums to be held on the same dates as the DNR and LNR.
“We have set a course for reunification, a return to Russia. And we will not turn away from it,” Kherson's Moscow-appointed leader Vladimir Saldo said in a video message.
The Moscow stock exchange was down by more than 10% at one point following the announcements, the Kommersant business daily reported.
Earlier Tuesday, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev called the possible referendums in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions “essential,” saying they would allow Moscow to utilize its full military capability in the region.
"Encroachment onto the territory of Russia is a crime which allows you to use all self-defense forces," Medvedev, who is now the deputy head of Russia's Security Council, said in a post on the Telegram messaging app.
Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also backed the referendums.
“The current situation proves that they [people from the occupied regions] want to be masters of their own destiny,” Lavrov said.
Russian State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said Moscow would support the separatist republics if their residents voted in favor of joining Russia.
“Everything that is happening today (calls to hold referendums) is an absolutely unequivocal ultimatum from Russia to Ukraine and the West,” said Tatiana Stanovaya, a nonresident scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
“To guarantee 'victory,' Putin is ready to hold referendums immediately to get the right (as he thinks) to use nuclear weapons to defend Russian territory,” Stanovaya said in a Telegram post on Tuesday, adding that Putin could use the possible annexation “to threaten the use of nuclear weapons to defend Russian territory.”
Large parts of the industrial Donbas area have been controlled by Moscow-backed separatists since 2014, after nationwide demonstrations ousted Ukraine's Kremlin-friendly president.
Russia at the time annexed the Crimean peninsula from Ukraine with a vote that was criticized by Kyiv and the West, which imposed sanctions in response.
Both Kyiv and its allies in the West have likewise said they will not recognize the results of any new referendums in separatist- or Russia-controlled regions.
And Ukraine on Tuesday vowed to "eliminate" Russian threats against the war-torn country following the separatists' referenda announcements.
"Ukraine will solve the Russian issue. The threat can be eliminated only by force," said the Ukraine presidency's chief of staff, Andriy Yermak.
www.themoscowtimes.com
Russian lawmakers passed sweeping legislation Tuesday introducing jail terms of up to 15 years for wartime acts, including surrendering, as the country’s forces face major battlefield setbacks nearly seven months after invading Ukraine.
Voluntary surrender and looting are punished by 10 and 15 years in prison, respectively, with “mobilization, martial law and wartime” listed as aggravating circumstances.
Desertion during mobilization or wartime will be punished by up to 10 years, according to the bill authored by members of all parties represented in parliament.
Conscientious objectors are punished by up to three years in prison during wartime.
The bill introduces the concepts of “mobilization, martial law and wartime” previously not mentioned in the Russian Criminal Code, according to human rights lawyer Pavel Chikov, who first reported on the draft Duma bill.
Observers speculate that its passage paves the way for general mobilization amid Russia’s struggles to replenish its depleting troops in Ukraine.
Soldiers who refuse service can be jailed even without martial law, military lawyer Maxim Grebenyuk told the independent news website Vyorstka, pointing to language in the legislation that punishes soldiers during an “armed conflict.”
The State Duma, Russia’s lower house of parliament, voted unanimously in favor of the bill, Chikov said.
Russia’s upper house of parliament, the Federation Council, is expected to pass the draft bill on Wednesday, according to state media.
The wartime jail terms will then come into force the day President Vladimir Putin signs the bill into law.
Russian Lawmakers Approve Long Jail Terms for Military Surrender, Refusal to Serve - The Moscow Times
Russian lawmakers passed sweeping legislation Tuesday introducing jail terms of up to 15 years for wartime acts, including surrendering, as the country’s forces face major battlefield setbacks nearly seven months after invading Ukraine.
Pro-Moscow Officials in Occupied Ukraine to Hold Russia Annexation Votes
Authorities in separatist- and Russia-occupied regions of Ukraine on Tuesday said they will stage referendums on formally joining Russia in a matter of days.
