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Russia rejoining Ukraine grain shipment agreement
Russia on Wednesday agreed to rejoin a wartime deal to allow grain shipments safe passage out of Ukrainian ports after abruptly halting the deal last week, according to Turkey’s president.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his defense minister had heard from Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu that the deal would “continue in the same way as before” as of noon Wednesday.

Moscow suspended the deal, brokered by Turkey and the United Nations, after a Russian warship in the Black Sea was damaged. Russia blamed the incident on a Ukrainian drone strike.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Russia’s suspension of the deal meant Moscow was “weaponizing food in the war it started,” and officials from the United States and Ukraine accused Russia of bad faith.

Ukrainian President Zelensky accused Russia of creating an “artificial famine,” and U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres jumped into negotiations to revive the crucial humanitarian food corridor.

Ukraine and Russia are both top global suppliers of wheat, barley, sunflower oil and other food, particularly to countries in Africa, the Middle East and parts of Asia.

“This is an absolutely deliberate blockade by Russia. This is an absolutely transparent intention of Russia to return the threat of large-scale famine to Africa and Asia,” Zelensky said last week.

The United Nations and Turkey had both brokered separate deals with Russia and Ukraine this summer to establish the exports’ safe passage as Russia’s war on Ukraine wages on.

Maybe the FU from Turkey saying they are going to continue with the shipments without Russia said to Putin put up or shut up?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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US intelligence is outing the Russians good and at every step they are busting them. Apparently Trump never saw all the top-secret programs and operations. It looks like they have these guys riddled with spies or have advanced technical means of collecting this kind of insider seat at their table intel, they are inside their circle of decision. They are taking an enormous risk of blowing their sources over this and it would be a call Biden would make. They've been doing this since before the invasion in February began and have been doing it whenever the Russians are considering doing something stupid like use a nuke. Intel is only useful if you use it and sometimes you are forced to so you can bust Vlad, limit his options and put him in a box while ya close the lid and bury the fucker.

it would be very interesting to see the difference in the reaction that the russians have to things that trump was briefed on, and the things that he was kept in the dark about.
i'm willing to bet my last dollar, the russians were aware of everything trump was briefed about, and in the dark where trump was in the dark.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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it would be very interesting to see the difference in the reaction that the russians have to things that trump was briefed on, and the things that he was kept in the dark about.
i'm willing to bet my last dollar, the russians were aware of everything trump was briefed about, and in the dark where trump was in the dark.
He knew what they saw fit to put in his daily intelligence brief and I'm sure they held back lot's, fortunately he was never interested in or could understand intelligence, since he lacked any of his own. Strangely it was only after he was booted out of office, did he develop an interest in secret documents, to his mind, what there is of it, the physical tangible documents were of value, the mere print outs, the computer files and content were too abstract for him to grasp. He wanted to use them as blackmail leverage or sell them for cash and favors to America's adversaries. They were money in the bank and insurance against getting busted, or so he thought, I'm sure he was stunned when they searched his home and more so when he is indicted and convicted. He walked right into it and Garland has him on a simple case with heavy prison time for a very serious crime.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Some frank comments from Moscow citizens, they are getting disgusted and bolder, since the army is getting the shit hammered out of it and they started conscription. Vlad's many blunders have become obvious to many and Vlad and those around him must be getting nervous, because the security police don't like incompetence at the top either, it puts them at risk most of all. The army won't like getting blamed and any of the leadership in it who are patriotic won't want to be on the hook for Putin's bad decisions and corruption, most of the money was stolen at the very top of the government and Putin was the chief kleptocrat. The organization is a reflection of the leadership, and the underlings emulate the big boss and espouse his values, including corruption and crime.

This video is kinda surprising, they don't seem very afraid of Vlad and how will he keep a kid on this with an election coming will be problematic, one that might be too big and violent to steal. By the time there is a Russian election, Vlad and his party should be in a Helluva pickle after being driven out of all of Ukraine in humiliation. These other Oligarch guys might think they can grab for power, but there is a legal and recognized order of succession and there must be elections too. Any coup would be temporary, and elections would decide without the usual bullshit.


