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printer

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- SKYNET is now sentient -
Hunter Killer drone …. OPA !

Take a look at this .

No shots fired. How is it going to stay in position? It will get tossed around by the recoil.

I heard it was very much like a 50cc mini bike motor.
It is suppose to be 50 hp. I just used the example of a leaf blower in that it is a simple engine and not built to aviation standards that US drones are.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
No shots fired. How is it going to stay in position? It will get tossed around by the recoil.


It is suppose to be 50 hp. I just used the example of a leaf blower in that it is a simple engine and not built to aviation standards that US drones are.
It’s also not much to grab onto for an IR homer like a Stinger or a K-13 (Russian AIM-9 equivalent). This puts it into an interesting niche of poor detectability.

I wonder how visible the drones are to look-down radar like Awacs.
If so, attack helicopters on standby should be good at running and gunning the Shahedski down.
 

printer

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‘We may have to make some difficult decisions in Kherson’ Meduza's summary of the first interview given by Russia's new top commander in Ukraine
Overall, the situation in the special military operation zone is tense. Our opponent is a criminal regime, while we and the Ukrainians are one people and want the same thing: for Ukraine to be a country that’s friendly to Russia and independent from the West. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are pulling all of their reserves, including untrained territorial defense forces, to the front; they’re effectively condemning them to destruction. Nationalist detachments are shooting everybody who tries to escape. Every day, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lose 600–1,000 people to death and injuries. We’re not striving for a quick advance, because we take care of every soldier, and because this reduces the number of civilian victims. The situation in the Kherson direction is complicated. In the city itself, there are supply problems. NATO is demanding that Ukraine carry out offensive operations regardless of the number of casualties. We have information that Kyiv might use illegal methods of warfare. Our task is to save lives, and that’s why we’re moving the population out of the area. Our subsequent plans with regard to Kherson will depend on the situation. We haven’t ruled out making some tough decisions.
 

printer

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Russia starts evacuations in occupied Kherson
Russia has initiated the evacuation of civilians in the occupied region of Kherson as Ukraine continues to mount its counteroffensive to regain territory lost during the war.

Vladimir Saldo, the Russia-appointed leader of the region, said in a post on Telegram that Ukraine is building up forces for a large-scale offensive on Kherson, while Russia has formed a force to repel the offensive.

Saldo said immediate danger exists from flooding of the area, accusing Ukraine without evidence of planning to destroy a nearby dam and saying that water from power plants upstream of a river will be released.

He said this led him to decide to order the evacuation of four municipalities to the left bank of the river.
The move comes as Russian President Vladimir Putin announced Wednesday that he will declare martial law in the four regions that Russia recently annexed through referendums that were widely denounced by the international community.
The declaration, which will go into effect Thursday, will give the Kremlin more control over the regions — Kherson, Donetsk, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia.

Saldo said the regional government’s task is to save lives and allow Russian troops to do their jobs. He said the Russian government will provide housing certificates to residents who move further into Russia.

The BBC reported that Ukraine has told civilians to ignore the move.

Reuters reported that Andriy Yermak, the head of the Ukrainian president’s office, accused Russia of attempting to scare residents of Kherson through newsletters accusing Ukraine of planning to shell the city.
Multiple outlets reported that Russia’s top commander in Ukraine, Gen. Sergei Surovikin, said on Russian state television that the situation in Kherson is uneasy and Russia’s control of the city was weakening.
 

BudmanTX

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The Iranian drones use Austrian Rotax boxer engines.
You can see it clearly in the CNN video posted above.
It's probably the most common ultralight aviation engine in the world
it's not a rotax, it's actually a reversed engineered air cool vw motor, just shrunk down a little


Limbach-L550e-UAV-Engine-Four-Cylinder.jpg

i have a few customers that use them here, with the exception they actually use a vw reg air cooled motor in the experiemental air craft

this is a long block in vw air cooled arena
Type-1-Long-Block-A-copy.jpg

this is the companies L2400 versions

Limbach-L-2400-DFi_2FEFi---Liquid-Cooled.jpg

subaru uses something similiar
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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By the time you hear them, they are real close. Small arms fire is tricky trying to hit something moving at that speed. I did hear of them shooting down several with fighters, but they lost two planes doing it. One from the drone blowing up too close to the plane.
they need to have one guy in each squad carrying a 12 gauge with buckshot...would be a lot easy to wing a drone with buckshot than a single projectile.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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No shots fired. How is it going to stay in position? It will get tossed around by the recoil.


