BudmanTX
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yeah i just came across something like that, it was a vid of one of the guy who was there and described it....what's good for the gander is good for the goose....
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DIY-HP-LED
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To join with the west it must be so, they must go the way of Ukraine and it's example will mean a lot to Belarus and even to Russia as a way forward. Also, courage is contagious and the bear is being bleed white and strangled in Ukraine, there will never be a better time for them to break free. We will see, in a leadership struggle inside Russia, the place could start coming apart, as the central government changes and some regional governments could declare independence. That would be the best time for Belarus to go, in the midst of the Russians chaos and confusion.
DIY-HP-LED
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It's a good way to get summarily executed on the battlefield after a quick trial at an HQ...
DIY-HP-LED
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Let's talk about a trend and ideological consistency....
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I wonder how many appliances had to give up their chips to make one of these.
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Russia Threatens To Unleash 'Combat Robot' To Burn Ukraine's US & German-Origin Abrams & Leopard 2 Tanks
Marker is an unmanned ground vehicle that resembles a tank in appearance, if not in weapons. It also features a tracked platform like a tank
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DIY-HP-LED
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The Ukrainians are making the Russians pay for Bakhmut in blood, I can just imagine the Russian artillery being systematically destroyed by Ukrainians using M777s with superior range, counter battery radars and drones. They can't be lasting long if they don't shoot and scoot and even that might not help them. Likewise their ammo dumps and C&C in the rear must be getting HIMARSed too. It's not just the suckers at the front that are getting slaughtered, the ones in the rear holding the guns at their backs are high priority targets for drones and mortars.
The Russians are attacking and the Ukrainians defending from dug in positions in an urban warfare environment at times, with the Russians absorbing far more losses than the Ukrainians. At the rate they are using up the Russian army, I can see why they are in no hurry to go on the offensive. Another few months of this shit and the Russians will be largely spent attacking Bakhmut, the Ukrainians don't have a lot of troops or tanks there except for artillery and that has a lot of trade killing Russian human wave attacks and taking out guns with counter battery radar fire. By spring the Russians should be in pretty rough shape and the Ukrainians will be driving new tanks to spearhead a breakthrough blitzkrieg attack.
‘Caldron of fire’: Battle between Ukrainian forces and Wagner group intensifies in Bakhmut
128,430 views Jan 27, 2023 #CNN #News
Wagner fighters have been locked in a long battle of attrition with Ukrainian forces as they've taken the town of Soledar and are now engaged in the assault on Bakhmut and surrounding villages. Ukrainian officials say Wagner has sent waves of infantry toward their positions and have suffered heavy losses in the process. CNN’s Fred Pleitgen reports.
The Russians are attacking and the Ukrainians defending from dug in positions in an urban warfare environment at times, with the Russians absorbing far more losses than the Ukrainians. At the rate they are using up the Russian army, I can see why they are in no hurry to go on the offensive. Another few months of this shit and the Russians will be largely spent attacking Bakhmut, the Ukrainians don't have a lot of troops or tanks there except for artillery and that has a lot of trade killing Russian human wave attacks and taking out guns with counter battery radar fire. By spring the Russians should be in pretty rough shape and the Ukrainians will be driving new tanks to spearhead a breakthrough blitzkrieg attack.
‘Caldron of fire’: Battle between Ukrainian forces and Wagner group intensifies in Bakhmut
128,430 views Jan 27, 2023 #CNN #News
Wagner fighters have been locked in a long battle of attrition with Ukrainian forces as they've taken the town of Soledar and are now engaged in the assault on Bakhmut and surrounding villages. Ukrainian officials say Wagner has sent waves of infantry toward their positions and have suffered heavy losses in the process. CNN’s Fred Pleitgen reports.
Roger A. Shrubber
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Well, the upside is that it'll get your whites whiter, and keep your vodka colder, than any other combat bot out there...I wonder how many appliances had to give up their chips to make one of these.
Russia Threatens To Unleash 'Combat Robot' To Burn Ukraine's US & German-Origin Abrams & Leopard 2 Tanks
Marker is an unmanned ground vehicle that resembles a tank in appearance, if not in weapons. It also features a tracked platform like a tank
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
this too is war.
Uncle Sam slaps $10m bounty on Hive while Russia ban-hammers FBI, CIA
New meaning to sweetening the pot
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Yeah, but when her stove is bereft of Beetronics and Cabbanetics (to say nothing of Blintelligentsia and Gazprogram) poor Olga’s borscht is gonna be the worscht.
Roger A. Shrubber
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it's beet soup...it's already the worst..and extra ch won't make it any worse.
it starts off as decent vegetable beef soup...and then they put beets in it...i'm out.
DIY-HP-LED
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The M1s will be for the post war Ukrainian army, because by the time they get there the Russians should be gone. They must be preparing "special" ones for them, with equipment stripped out, because there are plenty of Abrams just across the border in Poland along with a logistical train and training for their troops. Then again, Canada is sending just 4 leopards, but I figure many more later because we have tanks in Europe too. If they are being held back because of NATO commitments, then it is time for everybody to review those commitments in light of a new reality. Their purpose was to defend against Russian aggression in Europe and that is what they should do, in Ukraine, not in Europe. They were built to destroy the Russian army and once they do it, they won't be needed in Europe again for a long time, if ever.
