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DIY-HP-LED

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Guaranteed he's helping Russia and not our ally. He's devoted his life in the pursuit of harming America and American interests. I can't believe some Americans considered him a hero.
Ukraine is getting their money and if they are aggressive there is more than enough to pay for the damages to Ukraine, compensate the population, pay back loans and even aid. All while building a first-class military and developing its natural resources, paid for by a half a trillion in seized Russian money and assets. Putin is proportied to have $200 billion in the west held via proxies, so far, the damage estimates to Ukraine are in the $150 billion range, so Vlad could cover a lot of it personally.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Guaranteed he's helping Russia and not our ally. He's devoted his life in the pursuit of harming America and American interests. I can't believe some Americans considered him a hero.
Wrong response, the post above yours about them whining about their money being taken
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Bad fucking timing I'd say! And a bad fear driven idea, what would America and Russia talk about? The fate of a people fighting to be free as is their right under the UN charter. They are not fucking chess pieces for imperial thinkers, it's their land and their choice and you want to negotiate with war criminals, liars, mass murders and violators of international law? Negotiations can begin when Russia vacates all of Ukraine including Crimea, stops attacking Ukraine and Putin leaves office. It would be like opening negotiations with Hitler in late 1944 without consulting the allies. What would eastern Europe think about America selling them down the river while "negotiating" with Putin at the big power table that none of them were invited to, Biden taking to a POS like Putin, as if he was a peer and not a mass murder of women and children.

There is nothing to negotiate about with Russia, there are more sanctions that can be applied, however. This is not good for the election and is as bad as the republicans, it gives aid and comfort to America's sworn enemies and disheartens allies.

 

BudmanTX

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Bad fucking timing I'd say! And a bad fear driven idea, what would America and Russia talk about? The fate of a people fighting to be free as is their right under the UN charter. They are not fucking chess pieces for imperial thinkers, it's their land and their choice and you want to negotiate with war criminals, liars, mass murders and violators of international law? Negotiations can begin when Russia vacates all of Ukraine including Crimea, stops attacking Ukraine and Putin leaves office. It would be like opening negotiations with Hitler in late 1944 without consulting the allies. What would eastern Europe think about America selling them down the river while "negotiating" with Putin at the big power table that none of them were invited to, Biden taking to a POS like Putin, as if he was a peer and not a mass murder of women and children.

There is nothing to negotiate about with Russia, there are more sanctions that can be applied, however. This is not good for the election and is as bad as the republicans, it gives aid and comfort to America's sworn enemies and disheartens allies.

oh hell no
 

BudmanTX

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It might be an idea that dies quick, between the calls they will be getting from voters and the party leadership calling them fucking idiots!
lets keep our fingers crossed that it does......right now Ukraine has the push, with Putin crying, let him and russia go down in flames....
 

printer

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Military historian reveals where Ukraine is creating a "dirty bomb"
Ukrainian nuclear physicists are likely building a "dirty bomb" at a uranium mining facility near Dnepropetrovsk. This assumption was made by the military historian Yuri Knutov.

There is a uranium mining enterprise near Dnepropetrovsk, Yury Knutov said. “There is information that a dirty atomic bomb is being created at its base. Moreover, information comes from different countries through intelligence channels, ”the expert told Channel Five .

According to him, Ukraine is capable of creating a "dirty bomb" or a low-yield nuclear weapon. He clarified that there are relevant specialists in the country at the faculties of nuclear physics of Kharkiv and Kyiv universities.

Earlier it was reported about a possible provocation by Kiev with the use of a "dirty bomb" against the civilian population. The plans were to accuse Russia of using weapons of mass destruction. In this regard, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation alerted its forces and means .

Zakharova called Zelensky a terrorist because of a "dirty bomb"
President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky is "Bin Laden number two" (the leader of the terrorist organization Al-Qaeda * banned in Russia) This was stated by Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova. According to her, he was also "his boyfriend" for the United States, and then committed a terrorist attack.

“For the world community, Zelensky is simply Bin Laden number two. Only in European form. It’s probably even scarier, because they feed him with a spoon many times larger than what happened to Bin Laden then, ”Zakharova said on the air of the Big Game program on Channel One. So she commented on the message about the plans of the Kyiv authorities to use a "dirty bomb" during the conflict in Ukraine.

In her opinion, Bin Laden was also "his boyfriend" for the United States, and then committed a terrorist attack. She clarified that this is her "personal opinion".