It is suppose to be 50 hp. I just used the example of a leaf blower in that it is a simple engine and not built to aviation standards that US drones are.
50 hp is quite a lot for a vehicle that small...i ride a 245 pound scooter that only produces 13 hp and it cruises at 55 easily, with 50 hp that thing should be able to haul ass, at least compared to ground vehicles
 

BudmanTX

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You can clearly see "ROTAX" on the intake plenum in the CNN video above and a few others showing crash wreckage

View attachment 5214787
that's the companies name that builds them


it's engineering start is bases of the 4 cylinder air cooled motor, aka VW.......
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
This is true, most of the time, but there are apparently situations where they have enough time to try to hit one with a rifle, so it couldn't hurt to have your best skeet shooter carry a shotgun.
Shotguns have serious range issues. This chart shows how far typical shotloads can be made to go on a rainbow trajectory.

For goose loads (largest and fewest pellets below buckshot), 50 yards is extreme range. Below that, you are only wounding them. A pissed-off Shahedski still gets to the target.

 
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printer

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Shotguns have serious range issues. This chart shows how far typical shotloads can be made to go on a rainbow trajectory.

For goose loads, 50 yards is extreme range. Below that, you are only wounding them.

Reminds me when I was working in the test lab but with a boss from a different department. One of the guys wanted to know what cops use in their shotguns so I brought a 5 pack of shells in to work. It had the different shot sizes on the back. If I remember correctly they had five pellets that were roughly .32" in diameter. Put the pack in my desk drawer afterwards as I thought it might not be prudent leaving it around. We did have an empty desk policy, I usually took the documents I was working on and stuck them in the drawer before I went home.

A few days later my boss asks me if I am doing any special tests for the lab. I didn't know what he meant, then he said security found a box of shotgun shells in my desk. At first I was confused, then I realized what they found, I normally think of a box of shells as being 25 (or are they 24, it has been a while). Then I told him about the discussion and forgetting to take the box home with me. He said pick them up at the end of the day. Afterwards what we all thought in the lab was, does this mean security goes through our desks at night?

Yeah, you would need to use 0 or 00 shot. And then, you might just 'wing' the drone and it still keep coming at 150 mph.

it's not a rotax, it's actually a reversed engineered air cool vw motor, just shrunk down a little


View attachment 5214783

i have a few customers that use them here, with the exception they actually use a vw reg air cooled motor in the experiemental air craft

this is a long block in vw air cooled arena
View attachment 5214784

this is the companies L2400 versions

View attachment 5214785

subaru uses something similiar
At 16kg dry weight, I want one. Wonder if I would have the balls to fly a home built plan though. The $1000 US (plus shipping) is pretty cheap.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Reminds me when I was working in the test lab but with a boss from a different department. One of the guys wanted to know what cops use in their shotguns so I brought a 5 pack of shells in to work. It had the different shot sizes on the back. If I remember correctly they had five pellets that were roughly .32" in diameter. Put the pack in my desk drawer afterwards as I thought it might not be prudent leaving it around. We did have an empty desk policy, I usually took the documents I was working on and stuck them in the drawer before I went home.

A few days later my boss asks me if I am doing any special tests for the lab. I didn't know what he meant, then he said security found a box of shotgun shells in my desk. At first I was confused, then I realized what they found, I normally think of a box of shells as being 25 (or are they 24, it has been a while). Then I told him about the discussion and forgetting to take the box home with me. He said pick them up at the end of the day. Afterwards what we all thought in the lab was, does this mean security goes through our desks at night?

Yeah, you would need to use 0 or 00 shot. And then, you might just 'wing' the drone and it still keep coming at 150 mph.


At 16kg dry weight, I want one. Wonder if I would have the balls to fly a home built plan though. The $1000 US (plus shipping) is pretty cheap.
I’m pretty sure I don’t want a Chinese two-stroke keeping me airborne.
 
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