'Only Putin Will Be Left In His Bunker': Muscovites Asked How The War In Ukraine Is Going

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DIY-HP-LED

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Looks like effective economical defense against Iranian drones. The other bigger systems can be used on cruise and ballistic missiles. With a change in government in Israel (Bebe is back), there might be a change in policy on Ukraine, since Iran is on the Russian side and might be trading drones for nuclear technology. If they are trading nuclear shit for drones and the Israelis get wind of it, there will be iron dome for Ukraine. The Saudis would be freaking out for Patriots and MBS would consider it a stab in the back from Vlad with more money going to Ukraine out of spite.

 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Must be getting low to be using North Korean old stock.

russia, china, north korea, iran, syria, chechnya...i think they've all been drinking from the same big witch's cauldron of koolaid.
they're all already under sanctions, they have to know that their continued existence is due to the rest of the world being more civilized than they are. do they think for one second that we can't see every fucking shady ass thing they do? do they think we'll forget about it? do they think they have what it takes to do a fucking thing about any of it?
there is one border crossing between north korea and russia, the friendship bridge over the tumen river...be a shame if something happened to that bridge...
 

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russia, china, north korea, iran, syria, chechnya...i think they've all been drinking from the same big witch's cauldron of koolaid.
they're all already under sanctions, they have to know that their continued existence is due to the rest of the world being more civilized than they are. do they think for one second that we can't see every fucking shady ass thing they do? do they think we'll forget about it? do they think they have what it takes to do a fucking thing about any of it?
there is one border crossing between north korea and russia, the friendship bridge over the tumen river...be a shame if something happened to that bridge...
Birds of a feather...
 

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Is the Russian opposition making a dent in Putin's regime? | Conflict Zone

"To confront this regime is, I think, a duty of any reasonable person," says Vladimir Ashurkov, a Russian opposition activist living in exile and an associate of Putin's best-known critic, now jailed, Alexei Navalny. But their organisation, the Anti-Corruption Foundation – banned by Moscow as an "extremist" group – has been clear that the Russian people are not going to overthrow Putin. So, can Ashurkov and his allies justify the risks they are asking people to take to resist in Russia?
 

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Putin announced the resumption of the grain deal
Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the country's return to participation in the grain deal during a telephone conversation with Indonesian President Joko Widodo. This was reported on the website of the President of Russia.

“[Putin informed Widodo] that, having received the necessary guarantees from the Ukrainian side that the humanitarian route will not be used for military purposes, Russia is resuming the implementation of the ‘grain deal’,” the summary of a telephone conversation between the Russian and Indonesian presidents, published on the Kremlin website, reads. During the conversation, Putin noted Russia's readiness to provide significant amounts of grain to the poorest countries free of charge as humanitarian aid. Widodo, in turn, supported such an initiative.

Russia withdrew from the grain deal on 29 October. This happened after the attack of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of the Russian ships of the Black Sea Fleet, which were involved in ensuring the safety of the export of grain. On November 2, Russia resumed participation in the grain deal after receiving the necessary security guarantees from Ukraine. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation noted that these guarantees were received thanks to the participation of the UN, as well as the assistance of Turkey, the National News Service reports . The UN welcomed Russia's similar decision, RT reports .

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The investigation is over, the perpetrators have been identified? And punished?

Do not appreciate, steal, deceive! I don't trust them one iota!

I am against the free supply of grain. Our bread is becoming more expensive. And supposedly we give gifts to rogue friends. And we Russians have also become the same rogue.

No, well, Ukrainian let them distribute to whom they want, but not Russian bread for nothing! Well, fuck these eternally hungry "friends-comrades" who would help Russia in hard times, but no, they even vote against Russia, in extreme cases they keep silent. And there are free fertilizers in line. I personally AGAINST, well, fuck them !

... Russia is ready to provide significant amounts of grain to the poorest countries for free ... Again, free of charge, but what are we the richest to give to everyone? Maybe it's time to stop this farce of charity?

Evil, you don't have that ability to stop. Whoever it was.