Earlier, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that Ukraine plans to present the explosion of a “dirty bomb” as the operation of a Russian low-yield nuclear weapon. The US State Department has already expressed its opinion on this matter. They noted that the American authorities do not consider such statements serious.

TASS: Russia asked the UN Security Council to discuss Kyiv's plans to use a "dirty bomb"
Russia requested a discussion of information about Ukraine's preparation of a provocation using a "dirty bomb" in the United Nations Security Council (UN Security Council). This was reported by TASS, citing a source in the organization.

“The discussion will take place after the meeting of the Security Council on Syria (October 25 - ed.),” the agency’s interlocutor assures. It is specified that the discussion will be held in a closed format.

Earlier it was reported about a possible provocation by Kiev with the use of a "dirty bomb" against the civilian population. The plans were to accuse Russia of using weapons of mass destruction. The head of the Russian Defense Ministry, Sergei Shoigu, informed his colleagues from the United States, France, Britain and Turkey about this . The Russian Defense Ministry alerted forces and means in case of undermining the "dirty bomb" by Kiev. Ukrainian politician and manager Volodymyr Oleinik explained how detonating a "dirty bomb" would save the US presidential administration, 360 TV channel reports .

Railway tracks blown up in Bryansk region
On the stretch between the settlements of Novozybkov and Zlynka, an explosive device detonated, damaging the railway tracks. This was announced by the Governor of the Bryansk region Alexander Bogomaz.

“Tonight, an unknown explosive device went off on the stretch between the settlements of Novozybkov and Zlynka,” Alexander Bogomaz wrote in his telegram channel. According to the governor, the railway tracks were damaged as a result of the explosion, there were no casualties.

Earlier it was reported that a car was blown up in Kherson , as a result of which one person died. According to preliminary data, an explosive device was planted in the car.

The White House announced Zelensky's position on negotiations with Russia
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky does not believe that now is the time to negotiate with Russia. This was stated by the coordinator for strategic communications at the National Security Council (NSC) of the White House, John Kirby.

“We certainly appreciate the views expressed by these members of Congress. We know about their letter <...> We appreciate their concern about what is happening <...> in Ukraine, ”Kirby said, his words are reported by RIA Novosti. However, he noted that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky "does not think that now is the time to negotiate." He clarified that a letter to US President Joe Biden was sent by three dozen members of the House of Representatives who adhere to liberal views.

Earlier, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky refused to negotiate with Russia because of referendums on joining the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson to the Russian Federation. He even legitimized such a decision, despite the fact that the Kremlin has repeatedly stated that it is open to negotiations with Ukraine.

Many more article on the Dirty Bomb in the Motherland.
 

BudmanTX

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Military historian reveals where Ukraine is creating a "dirty bomb"
Ukrainian nuclear physicists are likely building a "dirty bomb" at a uranium mining facility near Dnepropetrovsk. This assumption was made by the military historian Yuri Knutov.

There is a uranium mining enterprise near Dnepropetrovsk, Yury Knutov said. “There is information that a dirty atomic bomb is being created at its base. Moreover, information comes from different countries through intelligence channels, ”the expert told Channel Five .

According to him, Ukraine is capable of creating a "dirty bomb" or a low-yield nuclear weapon. He clarified that there are relevant specialists in the country at the faculties of nuclear physics of Kharkiv and Kyiv universities.

Earlier it was reported about a possible provocation by Kiev with the use of a "dirty bomb" against the civilian population. The plans were to accuse Russia of using weapons of mass destruction. In this regard, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation alerted its forces and means .

Zakharova called Zelensky a terrorist because of a "dirty bomb"
President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky is "Bin Laden number two" (the leader of the terrorist organization Al-Qaeda * banned in Russia) This was stated by Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova. According to her, he was also "his boyfriend" for the United States, and then committed a terrorist attack.

“For the world community, Zelensky is simply Bin Laden number two. Only in European form. It’s probably even scarier, because they feed him with a spoon many times larger than what happened to Bin Laden then, ”Zakharova said on the air of the Big Game program on Channel One. So she commented on the message about the plans of the Kyiv authorities to use a "dirty bomb" during the conflict in Ukraine.

In her opinion, Bin Laden was also "his boyfriend" for the United States, and then committed a terrorist attack. She clarified that this is her "personal opinion".

