BudmanTX
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i think so too.....you can also arm the drones as well......trying to get more of the story right now....dunno if it was shot down/or just knocked down by a collision over international waters
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More detail. They peed on it!
US drone crashes after encounter with Russian jet - BBC News
The US says the two aircraft collided over the Black Sea, but Russia says there was no contact.
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Breaking!
Russian fighter jet collides with US Air Force drone over Black Sea (msn.com)
Ut oh! We touched them.
Russian fighter jet collides with US Air Force drone over Black Sea (msn.com)
Ut oh! We touched them.
Putin is going to be forced out..it's coming. This week, next week..he's lost control.
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Russian wives and mothers call on Putin to stop sending mobilized men 'to the slaughter' | CNN
A group of Russian wives and mothers have called on President Vladimir Putin to stop sending their husbands and sons "to the slaughter" by forcing them to join assault groups without adequate training or supplies.
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I'm sure they would like to use starlink to control drones, but Elon does a lot of business with China and gets a deal on batteries, there would be a price for that. They would need Elon's permission, not Uncle Sam's, Uncle Sam needs Elon's permission too, apparently. Starlink has become a vital national security asset for America and its allies, time for Elon to sell control of Starlink to a responsible national security partner. Fucking with the national security of South Korea, Tiawan, Ukraine or America should be enough, or one of those places will put a contract out on Elon, end of problem.
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Learning from Ukraine, Taiwan shows off its drones as key to 'asymmetric warfare'
Taiwan showcased new models of its domestically produced military drones on Tuesday, saying they are key to its "asymmetric warfare" capacity to make its forces more agile if they have to face a far larger Chinese military. China, which has never renounced the use of force to bring Taiwan under...
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read://https_www.newsweek.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fif-russia-loses-ukraine-war-how-putin-will-react-1787410
If Russia Loses Ukraine War, This Is How Putin Will React
Russian President Vladimir Putin may be forced out of power should Russia be defeated in his war against Ukraine, Newsweek has been told.
When the Russian leader launched a full-scale invasion of neighboring Ukraine last February, the Kremlin hoped to seize the capital Kyiv in a matter of days. More than a year on, there appears to be no end in sight. As Russia continues with its push to seize the eastern Donbas region in its entirety, Ukraine is expected to launch a fresh counteroffensive against Russian forces in the coming months.
On Monday, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov suggested that Russia's chances of victory in Ukraine are narrowing, saying that the Russian leader's war goals can now only be achieved by military means, not through peace talks.
Should Putin be unable to win the war on his preferred terms, he may eventually be forced to step down as Russian leader, Boris Bondarev, a former Russian diplomat who resigned publicly over the invasion of Ukraine last year, told Newsweek.
"Putin can be replaced. He's not a superhero. He doesn't have any superpowers. He's just an ordinary dictator," said Bondarev, 42, who quit his job as an arms control expert at Russia's diplomatic mission to Geneva in May 2022, and is the only Russian diplomat to have quit publicly over the war.
"And we have if we look at history, we see that such dictators have been replaced from time to time. So usually, if they lose the war, and they could not satisfy the needs of the supporters, they usually went away," he said.
Bondarev believes that if Russians understand that the war is lost, and Putin has nothing to offer them in exchange, there will be "disappointment and disagreement."
"They might think they don't need Putin anymore," he said. "I think that once they say farewell to the delusions, and find themselves in a new reality where Putin cannot deliver anything—only fear and some kind of threat of repression against his own people—that will change the situation."
Vlad Mykhnenko, an expert in the post-communist transformation of Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union at the University of Oxford laid out three potential scenarios for a Russian defeat.
"A lot, if not all, hinges on the manner of the defeat," Mykhnenko told Newsweek.
The first scenario, a chaotic retreat caused by a "striking Ukrainian offensive on one or multiple fronts" would include a "huge panic amongst 600,000 Russian post-2014 annexation settlers in Crimea, and Russian collaborators in the Donbas, trying to escape."
This would result in a "rapid frontline collapse."
