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Roger A. Shrubber

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Little late dumbass, maybe you should talk to your defense guy that just bought a new boat...eh

modernization? how about just actually having the shit in the store rooms it's supposed to be in, instead of being sold off because you and your buddies keep the money you're supposed to use to pay the military? are we sure putin isn't a republican? he sure is good at their kind of shit, blaming everyone on the planet for his own fucking mess.
 

printer

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Swiss again reject German request to re-export Swiss ammunition to Ukraine
Switzerland has again rejected an appeal from Germany to allow it to re-export Swiss-made ammunition to Ukraine, the government said on Thursday, saying such a move would violate Swiss neutrality.

German Defence Minister Christine Lambrecht had written to the government in Bern last month asking for permission to supply 12,400 rounds of Swiss-made ammunition for Gepard anti-aircraft tanks that Berlin has already supplied to Ukraine to help in its war with Russia.

But Swiss Economy Minister Guy Parmelin gave the same response the Swiss government had given in June when it rejected an earlier request.

"Under the principle of equal treatment in neutrality law, Switzerland cannot agree to a request for the transfer of war materiel of Swiss origin to Ukraine as long as the latter is involved in an international armed conflict," the government said.

"As the legal situation remains unchanged, approval of a transfer of Swiss war materiel by Germany to Ukraine is still not possible," it added.

The 35mm shells were originally supplied by Swiss companies to the German army decades ago on the condition that it could not re-export the munitions without Swiss approval.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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'Blunder': Expert analyzes Putin's move

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Jill Dougherty, a Georgetown professor and the former Moscow bureau chief for CNN, discusses Vladimir Putin's decision to resume participation in a grain deal that allows Ukraine to ship wheat to countries around the world. #CNN #news
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Swiss again reject German request to re-export Swiss ammunition to Ukraine
Switzerland has again rejected an appeal from Germany to allow it to re-export Swiss-made ammunition to Ukraine, the government said on Thursday, saying such a move would violate Swiss neutrality.

German Defence Minister Christine Lambrecht had written to the government in Bern last month asking for permission to supply 12,400 rounds of Swiss-made ammunition for Gepard anti-aircraft tanks that Berlin has already supplied to Ukraine to help in its war with Russia.

But Swiss Economy Minister Guy Parmelin gave the same response the Swiss government had given in June when it rejected an earlier request.

"Under the principle of equal treatment in neutrality law, Switzerland cannot agree to a request for the transfer of war materiel of Swiss origin to Ukraine as long as the latter is involved in an international armed conflict," the government said.

"As the legal situation remains unchanged, approval of a transfer of Swiss war materiel by Germany to Ukraine is still not possible," it added.

The 35mm shells were originally supplied by Swiss companies to the German army decades ago on the condition that it could not re-export the munitions without Swiss approval.

they can make "war materiel" but you can't use it in a war? once again, the swiss prove they are as useful as tits on a boar...and fucking hypocrites, as well.
 

BudmanTX

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Are Russians really abandoning Kherson?!
i saw that picture earlier....kinda makes ya think in a way...some reports say it's gonna be a street to street battle for it, other say the russian are abandoning it.....guess time will tell who is right....
 

DIY-HP-LED

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true....gonna be interesting in the years to come in that arena
Yep, Vlad opened up a real can of worms on his doorsteps, both front and back! Belarus is giving all of its equipment and ammo to Russia FFS and can't attack Ukraine without committing suicide. They would all be dead inside 20km of the border, maybe closer and so would the Russians behind them herding them like cattle to the slaughter. If you thought Poland was active in this war, wait till you see the Polish and Baltic nation's reaction to that! News of the slaughter of their troops and how would be broadcast into Belarus along with video of interviews with prisoners and survivors. Lukashenko would be in Russia or hung in Minsk and the arms and training would start flowing to the rebels while those fighting in Ukraine would come home to fight there. It would not end well for Vlad, and Belarus would be the next domino to fall and put western broadcasters and missiles on his doorstep from west and south.