Earlier, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported that Ukraine plans to present the explosion of a “dirty bomb” as the operation of a Russian low-yield nuclear weapon. The US State Department has already expressed its opinion on this matter. They noted that the American authorities do not consider such statements serious.

TASS: Russia asked the UN Security Council to discuss Kyiv's plans to use a "dirty bomb"
Russia requested a discussion of information about Ukraine's preparation of a provocation using a "dirty bomb" in the United Nations Security Council (UN Security Council). This was reported by TASS, citing a source in the organization.

“The discussion will take place after the meeting of the Security Council on Syria (October 25 - ed.),” the agency’s interlocutor assures. It is specified that the discussion will be held in a closed format.

Earlier it was reported about a possible provocation by Kiev with the use of a "dirty bomb" against the civilian population. The plans were to accuse Russia of using weapons of mass destruction. The head of the Russian Defense Ministry, Sergei Shoigu, informed his colleagues from the United States, France, Britain and Turkey about this . The Russian Defense Ministry alerted forces and means in case of undermining the "dirty bomb" by Kiev. Ukrainian politician and manager Volodymyr Oleinik explained how detonating a "dirty bomb" would save the US presidential administration, 360 TV channel reports .

Railway tracks blown up in Bryansk region
On the stretch between the settlements of Novozybkov and Zlynka, an explosive device detonated, damaging the railway tracks. This was announced by the Governor of the Bryansk region Alexander Bogomaz.

“Tonight, an unknown explosive device went off on the stretch between the settlements of Novozybkov and Zlynka,” Alexander Bogomaz wrote in his telegram channel. According to the governor, the railway tracks were damaged as a result of the explosion, there were no casualties.

Earlier it was reported that a car was blown up in Kherson , as a result of which one person died. According to preliminary data, an explosive device was planted in the car.

The White House announced Zelensky's position on negotiations with Russia
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky does not believe that now is the time to negotiate with Russia. This was stated by the coordinator for strategic communications at the National Security Council (NSC) of the White House, John Kirby.

“We certainly appreciate the views expressed by these members of Congress. We know about their letter <...> We appreciate their concern about what is happening <...> in Ukraine, ”Kirby said, his words are reported by RIA Novosti. However, he noted that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky "does not think that now is the time to negotiate." He clarified that a letter to US President Joe Biden was sent by three dozen members of the House of Representatives who adhere to liberal views.

Earlier, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky refused to negotiate with Russia because of referendums on joining the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson to the Russian Federation. He even legitimized such a decision, despite the fact that the Kremlin has repeatedly stated that it is open to negotiations with Ukraine.

Many more article on the Dirty Bomb in the Motherland.
the dirty bomb thing is BS...js

i put something about it in here

 

printer

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The UN Security Council will discuss the issue of preparing a "dirty bomb" by Kyiv in the coming days

The issue of Ukraine preparing a provocation with a "dirty bomb" will be discussed in the near future at a meeting in the UN Security Council, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said following a meeting of the Valdai international discussion club.

He clarified that this information had already been given in detail to the defense ministers of the United States , France , Great Britain and Turkey .

In addition, Lavrov called unsubstantiated statements by Western countries that Kiev does not plan to create a bomb. He also stressed that retaliatory accusations against Moscow in such a situation are not a serious conversation. At the same time, the Foreign Minister noted that representatives of some countries nevertheless offered to discuss at a professional level the information available to Russia.

Later, the official representative of the UN Secretary General, Stephane Dujarric, commented on reports of an impending provocation. He stated that the organization does not have accurate data on this situation. At the same time, he called on the parties to the conflict to avoid steps that could lead to miscalculation or escalation.

According to credible sources in various countries, including Ukraine, the Kyiv regime is preparing a provocation on its territory related to the detonation of a "dirty bomb" - a low-yield nuclear weapon. This will allow accusing the Kremlin of using weapons of mass destruction in the Ukrainian theater of operations and launching a powerful anti-Russian campaign in the world.

From various sources it became known that, under the leadership of Western curators, Kyiv began to implement the plan. The leadership of the Eastern Mining and Processing Plant, located in the city of Zhovti Vody, Dnepropetrovsk region , as well as the Kiev Institute for Nuclear Research, was tasked with making the very "dirty bomb". Work on it is already at the final stage.

Today, Lieutenant-General Igor Kirillov , head of the Radiation, Chemical and Biological Protection Troops of the Russian Armed Forces , said that the Ministry of Defense, in connection with a possible provocation, had prepared forces and means to perform tasks in conditions of radioactive contamination.