"The situation in Moscow will proceed rapidly, with the siloviki pushing Putin out of power. He would not have a chance to deploy a nuclear weapon, as many fear, for that order will surely be sabotaged on multiple levels," said Mykhnenko.
Another scenario could see World War I-style withdrawal from fighting, said Mykhnenko, "similar to the collapse of the Russian Army in 1916-1917: the current slow, attrition warfare continues for a long time, with the mobilized Russian soldiers, poorly equipped and supported, spending months and months in muddy cold trenches under increasingly accurate Ukrainian barrages deserting en masse, leading to the collapse of the front."
Unlike scenario one, the situation would develop slower and less dramatically, providing Putin with enough time to plead for a ceasefire or short-term settlement on almost any terms, said Mykhnenko: "Once again, no nukes will be deployed, as with Russian soldiers deserting, there would not be an army left to utilize any opening a nuclear strike could make."
This scenario could see Putin agreeing to step down gradually "to make space for a new leader, provided the Siloviki (an elite group of Russian businessmen and leaders) give him an immunity from prosecution."
Mykhnenko said a third scenario could see the war in Ukraine rage on for another two years, with growing discontent in Russia, a slow Russian retreat in some places, and troops holding the frontline in others.
"In this case, the Siloviki, joined by economic and financial elites, would try to negotiate a deal with Putin to declare a 'victory,' as in 'standing up to the West,' 'not losing,' 'defending Motherland,' etc., but pushing the baton to a designated successor," he said.
He added: "Unlike in the first two scenarios, this is the one where Putin has [the] most bargaining power and a chance to save his life."
Bondarev suggested that Putin may attempt to present whatever small gains he has made in Ukraine as a victory.
"Maybe if he has a couple of new villages then he can say that is a victory, he defeated Ukrainians, he protected the nation, and also blame Ukrainians and the West for not being willing to negotiate peace on these terms," the former diplomat said. "I think if Putin is allowed to do this, he can say that he won, and he will try to sell it to his audience as a victory."
Bondarev said he isn't sure that Putin will be able to convince the population, however, as "most people don't want war, they want peace."
"Putin will find it quite difficult to convince his own elite that this victory was worth all the losses, and everything that they have lost...I don't feel that they would be very much happy about this, that okay, we can get a few Ukrainian villages, and that should compensate for all the losses," he said.
Grigory Yavlinsky, the founder of Russia's Yabloko party, a social-liberal party that has deputies in five regional parliaments, told Newsweek from Moscow that propaganda may affect how a loss for Russia is presented.
"Russia is extremely authoritarian, so Russian people are under the enormous influence of propaganda and fear. So it all depends [on] what kind of propaganda would be in Russia, and how all the things will be explained? Very often, the situation is very far from the reality," he said.
If Putin attempts to present the conflict, if it hasn't gone his way, as a victory, then any kind of this disappointment or resistance, "will also be very difficult to spread," Bondarev said.
"Because everyone who is not very good in [finding] information will say, okay, Putin says we won, we are still a great country," he added. "This situation shouldn't be allowed to happen. Putin should have nothing that he can sell as his victory. He should be humiliated."
Newsweek reached out to Russia's foreign ministry via email for comment.
If Russia Loses Ukraine War, This Is How Putin Will React
Russian President Vladimir Putin may be forced out of power should Russia be defeated in his war against Ukraine, Newsweek has been told.
When the Russian leader launched a full-scale invasion of neighboring Ukraine last February, the Kremlin hoped to seize the capital Kyiv in a matter of days. More than a year on, there appears to be no end in sight. As Russia continues with its push to seize the eastern Donbas region in its entirety, Ukraine is expected to launch a fresh counteroffensive against Russian forces in the coming months.
On Monday, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov suggested that Russia's chances of victory in Ukraine are narrowing, saying that the Russian leader's war goals can now only be achieved by military means, not through peace talks.
Should Putin be unable to win the war on his preferred terms, he may eventually be forced to step down as Russian leader, Boris Bondarev, a former Russian diplomat who resigned publicly over the invasion of Ukraine last year, told Newsweek.