The announcement comes as Moscow's forces face continued setbacks in their nearly seven-month war against Kyiv, leading to speculation that the Kremlin could announce a wider mobilization to shore up its military.
The Donetsk People's Republic (DNR) and the neighboring Luhansk People's Republic (LNR) will both hold their referendums on Sept. 23-27, officials there said.
DNR leader Denis Pushilin said that a vote on joining Russia was overdue.
"I think that people have long been waiting for a referendum here and it will probably be a political move that will help ensure the safety of civilians," Russian news agencies quoted him as telling state television.
Moscow-installed officials in the occupied Kherson region and partially occupied Zaporizhzhia region soon followed suit, announcing their own referendums to be held on the same dates as the DNR and LNR.
“We have set a course for reunification, a return to Russia. And we will not turn away from it,” Kherson's Moscow-appointed leader Vladimir Saldo said in a video message.
The Moscow stock exchange was down by more than 10% at one point following the announcements, the Kommersant business daily reported.
Earlier Tuesday, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev called the possible referendums in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions “essential,” saying they would allow Moscow to utilize its full military capability in the region.
"Encroachment onto the territory of Russia is a crime which allows you to use all self-defense forces," Medvedev, who is now the deputy head of Russia's Security Council, said in a post on the Telegram messaging app.
Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also backed the referendums.
“The current situation proves that they [people from the occupied regions] want to be masters of their own destiny,” Lavrov said.
Russian State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said Moscow would support the separatist republics if their residents voted in favor of joining Russia.
“Everything that is happening today (calls to hold referendums) is an absolutely unequivocal ultimatum from Russia to Ukraine and the West,” said Tatiana Stanovaya, a nonresident scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
“To guarantee 'victory,' Putin is ready to hold referendums immediately to get the right (as he thinks) to use nuclear weapons to defend Russian territory,” Stanovaya said in a Telegram post on Tuesday, adding that Putin could use the possible annexation “to threaten the use of nuclear weapons to defend Russian territory.”
Large parts of the industrial Donbas area have been controlled by Moscow-backed separatists since 2014, after nationwide demonstrations ousted Ukraine's Kremlin-friendly president.
Russia at the time annexed the Crimean peninsula from Ukraine with a vote that was criticized by Kyiv and the West, which imposed sanctions in response.
Both Kyiv and its allies in the West have likewise said they will not recognize the results of any new referendums in separatist- or Russia-controlled regions.
And Ukraine on Tuesday vowed to "eliminate" Russian threats against the war-torn country following the separatists' referenda announcements.
"Ukraine will solve the Russian issue. The threat can be eliminated only by force," said the Ukraine presidency's chief of staff, Andriy Yermak.
Pro-Moscow Officials in Occupied Ukraine to Hold Russia Annexation Votes - The Moscow Times
Authorities in separatist- and Russia-occupied regions of Ukraine on Tuesday said they will stage referendums on formally joining Russia in a matter of days.
DIY-HP-LED
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Sounds like desperationRussian Lawmakers Approve Long Jail Terms for Military Surrender, Refusal to Serve
Russian lawmakers passed sweeping legislation Tuesday introducing jail terms of up to 15 years for wartime acts, including surrendering, as the country’s forces face major battlefield setbacks nearly seven months after invading Ukraine.
Voluntary surrender and looting are punished by 10 and 15 years in prison, respectively, with “mobilization, martial law and wartime” listed as aggravating circumstances.
Desertion during mobilization or wartime will be punished by up to 10 years, according to the bill authored by members of all parties represented in parliament.
Conscientious objectors are punished by up to three years in prison during wartime.
The bill introduces the concepts of “mobilization, martial law and wartime” previously not mentioned in the Russian Criminal Code, according to human rights lawyer Pavel Chikov, who first reported on the draft Duma bill.
Observers speculate that its passage paves the way for general mobilization amid Russia’s struggles to replenish its depleting troops in Ukraine.
