hanimmal
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Spoken like an account pushing that Assange is a real journalist martyr.
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Lucky Luke
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But its true isnt it?
America has committed lots and lots of war crimes and so has Russia.
Isn't it about time you both had better governments? I'm surprised you don't think so.
hanimmal
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'Bless your heart' trolling?
'lots'. lol sure. Am I remembering right that at the beginning of Russia attacking their neighbor to steal their land you were 'but America'ing' about us helping our ally defend themselves as being somehow the same level of shiftiness? If so I apologize if your feels don't really mean much.
Lucky Luke
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Like you i didnt think Russia would invade.
I'm just pointing out that Americans complaining about Russian war crimes is a little hypocritical. You are just as guilty. Some enlightened ones like PJ and Rob admit and acknowledge the war crimes- they bring it to light. That means there comments around Russian war crimes are more honest.
But hey you be happy about your countries war crimes and bury it. You do you.
Did you know German children are taught about their countries war crimes in school? So they are informed and bear some responsibility. To acknowledge it so that there is less chance of it happening again.
hanimmal
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'Like You'?
I actually believed Biden's administration's warnings that were going out back when Putin was trying to lie about his invasion of his neighbor.
lmao yeah, complaining about the way Putin is using his military to commit the mass murder of innocent citizens and raping children is something Americans as policy are just as guilty of. I am sure you are not just pulling feels out of your ass right?
lmao but it is cool the people pretending like they are not pushing Russian propaganda sticking together to 'what about' is not something that surprises me.
Lucky Luke
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My Lai massacre - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The Mỹ Lai massacre (/ˌmiːˈlaɪ/; Vietnamese: Thảm sát Mỹ Lai [tʰâːm ʂǎːt mǐˀ lāːj] (
listen)) was the mass murder of unarmed South Vietnamese civilians by United States troops in Sơn Tịnh District, South Vietnam, on 16 March 1968 during the Vietnam War. Between 347 and 504 unarmed people were killed by U.S. Army soldiers from Company C, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment and Company B, 4th Battalion, 3rd Infantry Regiment, 11th Brigade, 23rd (Americal) Infantry Division. Victims included men, women, children, and infants. Some of the women were gang-raped and their bodies mutilated, and some mutilated and raped children were as young as 12.[1][2] Twenty-six soldiers were charged with criminal offenses, but only Lieutenant William Calley Jr., a platoon leader in C Company, was convicted. Found guilty of murdering 22 villagers, he was originally given a life sentence, but served three-and-a-half years under house arrest after President Richard Nixon commuted his sentence.
hanimmal
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Half century ago?My Lai massacre - Wikipedia
The Mỹ Lai massacre (/ˌmiːˈlaɪ/; Vietnamese: Thảm sát Mỹ Lai [tʰâːm ʂǎːt mǐˀ lāːj] (
Yeah that sounds about as backwards as Putin and the Russian military is acting currently.
Lucky Luke
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Yep. Your just as bad as each other and deserve better government.
hanimmal
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From someone who is still selling the Assange being a martyr journalist lie I would expect nothing less.
PJ Diaz
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This is old news, but yeah. We're not really a whole lot better.
Shock new details of torture by US troops
· Report tells how prisoners were threatened with rape · Six British soldiers may be arrested over abuse claims.
www.theguardian.com
US troops may have committed war crimes in Afghanistan
American soldiers may have committed war crimes in Afghanistan — including the “cruel and violent” interrogation of prisoners, says the chief prosecutor of the International Crimi…
nypost.com
"American soldiers may have committed war crimes in Afghanistan — including the “cruel and violent” interrogation of prisoners, says the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court.
The prosecutor, Fatou Bensouda, announced in an annual report Monday that a preliminary probe found “reasonable basis to believe that, in the course of interrogating these detainees … members of the US armed forces and the US Central Intelligence Agency resorted to techniques amounting to the commission of the war crimes of torture, cruel treatment, outrages upon personal dignity, and rape.”
The atrocities were believed to have all taken place “in secret detention facilities” operated by the CIA, Bensouda said."