"Putin can be replaced. He's not a superhero. He doesn't have any superpowers. He's just an ordinary dictator," said Bondarev, 42, who quit his job as an arms control expert at Russia's diplomatic mission to Geneva in May 2022, and is the only Russian diplomat to have quit publicly over the war.
"And we have if we look at history, we see that such dictators have been replaced from time to time. So usually, if they lose the war, and they could not satisfy the needs of the supporters, they usually went away," he said.
Bondarev believes that if Russians understand that the war is lost, and Putin has nothing to offer them in exchange, there will be "disappointment and disagreement."
"They might think they don't need Putin anymore," he said. "I think that once they say farewell to the delusions, and find themselves in a new reality where Putin cannot deliver anything—only fear and some kind of threat of repression against his own people—that will change the situation."
Vlad Mykhnenko, an expert in the post-communist transformation of Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union at the University of Oxford laid out three potential scenarios for a Russian defeat.
"A lot, if not all, hinges on the manner of the defeat," Mykhnenko told Newsweek.
The first scenario, a chaotic retreat caused by a "striking Ukrainian offensive on one or multiple fronts" would include a "huge panic amongst 600,000 Russian post-2014 annexation settlers in Crimea, and Russian collaborators in the Donbas, trying to escape."
This would result in a "rapid frontline collapse."
"The situation in Moscow will proceed rapidly, with the siloviki pushing Putin out of power. He would not have a chance to deploy a nuclear weapon, as many fear, for that order will surely be sabotaged on multiple levels," said Mykhnenko.
Another scenario could see World War I-style withdrawal from fighting, said Mykhnenko, "similar to the collapse of the Russian Army in 1916-1917: the current slow, attrition warfare continues for a long time, with the mobilized Russian soldiers, poorly equipped and supported, spending months and months in muddy cold trenches under increasingly accurate Ukrainian barrages deserting en masse, leading to the collapse of the front."
Unlike scenario one, the situation would develop slower and less dramatically, providing Putin with enough time to plead for a ceasefire or short-term settlement on almost any terms, said Mykhnenko: "Once again, no nukes will be deployed, as with Russian soldiers deserting, there would not be an army left to utilize any opening a nuclear strike could make."
This scenario could see Putin agreeing to step down gradually "to make space for a new leader, provided the Siloviki (an elite group of Russian businessmen and leaders) give him an immunity from prosecution."
Mykhnenko said a third scenario could see the war in Ukraine rage on for another two years, with growing discontent in Russia, a slow Russian retreat in some places, and troops holding the frontline in others.
"In this case, the Siloviki, joined by economic and financial elites, would try to negotiate a deal with Putin to declare a 'victory,' as in 'standing up to the West,' 'not losing,' 'defending Motherland,' etc., but pushing the baton to a designated successor," he said.
He added: "Unlike in the first two scenarios, this is the one where Putin has [the] most bargaining power and a chance to save his life."
Bondarev suggested that Putin may attempt to present whatever small gains he has made in Ukraine as a victory.
"Maybe if he has a couple of new villages then he can say that is a victory, he defeated Ukrainians, he protected the nation, and also blame Ukrainians and the West for not being willing to negotiate peace on these terms," the former diplomat said. "I think if Putin is allowed to do this, he can say that he won, and he will try to sell it to his audience as a victory."
Bondarev said he isn't sure that Putin will be able to convince the population, however, as "most people don't want war, they want peace."
"Putin will find it quite difficult to convince his own elite that this victory was worth all the losses, and everything that they have lost...I don't feel that they would be very much happy about this, that okay, we can get a few Ukrainian villages, and that should compensate for all the losses," he said.
Grigory Yavlinsky, the founder of Russia's Yabloko party, a social-liberal party that has deputies in five regional parliaments, told Newsweek from Moscow that propaganda may affect how a loss for Russia is presented.
"Russia is extremely authoritarian, so Russian people are under the enormous influence of propaganda and fear. So it all depends [on] what kind of propaganda would be in Russia, and how all the things will be explained? Very often, the situation is very far from the reality," he said.
If Putin attempts to present the conflict, if it hasn't gone his way, as a victory, then any kind of this disappointment or resistance, "will also be very difficult to spread," Bondarev said.
