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Horselover fat

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The point is the shift in SCALE: when we carpet-bombed Cambodia, it took an entire flight group dropping thousands of bombs in close-order drill. Massively expensive, annoying to pull off, destroyed the countryside. The downsizing & accompanying savings both have made it more ’within reach’ for the small-/non-state actor. This makes it inherently more problematic
No sift in scale. Those are cheap 122mm rockets. Ukraine has been doing exactly what happened in the video a lot before this and so has Russia. War is fucked up.
 

Lucky Luke

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The point is the shift in SCALE: when we carpet-bombed Cambodia, it took an entire flight group dropping thousands of bombs in close-order drill. Massively expensive, annoying to pull off, destroyed the countryside. The downsizing & accompanying savings both have made it more ’within reach’ for the small-/non-state actor. This makes it inherently more problematic
Sad what happened in Cambodia. Another war crime left unpunished. Nixon never faced charges. Didn't he announce the invasion days or weeks after it had already happened?
America still haven't cleared all the unexploded ordinance.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
How big explosives can the Iranian drones carry?
the Geran-2, 5 to 30 kg, with the high number probably affecting controllability.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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It isn't Ukrainian shelling causing the disruption of power, they would not risk contaminating their own land. If they drive south to the sea of Azov, the Russians will have to come out from the nuclear power plant to try and stop them from reaching the southern coast. If they stay, surround them and if they mine the reactors and blow them up, then they will stay there with the radioactivity until they die of it.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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From the scale of the destruction, it had to be a lot of explosive and there looked to be a 5- or 10-ton truck at the middle of it or near the center of the explosion. Who drove the Truck and why? They detonated as they were driving by tanker cars of fuel, and it was on Vlad's birthday or close enough. From the size of the blast, I'd say it had to be a truck, a missile would have taken out the more important rail bridge and not made nearly as big a bang, which seemed big even for a truck bomb. That explosive yield was in the tons, not hundreds of pounds to take down two roadway spans.

 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Moscow is now going to bomb the hell out of Kiev. I thought someone should take a truck full of fuel soaked fertilizer over the bridge but I thought no one would set it off. Guess I was wrong.
i'm fairly sure that anything putin can hit Kiev with, will be in HIMARS range...it would be a nice day or two after birthday present to take out his largest firebase inside russia...

I wonder who was driving the truck? Whoever it was, they deserve a posthumous medal, and their family deserves to know how brave they were.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i'm fairly sure that anything putin can hit Kiev with, will be in HIMARS range...it would be a nice day or two after birthday present to take out his largest firebase inside russia...

I wonder who was driving the truck? Whoever it was, they deserve a posthumous medal, and their family deserves to know how brave they were.
To Monday morning quarterback the suicide bomber, if he pulled to the righthand lane next to the rail he might have gotten the other span too and did more damage to the rail bridge. I guess he might have had other things on his mind before he hit the button. It did look like ANFO and there appeared to be a lot of unexploded stuff flying around burning, ANFO has about half the explosive yield of TNT though.

I'm wondering about the person who drove the truck and why, some guy whose family was wiped out by a Russian bomb? It was planned and supported, it was no lone wolf act and appears to be no surprise to the Ukrainians. Lots of fertilizer and diesel fuel in Crimea and 55-gallon drums aren't hard to find and neither are pissed off Ukrainians.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i'm fairly sure that anything putin can hit Kiev with, will be in HIMARS range...it would be a nice day or two after birthday present to take out his largest firebase inside russia...

I wonder who was driving the truck? Whoever it was, they deserve a posthumous medal, and their family deserves to know how brave they were.
Imagine the destruction if the Ukrainians managed to slip a rail tanker car of ANFO detonated by GPS into that pack of fuel cars, 50 tons of ANFO with a better detonation system and a more complete explosion. The truck that went up look like a 5 or 10 ton probably packed with 55-gallon drums of ANFO, a tanker car would have one large mass of the stuff contained by strong steel walls and set off with a TNT primer for complete detonation. The explosion would have been over ten times larger, and all those fuel cars would be vaporized or pitched for miles like giant flaming Molotov cocktails.
 

printer

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The Russians demanded to punish Ukraine for undermining the Crimean bridge
Users of the social network "Vkontakte" called on the Russian government to "punish Ukraine" for the explosion on the Crimean bridge. According to the Russians, the Ukrainian special services are behind the organization of the incident.