Vlad is in a bad way, if he fucks with Turkey and the grain shipments, they will sink his Black Sea Fleet and level his palace by the sea in Sochi with naval gunfire, maybe with him in it! :lol: If Ukraine gets Crimea back Vlad won't be safe in Sochi either, drones and missiles can go the distance and by next year who knows what Ukraine might have, that could do the job. It might be illegal for Uncle Sam to snuff Vlad, but not for Ukraine, they do have plenty of motive and he tried to kill Zelenskiy on several occasions. If they did Vlad, nobody would shed a tear or give a fuck, there would be a sense of relief in Moscow and perhaps a thank you note... :lol: Ukraine wouldn't take responsibility for the hundreds of drones that swarm attacked his palace at Sochi and left it a ruin, like it was located in Ukraine.

Vlad would miss his summer home on the Black Sea it was an old Soviet favorite vacation spot and still is. I think Crimea will be getting a lot of western and central tourist trade, a lot of Europeans driving there and camping etc. The Russian tourists will be replaced by richer ones from the EU and it shouldn't take long, first the post war tourists to see the places in the news and damage, then others would follow. Many EU countries get a lot of their revenue from tourism a sizable chunk in many cases, and I can see Ukraine doing well here with EU tourism and camping.
 
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BudmanTX

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Yep, Vlad opened up a real can of worms on his doorsteps, both front and back! Belarus is giving all of its equipment and ammo to Russia FFS and can't attack Ukraine without committing suicide. They would all be dead inside 20km of the border, maybe closer and so would the Russians behind them herding them like cattle to the slaughter. If you thought Poland was active in this war, wait till you see the Polish and Baltic nation's reaction to that! News of the slaughter of their troops and how would be broadcast into Belarus along with video of interviews with prisoners and survivors. Lukashenko would be in Russia or hung in Minsk and the arms and training would start flowing to the rebels while those fighting in Ukraine would come home to fight there. It would not end well for Vlad, and Belarus would be the next domino to fall and put western broadcasters and missiles on his doorstep from west and south.

Vlad is in a bad way, if he fucks with Turkey and the grain shipments, they will sink his Black Sea Fleet and level his palace by the sea in Sochi with naval gunfire, maybe with him in it! :lol: If Ukraine gets Crimea back Vlad won't be safe in Sochi either, drones and missiles can go the distance and by next year who knows what Ukraine that might have could do the job. It might be illegal for Uncle Sam to snuff Vlad, but not for Ukraine!
i saw in a couple of reports, that if the Belarusian military is order to go in Ukraine, that they would all desert and just plainly leave.....now that would be a site to see.....

Lushy: Order the military to go into Ukrain....

Other guy : uh comrade.....

Lushy: What!

Other guy: they're all gone...

Lushy: :shock:
 

doublejj

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Back in the early 1960's I was 12/13 years old, I lived on the Black Sea. My father was an engineer & work for a company that did technical support for the Air Force. I believe he work on secret nukes when we had them in Turkey but he would never talk about what he was working on. We lived in a small Turkish town on the black sea called Samsun. On the bluffs overlooking the town was an Air Force base. Most of the base was a regular air force base with air field, commissary, health clinic, gym, theater ect. but a good portion was double fenced off and top secret only entrance. Our family were civilians however since my dad was retired military we all had dependent ID cards and the base commander allowed us to access most of the base facilities. On a clear day from the bluffs you could look out across the Black Sea and see the faint outline of a mountain range. I was in the hobby shop working on a model airplane and looking out the window at the sea when a GI told me that the mountains was the USSR.....:o
 
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doublejj

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The Air Force base also had a skeet and trap range, where I first fired a shotgun. One day on the range I looked out to the Black Sea and was excited to see a huge whale sitting just off shore. I excitedly pointed it out to the Airmen and they laughed and told me that wasn't a whale, it was a Russian Sub listening to our conversation :shock: .....I still have the patch I earned for hitting my first clay pigeon.
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printer

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Kherson authorities explained the absence of the Russian flag in the city center
The Russian flag in the center of Kherson was removed due to the relocation of the regional administration to Genichesk. This was reported to a URA.RU correspondent in the regional administration.

“The government of the Kherson region was transferred to Genichesk last week in full force. Here is the place of her temporary deployment. The building on the square housed the Regional State Administration of Ukraine. Initially, there were no Russian administrative departments there, the building was mothballed, ”the administration reports.

Genichesk (port city along the Sea of Azov)
 
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