"Because everyone who is not very good in [finding] information will say, okay, Putin says we won, we are still a great country," he added. "This situation shouldn't be allowed to happen. Putin should have nothing that he can sell as his victory. He should be humiliated."
Newsweek reached out to Russia's foreign ministry via email for comment.
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U.S. European Command said in a statement that the U.S. MQ-9 Reaper drone was flying over international waters in the Black Sea flanked by two Russian jets when one of the jets flew in front of the drone and dumped fuel. One of the jets then damaged the propeller of the unmanned drone, forcing it to land in the Black Sea.
“Our MQ-9 aircraft was conducting routine operations in international airspace when it was intercepted and hit by a Russian aircraft, resulting in a crash and complete loss of the MQ-9,” Gen. James B. Hecker, commander of U.S. Air Forces Europe and Air Forces Africa, said in a statement. “In fact, this unsafe and unprofessional act by the Russians nearly caused both aircraft to crash.”
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“Our MQ-9 aircraft was conducting routine operations in international airspace when it was intercepted and hit by a Russian aircraft, resulting in a crash and complete loss of the MQ-9,” Gen. James B. Hecker, commander of U.S. Air Forces Europe and Air Forces Africa, said in a statement. “In fact, this unsafe and unprofessional act by the Russians nearly caused both aircraft to crash.”
Russian jet intercepts US drone over Black Sea, forcing it down
A Russian fighter jet intercepted a U.S. Air Force drone over the Black Sea on Tuesday, American officials confirmed, bringing down the U.S. aircraft in what Pentagon officials warned could lead to…
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Graham warns US against turning back on Ukraine: If Putin wins ‘more conflict is coming’
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday warned the U.S. against turning its back on Ukraine, after Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) suggested that Russia’s war in Ukraine should not be one of America’s “vital national interests.”
“If [Russian President Vladimir] Putin loses in Ukraine, then the world resets in all the right ways,” Graham tweeted. “If he wins in Ukraine and the west capitulates just like in the past, more conflict is coming.
“When it comes to Putin, you either pay now or pay later,” Graham said, adding, “If you do not understand that success by Putin in Russia invites aggression by China against Taiwan, then you have seriously miscalculated one of the most obvious nexuses in the world.”
DeSantis, who is widely considered one of the top potential contenders for the Republican nomination in 2024, described the war in Ukraine as a “territorial dispute” in a questionnaire sent out to possible presidential candidates by Fox News’ Tucker Carlson.
“While the U.S. has many vital national interests — securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness within our military, achieving energy security and independence, and checking the economic, cultural, and military power of the Chinese Communist Party — becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them,” DeSantis said.
“The Biden administration’s virtual ‘blank check’ funding of this conflict for ‘as long as it takes,’ without any defined objectives or accountability, distracts from our country’s most pressing challenges,” he added.
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) pushed back on DeSantis’ remarks, emphasizing that the war is not simply a “territorial dispute.”
“Well, it’s not a territorial dispute in the sense that any more than it would be a territorial dispute if the United States decided that it wanted to invade Canada or take over the Bahamas,” Rubio said during an appearance on the “Hugh Hewitt Show” on Tuesday. “Just because someone claims something doesn’t mean it belongs to them.”
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Graham — unlike some of his GOP colleagues who have echoed the concerns about writing a “blank check” to Ukraine — has pushed the Biden administration to send even more military aid to Kyiv. Graham last month called Biden’s decision to rule out F-16 fighter jets for Ukraine “beyond disappointing.”
“It has been like pulling teeth with this Administration to get every weapons system requested by Ukraine to the battlefield,” Graham lamented at the time.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday warned the U.S. against turning its back on Ukraine, after Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) suggested that Russia’s war in Ukraine should not be one of America’s “vital national interests.”
“If [Russian President Vladimir] Putin loses in Ukraine, then the world resets in all the right ways,” Graham tweeted. “If he wins in Ukraine and the west capitulates just like in the past, more conflict is coming.