“Zelensky needs to be isolated. Ukraine is a terrorist state,” Anastasia Lyupin wrote on the social network.

The explosion on the Crimean bridge occurred on October 8, reports RT . As a result of the incident, the canvas on the road and railway parts was damaged, according to preliminary data, three people were killed, reports life . The Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation has established alternative routes to the peninsula: a ferry service has been launched, overland routes through new Russian regions have been opened.

Mikhail Podolyak, adviser to the office of the head of the President of Ukraine, hinted that the Kiev authorities were involved in the emergency on the Crimean bridge, writes Channel 360 . Estonia, represented by the country's Foreign Minister Urmas Reinsalu, congratulated the Ukrainian special services on the "successful" undermining of the Crimean bridge.

The movement of cars and buses resumed on the Crimean bridge
The traffic of cars and buses has been resumed on the Crimean bridge. This was stated by the head of the Crimea Sergey Aksyonov.

“The movement of vehicles along the Crimean bridge has begun. At the moment, traffic is open to cars and buses with a full inspection procedure. We ask truck drivers to plan their route using the Kerch ferry crossing. Two hours later, the Kerch-2 ferry begins to sail across the strait, ”Aksenov wrote on Telegram.

The canvas of the road and railway parts of the Crimean bridge was damaged due to a truck explosion on October 8. According to preliminary data from the RF IC, three people died as a result of the incident, reports RT .

From the Crimea established a land corridor through the new regions of Russia
A land transport corridor from Crimea to other regions of Russia has been established through new territories, the peninsula is provided with the necessary food supplies. This was stated by the adviser to the head of the region Oleg Kryuchkov.

“Crimea is provided with food and oil products. The strategic oil storage facilities have been filled. Only one thread of the automotive part was damaged. Two bands are visually intact. A land corridor has been established through new regions,” Kryuchkov wrote on Telegram.

The adviser to the head of the peninsula urged citizens and the media to trust only official information. According to him, the Ukrainian side is actively spreading fakes about the incident.

The explosion on the Crimean bridge occurred on October 8. As a result of partial damage, traffic on the bridge was stopped. Preparations for restoration work have begun in the region, and the Ministry of Transport has launched new logistics routes.

Advisor to the Office of the President of Ukraine Mikhail Podolyak hinted at Ukraine's involvement in the state of emergency. Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed to urgently convene a government commission to investigate the incident. It was headed by Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin.
 

printer

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To Monday morning quarterback the suicide bomber, if he pulled to the righthand lane next to the rail he might have gotten the other span too and did more damage to the rail bridge. I guess he might have had other things on his mind before he hit the button. It did look like ANFO and there appeared to be a lot of unexploded stuff flying around burning, ANFO has about half the explosive yield of TNT though.

I'm wondering about the person who drove the truck and why, some guy whose family was wiped out by a Russian bomb? It was planned and supported, it was no lone wolf act and appears to be no surprise to the Ukrainians. Lots of fertilizer and diesel fuel in Crimea and 55-gallon drums aren't hard to find and neither are pissed off Ukrainians.
The Ukrainians could have detonated it remotely, they might have had a shipping company transport cargo without the driver knowing any different. Would explain being in the far lane.

The identity of the alleged driver of the truck that exploded on the Crimean bridge was revealed
According to preliminary data, the uncle of the owner of the truck, 51-year-old Makhir Yusubov, was driving the truck that exploded on the Crimean bridge. According to the Baza Telegram channel, his relatives identified him from the security screening footage.

According to them, it was Mahir, who was engaged in private transportation, who was the actual owner of the vehicle. A little over a year ago, he re-registered the car for his nephew, but continued to work on it himself.

Earlier, Mash revealed the identity of the owner of the truck, it turned out to be Boris Yusubov. According to the melon Telegram channels Shot and Baza, his name is Samir. The man sold his car to another person, but the new owner has not yet re-registered the truck for himself. Later it became known that the investigators conducted searches at his place.

The explosion of a truck on the Crimean bridge across the Kerch Strait became known on the morning of October 8. As a result, two automobile spans of the bridge partially collapsed , and seven fuel tanks of the railway train caught fire.

According to the UK, three people died due to the incident . Presumably, they were passengers of a passenger car, which was not far from the blown up truck.
 
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