Some kind of socialism again...

Wow So you can not fight not to kill but to negotiate It would always be like this

Let Khokhlyatsky grain be distributed for free

Well, Ukrainian grain is being exported

This is a great move by the President.

After all, Ukraine will violate the agreement anyway, no matter how many wolves you feed, it still looks from the forest.

Grain is exported from Ukraine

They say that the grain of Turkish producers is exported from the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. Ukrainians gave away their lands. There is simply no Ukrainian grain there. And Erdogan will not miss his.

Was it worth giving up then? And when will our bread become twice as cheap, if we are going to give away grain for free?

Didn't come out, stopped. Big difference. No need to be confused

Help other countries for free, but raise prices with your own. awesome

There are no words.....

Who do you believe, crests, as always, "I gave my word, I took it"

Yes, and no one doubted. The rules must be observed. Well, you think the ships were damaged, but we will do it, but if Ukraine does not sell grain, Europe may be upset

People will have more questions...

Not only have they resumed grain free of charge for the starving, it's ridiculous!!! Distribute grain for free to Russian pensioners in the villages, it will be better the more good it will be!

Naive! We found someone to trust the UN and Ukraine.

Maybe it's time to introduce bread in Russia (1 loaf of at least 800g, white or black, to choose from) for free for people over 60 at least! Hello?

Flour for the elderly is harmful!
And people are dying...

Eyewitnesses reported that in 1914 there was an incredible upsurge of patriotic sentiments among the citizens who rallied around the Emperor!

And when will bread be free for poor Russians? Question

What can I say (well done) and most importantly Ukraine will give guarantees, it's just wonderful. Let's guys believe in an owl, supply the European Union with free grain.

Oh, how little is needed for happiness!)))

Not a cheapskate

The leader knows what he's doing

10% for charity..

free cheese

Most likely for free, but not entirely for nothing, that is, they will not pay with money, but Russia will have something for this, but we won’t know what))

Russia is a generous soul. There was such a caricature - Nikita Sergeevich is standing dressed in rags, HAS PLACED A VISOR TO THE FOREHEAD AND LOOKING AWAY. Signature - WHO SHOULD HELP ELSE? Looks like history is repeating itself.

We also believed them for 8 years ...

I think the free grain is going over like a lead balloon. But heck, it is only stolen Ukrainian grain anyway.

Erdogan named the countries that will be the first to receive Russian grain
Russia and Turkey can primarily supply grain to Djibouti, Somalia and Sudan. This was stated by Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

“We can [start delivering food] to Djibouti, Somalia and Sudan,” Erdogan said, referring to the words of Russian President Vladimir Putin in an interview with A Haber TV channel. According to him, Russia has shown a positive approach to resolving the issue of the grain deal.

Russia withdrew from the grain deal on 29 October. This happened after the attack of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of the Russian ships of the Black Sea Fleet, which were involved in ensuring the safety of the export of grain. On November 2, Russia resumed participation in the grain deal after receiving the necessary security guarantees from Ukraine. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation noted that these guarantees were obtained thanks to the assistance of Turkey, the National News Service reports. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky thanked Erdogan for keeping the grain deal alive.

Erdogan named a possible location for a gas hub in Turkey
The location of the gas hub will most likely be the Trakya region in northwestern Turkey, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said in an interview with A Haber TV channel.

“According to preliminary estimates, Trakya is most likely the most convenient place. Now our Ministry of Energy is working with Russian partners,” the head of state specified. Earlier Wednesday, Anadolu reported that a roadmap for the project could be released by the end of the year.

In October, Vladimir Putin proposed to create a gas hub in Turkey . According to him, this will make it possible to make up for the lost volumes of pumping through Nord Stream. As the president stressed, such a decision is economically feasible, and the level of security will be much higher.
Later, at a meeting with the Turkish leader, Putin noted that the creation of the hub would allow the price to be calmly regulated "at a normal, market level, without any political overtones." As Tayyip Erdogan noted, he and his Russian colleague reached an agreement on this issue, and Europe will be able to receive Russian gas through Turkey.
 
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