“When it comes to Putin, you either pay now or pay later,” Graham said, adding, “If you do not understand that success by Putin in Russia invites aggression by China against Taiwan, then you have seriously miscalculated one of the most obvious nexuses in the world.”
DeSantis, who is widely considered one of the top potential contenders for the Republican nomination in 2024, described the war in Ukraine as a “territorial dispute” in a questionnaire sent out to possible presidential candidates by Fox News’ Tucker Carlson.
“While the U.S. has many vital national interests — securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness within our military, achieving energy security and independence, and checking the economic, cultural, and military power of the Chinese Communist Party — becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them,” DeSantis said.
“The Biden administration’s virtual ‘blank check’ funding of this conflict for ‘as long as it takes,’ without any defined objectives or accountability, distracts from our country’s most pressing challenges,” he added.
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) pushed back on DeSantis’ remarks, emphasizing that the war is not simply a “territorial dispute.”
“Well, it’s not a territorial dispute in the sense that any more than it would be a territorial dispute if the United States decided that it wanted to invade Canada or take over the Bahamas,” Rubio said during an appearance on the “Hugh Hewitt Show” on Tuesday. “Just because someone claims something doesn’t mean it belongs to them.”
Graham warns US against turning back on Ukraine: If Putin wins ‘more conflict is coming’
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday warned the U.S. against turning its back on Ukraine, after Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) suggested that Russia’s war in Ukraine should not be one of America’…
thehill.com
Graham — unlike some of his GOP colleagues who have echoed the concerns about writing a “blank check” to Ukraine — has pushed the Biden administration to send even more military aid to Kyiv. Graham last month called Biden’s decision to rule out F-16 fighter jets for Ukraine “beyond disappointing.”
“It has been like pulling teeth with this Administration to get every weapons system requested by Ukraine to the battlefield,” Graham lamented at the time.
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The Ministry of Defense commented on the incident with the American UAV over the Black Sea
An American MQ-9 drone fell into the Black Sea due to its own sharp maneuvering, Russian fighters did not come into contact with it, the Ministry of Defense said .
They specified that the incident occurred this morning in the Crimean region. According to the agency, the drone with transponders turned off flew in the direction of Russia, violating the borders of the area of the temporary regime for the use of airspace established for the purpose of conducting a special military operation.
After the discovery of the drone, fighters from the duty air defense forces took to the air.
"As a result of sharp maneuvering around 9:30 Moscow time, the MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle went into uncontrolled flight with a loss of altitude and collided with the water surface," the Defense Ministry said.
The ministry emphasized that the Russian fighters did not use airborne weapons and did not come into contact with the drone. After departure, they returned safely to their home airfield.
Earlier today, the US European Command announced that a Russian Su-27 fighter jet allegedly collided with an American MQ-9 drone in the sky over the Black Sea. They specified that after that the drone fell into international waters. It was alleged that shortly before the incident, the Su-27 allegedly made "unsafe" maneuvers.
US President Joe Biden was briefed on the incident. The State Department also summoned Russian Ambassador Anatoly Antonov . According to State Department spokesman Ned Price , United States officials will express "sharp dissatisfaction" to the diplomat because of the "unprofessional interception." In addition, he said that Ambassador to Moscow Lynn Tracy "earlier today reported to the Russian Foreign Ministry a serious statement" in connection with the incident.
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An American MQ-9 drone fell into the Black Sea due to its own sharp maneuvering, Russian fighters did not come into contact with it, the Ministry of Defense said .
They specified that the incident occurred this morning in the Crimean region. According to the agency, the drone with transponders turned off flew in the direction of Russia, violating the borders of the area of the temporary regime for the use of airspace established for the purpose of conducting a special military operation.
After the discovery of the drone, fighters from the duty air defense forces took to the air.
"As a result of sharp maneuvering around 9:30 Moscow time, the MQ-9 unmanned aerial vehicle went into uncontrolled flight with a loss of altitude and collided with the water surface," the Defense Ministry said.
The ministry emphasized that the Russian fighters did not use airborne weapons and did not come into contact with the drone. After departure, they returned safely to their home airfield.