Obviously the Pentagon believes the Ukrainians can do the job with what they are being given now and the Russians are close to collapse. Mud season might not be far away, a few days of rain and warm temps could start it, Vlad attacked on Feb 24th last year and I don't think the ground was frozen enough for tanks then. We are only less than a month away from the anniversary of that attack, so major offensive armor operations could be off the table until late spring. This could all be the result of climate change, decades ago the ground would freeze down to 6 feet in some places and would stay frozen from early winter until spring. You would probably need at least a foot of frost into the ground to support a 50 or 70 ton armored vehicle. They have long range forecasts now that can predict what kind of winter it will be in Ukraine generally and it appears to be a mild one, so no big offenses until the ground dries
Obviously the Pentagon believes the Ukrainians can do the job with what they are being given now and the Russians are close to collapse. Mud season might not be far away, a few days of rain and warm temps could start it, Vlad attacked on Feb 24th last year and I don't think the ground was frozen enough for tanks then. We are only less than a month away from the anniversary of that attack, so major offensive armor operations could be off the table until late spring. This could all be the result of climate change, decades ago the ground would freeze down to 6 feet in some places and would stay frozen from early winter until spring. You would probably need at least a foot of frost into the ground to support a 50 or 70 ton armored vehicle. They have long range forecasts now that can predict what kind of winter it will be in Ukraine generally and it appears to be a mild one, so no big offenses until the ground dries
Roger A. Shrubber
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with Kadyrov, Lukashenko, and erdogan still in power, and fascist parties at the very least maintaining their size and influence, i wouldn't disarm unilaterally any time soon
Roger A. Shrubber
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I think it's partially a logistical problem, partly a training problem, and they want to remove some of the more sensitive tech in case the russians get their hands on one. the Abrams is an unnecessarily complicated vehicle, and it takes 22 weeks for an American soldier to be trained to operate one. so add transit time, time to strip the classified tech, and training, and a year sounds about right...which is why i was saying why bother to send them at all? the less complicated (but still highly effective) leopard tanks would have been of so much more use.
DIY-HP-LED
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Yep, strip Canada of leopards and send them, no need to backfill at home for now and Uncle Sam can backfill for us in Europe.
Roger A. Shrubber
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/world/ukraine-tanks-western-allies-intl-hnk/index.html
I'm not even trying to be inflammatory, but seriously, who gives a fuck what north korea thinks? South Korea, since they look at them every morning...Otherwise, fucking no one...north korea would require one NATO bombing run to totally obliterate. kim has to know that, and it has to chap his fat ass...And again, who gives a fuck?
The north korean rhetoric is priceless though. I'm guessing all the books in their libraries were written by lenin, stalin, mao, ho chi minh, che guevera, rose wilder lane, ayn rand, and that lysander whatever fuckhead robroy keeps quoting...
I'm not even trying to be inflammatory, but seriously, who gives a fuck what north korea thinks? South Korea, since they look at them every morning...Otherwise, fucking no one...north korea would require one NATO bombing run to totally obliterate. kim has to know that, and it has to chap his fat ass...And again, who gives a fuck?
The north korean rhetoric is priceless though. I'm guessing all the books in their libraries were written by lenin, stalin, mao, ho chi minh, che guevera, rose wilder lane, ayn rand, and that lysander whatever fuckhead robroy keeps quoting...
DIY-HP-LED
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No need to disarm, but the scale of the main threat will be either gone or diminished enough. Erdogan is facing election, is part of NATO and nearly bankrupt, he is more an authoritarian than dictator. Lukashenko might go down with Vlad, I don't think he is gonna last long with Russia defeated and fucked economically. Kadyrov has many enemies, some of whom are fighting, networking and recruiting in Ukraine now, while getting friendly with western intelligence agencies, including the Ukrainians. Once Vlad goes, Kadyrov could be very vulnerable, depending on who or what replaces him.
DIY-HP-LED
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Another thing about Kadyrov, he has many enemies at home and has killed off most of his own most loyal men in Ukraine. His most dangerous enemies are in Ukraine fighting, meeting up, networking and getting outside support. Regime change in Moscow could see him killed, imprisoned or isolated at home with no resupply of arms and equipment. With the war in Ukraine over, the boys will be coming home, more of his enemies than his loyal troops. His enemies will be experienced, trained, armed, equipped and supported by someone... They are Muslim, so it might be a good way for the Saudi's or others to show some support and give some cash to the cause, not very much would be required.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
put a feral teddy bear in the hatch and that’s something from Lucas.
DIY-HP-LED
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The pentagon is in no panic about it and Joe isn't about to let Ukraine fall to the Russians, leopards can do the job, provided there are enough. Tanks are used for offensive operations and not needed so much for defense these days and there will be no large scale armor operations by either side unless the soil conditions support it. We have pretty good long range weather forecasting and there is global climate change to consider, so maybe that could be the issue with a Ukrainian winter offensive too. A spell of warm rainy weather could spell disaster once such a thing is launched and cut off the spearheads from resupply in enemy controlled territory.
DIY-HP-LED
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Adm. Stavridis: “Putin owns this problem”
2,070 views Jan 28, 2023 #Russia #Ukraine #Germany
Following much consternation, Germany now plans to send 14 sophisticated Leopard-2 tanks to Ukraine while authorizing other European nations to send more, as the U.S. pledges 31 advanced Abrams M1 tanks. Former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO Adm. James Stavridis says those tanks will help, but combat aircrafts are the “next big need on the battlefield” for the Ukrainians.