cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
paywalls don’t amuse me.
War
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Roger A. Shrubber
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for god's sake, get a browser with reader mode...
Firefox has a button in the address bar, click it and you get the cached article, sometimes without graphics, but still readable.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
one difference is that the impact patterns of a hundred-plus years ago were a pretty smooth carpet. Note photo of Passchendaele from 1917.
This is less a function of the gun’s inherent accuracy, although this too has improved with tighter manufacturing tolerances on guns and shells.
More important is shot placement. This relies on real-time forward observation, which is provided to high precision by drones or higher-altitude assets. The other factor is computerized ballistics- no need to waste shots on bracketing the target.
If you compare the photos of the recent shelling in the Donbas, there are much fewer off-target strikes.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Or you might c&p the bits you want to highlight … I know; revolutionary concept
Bagginski
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Their jokes are stale & their timing sux
Roger A. Shrubber
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i can, since getting any useful technology is too much effort for you....
Growing up in St. Petersburg, Dasha, a 29-year-old marketer and artist, dreamed of having a “complete family.” Raised by her mother and grandmother, her father left when she was in elementary school.
”I grew up thinking that I would be married and have a family of my own before I turned 25,” she told Fortune.
But Russia’s political instability and financial uncertainties have recently led her to renounce having kids. In Dasha’s lifetime, Russian President Vladimir Putin has invaded Ukraine twice; the war’s consequences have taken a heavy toll on everyday Russians like her. Life in Russia has become “too complex,” she says, with money worries coupled with fears over an increasingly autocratic government.
Dasha is just one of many young Russians whose stance toward having children is indicative of the economic and political anxieties facing the country today. Fortune chose not to publish the full names of the people interviewed due to concerns of government reprisals.
Since the Soviet Union’s collapse in 1991, Russia has confronted a continued population slump due to low birth rates coupled with high mortality rates. Throughout his rule, Russian President Vladimir Putin has obsessed over Russia’s shrinking population. Last year, Putin encouraged Russians to build a “strong family [with] two, three, or four children. [This] should be the image of a future Russia.” This August, he revived the Soviet-era “Mother Heroine” award, which pays $16,000 to women who have 10 or more children.
But recent Kremlin actions, like its botched pandemic response and its war in Ukraine, shows that “Putin’s regime doesn’t serve the Russian people,” Dasha said. Young Russians now facing an increasingly precarious future are delaying or refusing to have kids—or leaving the country for the sake of their kids—potentially spelling trouble for Putin’s vision of a strong country and a big population.
Historic decline
When Putin came to power in 2000, Russia’s fertility rate was 1.25 births per woman—its lowest point ever. In 2006, he described Russia’s demographic decline as “the most acute problem facing our country today”; boosting Russia’s population has been at the top of his agenda since.
The following year, the Kremlin launched its “maternity capital” scheme—an unprecedented program to increase birth rates through incentives like extended maternity leave and cash handouts for families with kids, helped in part by the 2000s oil boom. In the early 2010s, as the Kremlin began doling out family benefits and millennials came of age, Russia saw a modest jump in birth rates—from 1.3 births per woman in 2006 to 1.8 in 2014—but that proved to be only temporary.
After Russia’s 2014 invasion of Crimea, the country’s fertility rates started dropping again, dipping to 1.6 in 2017 to 1.5 by 2019—much lower than the 2.1 rate needed to keep a population stable without migration.
Russia’s economy and living standards were hurt by the 2008 global financial crisis and subsequent fall in oil prices. But the Kremlin’s 2014 Crimea invasion led to a collapse in foreign investment—FDI shrank to $6.8 billion in 2015 from $69 billion in 2013. Meanwhile Russians’ disposable incomes plummeted 13% from 2014 to 2018, nurturing uncertainties about the future and family planning. “Things have been pretty bad for us since 2014,” Dasha said.
Then came Putin’s “incompetent management” of the COVID-19 pandemic, which exacerbated Russia’s population decline overall, economist Sergei Guriev, provost at Paris’s Science Po and research fellow at the Center for Economic Policy Research, told Fortune. The state-produced Sputnik vaccine failed to win the public’s trust, resulting in one of the lowest vaccination rates in the world (only 54% of Russia’s adult population is fully vaccinated)—and one of the worst COVID mortality rates. Russia recorded 1 million deaths in 2021, alone—the biggest population decline since the fall of the Soviet Union (independent demographers have also accused the government of undercounting COVID deaths).
Now, Russia’s February invasion of Ukraine could strike another blow to Putin’s dream of resuming the nation’s population growth by 2030.
Russia’s fertility rate plunged 6.5% from January to September this year, with new sign-ups for the Kremlin’s maternity program down by 12.6%. Meanwhile the country’s death rate has reached the highest level since the end of World War II.
“Many people don’t want to have children because of the anxiety and uncertainty due to war and mobilization,” Kseniya Kirillova, an analyst for think tank Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA), told Fortune. The economic turbulence unleashed by Putin’s war has made it more difficult for households to plan for the future, Igor Gretskiy, a research fellow at the Estonian Foreign Policy Institute, told Fortune.