Earlier today, the US European Command announced that a Russian Su-27 fighter jet allegedly collided with an American MQ-9 drone in the sky over the Black Sea. They specified that after that the drone fell into international waters. It was alleged that shortly before the incident, the Su-27 allegedly made "unsafe" maneuvers.
US President Joe Biden was briefed on the incident. The State Department also summoned Russian Ambassador Anatoly Antonov . According to State Department spokesman Ned Price , United States officials will express "sharp dissatisfaction" to the diplomat because of the "unprofessional interception." In addition, he said that Ambassador to Moscow Lynn Tracy "earlier today reported to the Russian Foreign Ministry a serious statement" in connection with the incident.
Минобороны прокомментировало инцидент с американским БПЛА над Черным морем
Американский беспилотник MQ-9 упал в Черное море из-за собственного резкого маневрирования, российские истребители с ним в контакт не вступали, сообщило... РИА Новости, 15.03.2023
DIY-HP-LED
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I figured Ukraine would divide the republican party from the top to the base, just another wedge issue to split them like J6.Graham warns US against turning back on Ukraine: If Putin wins ‘more conflict is coming’
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday warned the U.S. against turning its back on Ukraine, after Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) suggested that Russia’s war in Ukraine should not be one of America’s “vital national interests.”
“If [Russian President Vladimir] Putin loses in Ukraine, then the world resets in all the right ways,” Graham tweeted. “If he wins in Ukraine and the west capitulates just like in the past, more conflict is coming.
“When it comes to Putin, you either pay now or pay later,” Graham said, adding, “If you do not understand that success by Putin in Russia invites aggression by China against Taiwan, then you have seriously miscalculated one of the most obvious nexuses in the world.”
DeSantis, who is widely considered one of the top potential contenders for the Republican nomination in 2024, described the war in Ukraine as a “territorial dispute” in a questionnaire sent out to possible presidential candidates by Fox News’ Tucker Carlson.
“While the U.S. has many vital national interests — securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness within our military, achieving energy security and independence, and checking the economic, cultural, and military power of the Chinese Communist Party — becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them,” DeSantis said.
“The Biden administration’s virtual ‘blank check’ funding of this conflict for ‘as long as it takes,’ without any defined objectives or accountability, distracts from our country’s most pressing challenges,” he added.
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) pushed back on DeSantis’ remarks, emphasizing that the war is not simply a “territorial dispute.”
“Well, it’s not a territorial dispute in the sense that any more than it would be a territorial dispute if the United States decided that it wanted to invade Canada or take over the Bahamas,” Rubio said during an appearance on the “Hugh Hewitt Show” on Tuesday. “Just because someone claims something doesn’t mean it belongs to them.”
Graham warns US against turning back on Ukraine: If Putin wins ‘more conflict is coming’
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday warned the U.S. against turning its back on Ukraine, after Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) suggested that Russia’s war in Ukraine should not be one of America’…
Graham — unlike some of his GOP colleagues who have echoed the concerns about writing a “blank check” to Ukraine — has pushed the Biden administration to send even more military aid to Kyiv. Graham last month called Biden’s decision to rule out F-16 fighter jets for Ukraine “beyond disappointing.”
“It has been like pulling teeth with this Administration to get every weapons system requested by Ukraine to the battlefield,” Graham lamented at the time.
DIY-HP-LED
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Treasonous Tucker is popular in Russa for a reason and gives Vlad much aid and comfort while brain washing morons. His audience of stupid "cousin fucking terrorists", as his producers describe them, I imagine they read the email and feedback the show gets, so they know their audience!
Rupert likes the money, but it's coming with trouble from a couple of different directions, the law and the establishment republicans like Mitch and Rove who want to put lipstick on the pig, if Trump will let them by going away. Tucker and the other primetime hosts could be jerked from the air, if fox management changes, to live out their well-paid lives in silence until their contracts expire. Fox is facing two massive lawsuits and the revelation of even more damning internal messages that will lead to other lawsuits by many of their victims. Then there will be looming FCC trouble eventually and possible boycotts by cable carriers, investigations by congress if the democrats win and the loss of broadcasting rights on air and cable. So, the heat is on at the board of fox and the Murdoch's could be ousted to save the corporation. Just being a wing of the GOP is illegal and should be enough by itself to have them removed from the air and cable, Fox gave the GOP billions in free advertising for decades and were in a conspiracy with them, it culminated on J6.