Soldiers who refuse service can be jailed even without martial law, military lawyer Maxim Grebenyuk told the independent news website Vyorstka, pointing to language in the legislation that punishes soldiers during an “armed conflict.”
The State Duma, Russia’s lower house of parliament, voted unanimously in favor of the bill, Chikov said.
Russia’s upper house of parliament, the Federation Council, is expected to pass the draft bill on Wednesday, according to state media.
The wartime jail terms will then come into force the day President Vladimir Putin signs the bill into law.
Russian Lawmakers Approve Long Jail Terms for Military Surrender, Refusal to Serve - The Moscow Times
Russian lawmakers passed sweeping legislation Tuesday introducing jail terms of up to 15 years for wartime acts, including surrendering, as the country’s forces face major battlefield setbacks nearly seven months after invading Ukraine.
Pro-Moscow Officials in Occupied Ukraine to Hold Russia Annexation Votes
Authorities in separatist- and Russia-occupied regions of Ukraine on Tuesday said they will stage referendums on formally joining Russia in a matter of days.
The announcement comes as Moscow's forces face continued setbacks in their nearly seven-month war against Kyiv, leading to speculation that the Kremlin could announce a wider mobilization to shore up its military.
The Donetsk People's Republic (DNR) and the neighboring Luhansk People's Republic (LNR) will both hold their referendums on Sept. 23-27, officials there said.
DNR leader Denis Pushilin said that a vote on joining Russia was overdue.
"I think that people have long been waiting for a referendum here and it will probably be a political move that will help ensure the safety of civilians," Russian news agencies quoted him as telling state television.
Moscow-installed officials in the occupied Kherson region and partially occupied Zaporizhzhia region soon followed suit, announcing their own referendums to be held on the same dates as the DNR and LNR.
“We have set a course for reunification, a return to Russia. And we will not turn away from it,” Kherson's Moscow-appointed leader Vladimir Saldo said in a video message.
The Moscow stock exchange was down by more than 10% at one point following the announcements, the Kommersant business daily reported.
Earlier Tuesday, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev called the possible referendums in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions “essential,” saying they would allow Moscow to utilize its full military capability in the region.
"Encroachment onto the territory of Russia is a crime which allows you to use all self-defense forces," Medvedev, who is now the deputy head of Russia's Security Council, said in a post on the Telegram messaging app.
Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also backed the referendums.
“The current situation proves that they [people from the occupied regions] want to be masters of their own destiny,” Lavrov said.
Russian State Duma speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said Moscow would support the separatist republics if their residents voted in favor of joining Russia.
“Everything that is happening today (calls to hold referendums) is an absolutely unequivocal ultimatum from Russia to Ukraine and the West,” said Tatiana Stanovaya, a nonresident scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
“To guarantee 'victory,' Putin is ready to hold referendums immediately to get the right (as he thinks) to use nuclear weapons to defend Russian territory,” Stanovaya said in a Telegram post on Tuesday, adding that Putin could use the possible annexation “to threaten the use of nuclear weapons to defend Russian territory.”
Large parts of the industrial Donbas area have been controlled by Moscow-backed separatists since 2014, after nationwide demonstrations ousted Ukraine's Kremlin-friendly president.
Russia at the time annexed the Crimean peninsula from Ukraine with a vote that was criticized by Kyiv and the West, which imposed sanctions in response.
Both Kyiv and its allies in the West have likewise said they will not recognize the results of any new referendums in separatist- or Russia-controlled regions.
And Ukraine on Tuesday vowed to "eliminate" Russian threats against the war-torn country following the separatists' referenda announcements.
"Ukraine will solve the Russian issue. The threat can be eliminated only by force," said the Ukraine presidency's chief of staff, Andriy Yermak.
Pro-Moscow Officials in Occupied Ukraine to Hold Russia Annexation Votes - The Moscow Times
Authorities in separatist- and Russia-occupied regions of Ukraine on Tuesday said they will stage referendums on formally joining Russia in a matter of days.