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
PJ Diaz
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It takes a long time for some people to admit that they acted poorly or supported people who made bad choices. I remember 25 years ago or so, my Italian step-mother was offended when I told her that we shouldn't celebrate Columbus Day, because of the atrocities he committed on the native people. I was both mocked and scorned at the time, for the simple suggestion. Fast forward two decades later, and the same people who previously mocked my position on the issue, are now instead celebrating indigenous people's day and reading native land acknowledgements before ceremonies which take place on the stolen lands. I'm often too right too soon.
Native Knowledge 360°—Honoring Original Indigenous Inhabitants: Land Acknowledgment
NK360° Helpful Handouts: Guidance on Common Questions provide a brief introduction to teachers about important topics regarding Native American life, cultures, and communities. Honoring Indigenous Inhabitants: Land Acknowledgment discusses land acknowledgment as a dynamic cultural practice...
americanindian.si.edu
Roger A. Shrubber
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holy shit...i didn't realize the aussies were so blood thirsty.hmm , whats the list of was involving Austrailia....let see
List of wars involving Australia - Wikipedia
and look at the ones in the early years with the indigenious people....hmmm
so they've basically been involved in EVERY conflict that luke has been condemning us for being involved in...and they had their own slaughter of indigenous people...
The US has done some really shitty stuff, no doubt about that, but I'd like to think that people in various countries could still talk about the current atrocities at hand in Ukraine, without hinging their invasion on our past. Germans can't talk about it until we work our way through every citizen to make sure their historical ownership is satisfactory. Nor the Italians. Nor the British. Nor the Canadians. Nor the Aussies. Shit, it might be easier to work in reverse when it comes to past atrocities and ask who isn't on the list. There's a time and place for all that and while Ukraine is in the midst of a hardcore murderous invasion, we may not be doing them the best service by taking attention away from their situation and weaponizing it for our own agendas.
hanimmal
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Yeah the difference is that one is state directed and one as shitty as it is was not.This is old news, but yeah. We're not really a whole lot better.
Shock new details of torture by US troops
· Report tells how prisoners were threatened with rape · Six British soldiers may be arrested over abuse claims.
US troops may have committed war crimes in Afghanistan
American soldiers may have committed war crimes in Afghanistan — including the “cruel and violent” interrogation of prisoners, says the chief prosecutor of the International Crimi…
"American soldiers may have committed war crimes in Afghanistan — including the “cruel and violent” interrogation of prisoners, says the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court.
The prosecutor, Fatou Bensouda, announced in an annual report Monday that a preliminary probe found “reasonable basis to believe that, in the course of interrogating these detainees … members of the US armed forces and the US Central Intelligence Agency resorted to techniques amounting to the commission of the war crimes of torture, cruel treatment, outrages upon personal dignity, and rape.”
The atrocities were believed to have all taken place “in secret detention facilities” operated by the CIA, Bensouda said."
Putin is the actual person behind the slaughtering of those innocent people right now, as in today, not generations ago. It is not the same no matter how much programming is out there saying otherwise.
We all as a species need to do better, but the false equivalency is bullshit. But unfortunately people who are so deep down the rabbit hole that has been constructed for their particular hangups are not going to be able to understand that until they step up and understand the attack they have been under for at least a decade now.
BudmanTX
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If I had my meh gif , I would put it up...js....it's weird how people don't study there own history...
MICHI-CAN
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As if their colonialist dictators would allow it to printed in a history book?
Like Houghton Milfins work with scholastic books out of TX.????????????
Roger A. Shrubber
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i'm past teaching kids, but if i was going to, i doubt i'd have one government approved text book in the whole pile. there are good resources online that you can use to plan out a curriculum, and teach kids things that really happened, science that actually exists...if i had the responsibility forced upon me now, i'd make them go to school, then spend at least a couple of hours every afternoon going over what they were supposed to be learning, and what actually happened, so they aren't retarded little Karens or...Kens? what is the male equivalent of a Karen?
MICHI-CAN
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I need the Death sentence ron thread here. But taking math books out of schools so you can't put two and two together??????
There is war due to a variance in cranial mass as to cranial density.
And I'm the "Me smash!"????????
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Consequences of the morally lazy “both sides” argument.
What to expect when our compadre from way down under manages to imprint on the two most egregious intellectual decepticons our little corner of the net has?
I gather that spinifex makes a rather prickly straw man.
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