Rupert likes the money, but it's coming with trouble from a couple of different directions, the law and the establishment republicans like Mitch and Rove who want to put lipstick on the pig, if Trump will let them by going away. Tucker and the other primetime hosts could be jerked from the air, if fox management changes, to live out their well-paid lives in silence until their contracts expire. Fox is facing two massive lawsuits and the revelation of even more damning internal messages that will lead to other lawsuits by many of their victims. Then there will be looming FCC trouble eventually and possible boycotts by cable carriers, investigations by congress if the democrats win and the loss of broadcasting rights on air and cable. So, the heat is on at the board of fox and the Murdoch's could be ousted to save the corporation. Just being a wing of the GOP is illegal and should be enough by itself to have them removed from the air and cable, Fox gave the GOP billions in free advertising for decades and were in a conspiracy with them, it culminated on J6.
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My guess is all of them were killed by artillery fire and the Ukrainians collected the phone after from the bodies, they had them zeroed in with a drone overhead and a M777 can drop a regular shell within a meter or two from many miles away.
BudmanTX
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that scared the bejesus out of them..........
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this is the same fuckwit that is throwing his support behind invading Mexico, using our tax dollars right? how does he stand up so straight without a fucking spine?Graham warns US against turning back on Ukraine: If Putin wins ‘more conflict is coming’
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday warned the U.S. against turning its back on Ukraine, after Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) suggested that Russia’s war in Ukraine should not be one of America’s “vital national interests.”
“If [Russian President Vladimir] Putin loses in Ukraine, then the world resets in all the right ways,” Graham tweeted. “If he wins in Ukraine and the west capitulates just like in the past, more conflict is coming.
“When it comes to Putin, you either pay now or pay later,” Graham said, adding, “If you do not understand that success by Putin in Russia invites aggression by China against Taiwan, then you have seriously miscalculated one of the most obvious nexuses in the world.”
DeSantis, who is widely considered one of the top potential contenders for the Republican nomination in 2024, described the war in Ukraine as a “territorial dispute” in a questionnaire sent out to possible presidential candidates by Fox News’ Tucker Carlson.
“While the U.S. has many vital national interests — securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness within our military, achieving energy security and independence, and checking the economic, cultural, and military power of the Chinese Communist Party — becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them,” DeSantis said.
“The Biden administration’s virtual ‘blank check’ funding of this conflict for ‘as long as it takes,’ without any defined objectives or accountability, distracts from our country’s most pressing challenges,” he added.
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) pushed back on DeSantis’ remarks, emphasizing that the war is not simply a “territorial dispute.”
“Well, it’s not a territorial dispute in the sense that any more than it would be a territorial dispute if the United States decided that it wanted to invade Canada or take over the Bahamas,” Rubio said during an appearance on the “Hugh Hewitt Show” on Tuesday. “Just because someone claims something doesn’t mean it belongs to them.”
Graham warns US against turning back on Ukraine: If Putin wins ‘more conflict is coming’
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday warned the U.S. against turning its back on Ukraine, after Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) suggested that Russia’s war in Ukraine should not be one of America’…
Graham — unlike some of his GOP colleagues who have echoed the concerns about writing a “blank check” to Ukraine — has pushed the Biden administration to send even more military aid to Kyiv. Graham last month called Biden’s decision to rule out F-16 fighter jets for Ukraine “beyond disappointing.”
“It has been like pulling teeth with this Administration to get every weapons system requested by Ukraine to the battlefield,” Graham lamented at the time.
BudmanTX
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hey Ivan "what's this button do"
Igor "it fires the missile"
Igor "like this" (click)
Ivan "we have no targets you idiot"
Igor "oops"
Igor "it fires the missile"
Igor "like this" (click)
Ivan "we have no targets you idiot"
Igor "oops"
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