A "dirty bomb" is a container with radioactive isotopes and an explosive charge. During detonation, the container is destroyed and the radioactive substance is sprayed by a shock wave, contaminating large areas. As follows from the presentation of the Ministry of Defense, if Ukraine blows up a "dirty bomb", isotopes will spread in the atmosphere at a distance of up to 1,500 kilometers and can cover Poland .
 

DIY-HP-LED

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the dirty bomb thing is BS...js

i put something about it in here

It would be an asymmetrical war weapon for the desperate against a nuclear power that was attacking them with nukes and no help on the way. Ukraine is winning, the war is asymmetrical for the Russians or soon will be and it would be their weapon of desperation. If it went off in Ukraine or the annexed territories, it would be just too obvious and invite the same response as if they used a tactical one. If they use such a dirty bomb on a Russian target as a provocation, someone would have to manufacture it for them and any such persons would get snuffed by Vlad to silence them. They don't have dirty bombs sitting on the shelf, they would be a special order, and everybody would know what it would be for.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Nothing like a surprise attack in mud season when a battle-hardened, well trained and equipped army is ready waiting, prepared and informed about every detail! It won't go well for them, and they are being constantly warned and informed by radio and other means of the dire consequences. As if the destruction of the Russian army in Ukraine wasn't enough to convince them of the folly of attacking. They might be mostly territorials stopping them, but they are more than adequate for the task, with plenty of more territorials from Kyiv, just a few hours away.

 

BudmanTX

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It would be an asymmetrical war weapon for the desperate against a nuclear power that was attacking them with nukes and no help on the way. Ukraine is winning, the war is asymmetrical for the Russians or soon will be and it would be their weapon of desperation. If it went off in Ukraine or the annexed territories, it would be just too obvious and invite the same response as if they used a tactical one. If they use such a dirty bomb on a Russian target as a provocation, someone would have to manufacture it for them and any such persons would get snuffed by Vlad to silence them. They don't have dirty bombs sitting on the shelf, they would be a special order, and everybody would know what it would be for.
well if we going into the manufacturing this kind of project....think i would start looking at iran as well.......
 

DIY-HP-LED

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well if we going into the manufacturing this kind of project....think i would start looking at iran as well.......
Whoever makes something the Russians would use inside their own country as a false flag would mean a death sentence for all involved. Even the guards who liquidated the technical staff would in turn be liquidated to keep Vlad's secret. Iran would have Vlad by the balls and could squeal, or word could get out, if they were involved. So, using one on Russian soil would present problems, those who were involved would be involved in the crime against Russia, there could be no excuse for it. If they are going to do such a thing with a dirty bomb they've been busted, and it would have to be used in Ukraine or the annexed territories and they might as well use a tactical nuke for that. I don't think Vlad can nuke his way out of this shit.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ukraine is getting their money and if they are aggressive there is more than enough to pay for the damages to Ukraine, compensate the population, pay back loans and even aid. All while building a first-class military and developing its natural resources, paid for by a half a trillion in seized Russian money and assets. Putin is purported to have $200 billion in the west held via proxies, so far, the damage estimates to Ukraine are in the $150 billion range, so Vlad could cover a lot of it personally.
 

Budzbuddha

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It might be an idea that dies quick, between the calls they will be getting from voters and the party leadership calling them fucking idiots!
Now is not the time to relinquish pressure on POOTIN Pants - he is desperate/ undermanned and looking for equipment from any source possible.
He can cannot control his male citizens with forced duty - as they run for the hills. Very few want to be on the frontline. Most are the underprepared and low hanging fruit of soldiers. Put them upfront and keep any “ battle ready troops “ ( what remains of them ) farther back.

Conscripts are nothing more than expendable .

We and NATO must continue to support. They are losing ground badly and have very little effectiveness in keeping ground.
The Ukrainians will weather the winter better than most - we must push them deep into the winter months , break them down further.
Negotiations are long gone …. Besides , they are the invaders , what is there to fucking negotiate?
They must be routed , they must fail on all fronts.


They can never be trusted - period. They are wartime criminals. Expect more false flag ops / disinformation and bullshit.

Funny , how years ago Russia actually tried to suppress historical references of Genghis Khan - someone that may have killed up to 40 million people as historians tell it. Eventually the legacy restored in the 1990’s. Both Putin and Khan are and were Revenge seeking maniacs.

Putin needs to die in obscurity.
 
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