Western sanctions have isolated Russia from the global economy, which has hit young Russians particularly hard. For Marina, a 29-year-old content creator, Russia’s war in Ukraine has snatched away job opportunities and burdened her with higher living costs. Before February, she had partnerships with international brands on her social media channels and sporadic work as a part-time model. “Now, I’m struggling with [a] lack of opportunities to travel and work abroad. Working online is a problem because of sanctions. Flights, visas, bank cards, now cost three to five times more for us. There are many nights when I can’t sleep, because I don’t know what the future will bring,” she told Fortune. “Since I was 21, people [in Russia] have been telling me that I need to become a mother. I wasn’t so sure, because of my lifestyle. But the war really convinced me that I shouldn’t have kids because how can I afford it?” She will leave Russia permanently this month.
During the early months of the war, Russia experienced a wave of optimism and support for the government. But as the war dragged on, the “public sees the economic situation much more realistically than it did in the spring… and has begun to suspect that Putin’s military adventure is taking place at their expense,” Boris Grozovski, a Russian public educator, wrote for research institute the Wilson Center last week. A recent internal government poll found that only 25% of Russians supported continuing the war—down from 57% in July, according to independent publication Meduza.
Uncertain future
Niki, a 28-year-old video blogger built his online following by documenting daily life in Russia. He told Fortune that financial anxiety plays the biggest role in young people’s decisions to shun, or delay, having kids—more than older generations. Russian millennials and Gen Z are “more mindful about building their families. They want a good job and steady income [first] before thinking about having kids,” he said.
Gretskiy, who has researched Russian Gen Z and millennial attitudes to the state and the war, said that Gen Z “relies on the state to a much lesser extent [than their predecessors]. They have somewhat different life priorities: self-realization and freedom of choice.”
After February, young Russians were cut off from carving out successful and lucrative careers at international companies because new western sanctions effectively isolated Russia from the world, Niki said. For Russia’s Gen Z, working at a foreign firm is the “most coveted,” Gretskiy said.
“As a rule, Russians tend to postpone hav[ing] children if they aren’t confident in their ability to provide,” Gretskiy said. For many Russians today, “planning horizons are so short, child-rearing plans are still under question”—another impediment to resuming Russia’s population growth, Margarita Zavadskaya, a social science researcher at the University of Helsinki, told Fortune.
Young peoples’ financial anxieties have been compounded by political uncertainties, like the government’s growing push for patriotic education to instil in kids unquestioning love and support for the state. In September, Russia’s Ministry of Education ordered schools nationwide to teach a weekly lesson called “Important Conversations” to teach “traditional values” and “true” patriotism. Children will be tested on their understanding of “correct” proverbs like “[the] happiness of [Russia] is more precious than life.”
The Kremlin’s political education efforts have been the catalyst for some young people, particularly those living in big cities, to remain child-free. Katya, a 35-year-old sociology researcher, is on the fence about having kids. But she tells Fortune that if she does decide to become a mother, she doesn’t want to raise her children in Russia.
Roger A. Shrubber
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“Russian public schools are the targets of very strong government propaganda, which makes me terrified. They teach kids terrible things like how to use weapons and justify the current politics [using] nonsensical arguments,” she said. Tanya, a 25-year-old Moscow-based public relations professional, told Fortune that around 70% of her friends have left the country since February. “Young couples, some of whom have small children or who want kids, are most worried about Russia’s crazy education system,” she said.
Putin’s war in Ukraine is making another “major contribution” to Russia’s population decline, Guriev said. Russia has now recorded 100,000 battlefield deaths, 300,000 men mobilized, and the mass exodus of at least 700,000 mostly young and educated Russians. “In such a situation, a reasonable question arises: with whom should a woman start a family and give birth to children?,” Kirillova said.
Russia’s demographic problem hasn’t yet deteriorated into a full-fledged crisis since the state and society are still functioning, Peter Rutland, a professor of government who studies contemporary Russian politics and economy at Wesleyan University, told Fortune. Experts point out that Russia’s fertility rates and population decline aren’t as bad as during the early post-Soviet years; Russia’s fertility growth rates from 1991 to 1996 averaged -5.5%, compared to 0.8% from 2015 to 2020. Still, “most long-term forecasts predict a decrease in Russia’s population. [An] optimistic scenario would entail large-scale institutional reforms” that appear highly unlikely,” Russian economist Evgeny Gontmakher wrote in January.
And young Russians’ growing uncertainties about the future could worsen the country’s already-dire population forecasts.
As Dasha said: “To live in Russia today is uncomfortable psychologically and economically. How can we even think about kids during this time?”
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Putin’s war in Ukraine is making another “major contribution” to Russia’s population decline, Guriev said. Russia has now recorded 100,000 battlefield deaths, 300,000 men mobilized, and the mass exodus of at least 700,000 mostly young and educated Russians. “In such a situation, a reasonable question arises: with whom should a woman start a family and give birth to children?,” Kirillova said.
Russia’s demographic problem hasn’t yet deteriorated into a full-fledged crisis since the state and society are still functioning, Peter Rutland, a professor of government who studies contemporary Russian politics and economy at Wesleyan University, told Fortune. Experts point out that Russia’s fertility rates and population decline aren’t as bad as during the early post-Soviet years; Russia’s fertility growth rates from 1991 to 1996 averaged -5.5%, compared to 0.8% from 2015 to 2020. Still, “most long-term forecasts predict a decrease in Russia’s population. [An] optimistic scenario would entail large-scale institutional reforms” that appear highly unlikely,” Russian economist Evgeny Gontmakher wrote in January.
And young Russians’ growing uncertainties about the future could worsen the country’s already-dire population forecasts.
As Dasha said: “To live in Russia today is uncomfortable psychologically and economically. How can we even think about kids during this time?”
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
thanks!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
and the venues usually serve watered-down cocktails for $
printer
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Wonder how 100,000 dead and wounded ends up as 100,000 dead. In that case they must have 500,000 wounded.
BudmanTX
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do it, i triple dog dare ya.......
thanks for the donation Iran.....
thanks for the donation Iran.....
BudmanTX
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Russia’s new offensive will test the morale of Putin’s mobilized masses
Vladimir Putin's desperation to regain the military initiative in Ukraine is leading to suicidal tactics that are undermining morale among hundreds of thousands of recently mobilized Russian troops, writes Peter Dickinson.
www.atlanticcouncil.org
Russian morale is basically.....what the best way to put it....ah
BudmanTX
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pretty much how it works, and i see it all the time when i browse the ol twitter verse....elon u piss ant......
Fogdog
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I'll blame the Russian people when a young man is arrested for protesting, given a fine and released. When protesting means years in jail under medieval conditions, your sister gets raped and your parents and children menaced if not beaten and loss of jobs for all, I'm willing to give the suppressed population a pass. Putin has already fed the eager ones into the meatgrinder and used them up. Now it's the reluctant. And he isn't even trying to keep them alive. I'm not all weepy and wanting to give hugs to the people who allowed Putin into power. They knew who he was. But I'm not blaming them for Putin's bad choices.
It sucks for everybody right now. Ukraine is on the right side of this war but I'm leery of them too. When this is all over, we are going to see a glut of arms on the black market marked "made in the USA", some of which China will pay for and send to the Taliban (given as a possible example). Or maybe to Columbian rebels, IDK, all I know is war makes everybody into monsters by the end.
A failed Russia means more instability. I'm not for it but also not against it. I just hope that after Putin goes and the state of Russia breaks up, the US provides aid like we did in Europe after WW2. Aid for both sides if they want it and it keeps the peace.
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Fogdog
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The US put Trump in power and it was a near thing that we didn't slide into the mire Russians are in. If my protesting meant my invalid mother got tossed into the street while I spent time in jail, unable to help while my wife is menaced with rape and forced to go into hiding, I might be less prone to put myself out there to protest.
Just saying, you aren't in their shoes, so you can't walk their mile. This is Putin's war, not the the Russian people's.
BudmanTX
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totally agree, and he's failing so bad right now.....even the BS brigade is starting to wonder......
Roger A. Shrubber
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from WSJ
MOSCOW—Close to 200,000 Russian troops have been killed or wounded in the war in Ukraine, according to estimates from U.S. and European officials, a toll that is likely to continue to rise as the Kremlin readies a fresh offensive in the coming weeks.
The U.S. military, which keeps rough estimates on Russian casualties in Ukraine, puts the figure for wounded and dead at roughly 180,000, though officials stressed such figures aren’t precise, a U.S. defense official said.
from November 9th, 2022
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/more-than-100000-russian-military-casualties-ukraine-top-us-general-2022-11-10/
from 6 days ago
https://www.newsweek.com/russian-army-burning-their-own-dead-hide-massive-losses-ukraine-says-1780266
from 5 days ago (not familiar with this site)
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/counting-the-dead-in-ukraine/
Sources other than the Ukrainians say the the russians have lost close to 200k. The typical ratio of wounded to dead is 3/1. if that is holding true, the russians have had at least 50K deaths
DIY-HP-LED
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It would be like saying the coup was Trump's fault alone, Vlad had help and was elected, not by a majority, but by enough to gain and retain power while he strangled what little democracy there was. Unfortunately he owns the Russian people and in a way they own him and must carry him as a burden. The war is his fault for sure, as the coup in America was Trump's, but there were also 74 million other guilty parties in America and many millions in Russia. They don't object to the war unless they have to go and there is more than fear at play for many.
Fogdog
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It's Putin's war. Don't hate on the people who are just trying to survive. That's all I was trying to say. I'm sorry I made it complicated by suggesting that the same thing was happening here until the US voter wised up and stopped it. I don't think the US voter is any better of a person for it but probably was better informed. Also we had protests but not the same kind of police actions. Though it was touch and go.
But it's Putin's war.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The Russians at the front would really really rather be somewhere else.