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printer
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Maybe I am missing something, where were the lies? I thought it was a question of them supporting the Republican bills?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
In the implication that the Democrats are the obstructionists. That isn’t anyone’s duty.
printer
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It is called politics. The opposition is obligated to cast down legislation that they do not feel is in the best interest of the country.
printer
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I am sure you can find a handful of articles that prove your point, I could find a handful to prove mine also. As I said, they use a host of writers from different parts of the spectrum. Some I agree with, some not. I have not noticed some nefarious hand guiding the articles pushing propaganda.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
We’re talking about the journalism. About thehill sneaking in pro-fascist hogwash. That should have been plain from my post #29335.
As hanimmal has pointed out, thehill is sneaking propaganda into a matrix of largely unobjectionable journalism. It’s this camouflage that has me concerned, and your resistance to acknowledging it that has me a bit nonplussed.
printer
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No, I have said I take a look at the articles and if they do not smell right I pass them by. Some I stop reading a few lines in as the author is selling hogwash. But I have read articles from some lean far to the left, some in the middle, some to the right. Not sure how the management allows for the variety of viewpoints if they were pushing fascism.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
To the bolded: that’s the sneaky part. Imo. A meal that is only 1% feces is still unsanitary.
Here they are, openly pimping for a proven organ of the CCP. They do not mention that this is a de facto civilian surveillance/espionage tool and a platform for normalizing radical content.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Back to war. “Send these to us yesterday!” Defense delayed is defense denied.
www.newsweek.com
Zelensky throws down gauntlet to West over "immobile" Patriot systems
Referring to air defense, the Ukrainian leader said, "'Patriots' need to be in Ukrainian hands right now."
www.newsweek.com
printer
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Where does this make them fascists'?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
That is not what I claimed.
Sir Napsalot
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No country has issued a formal declaration of war since WWII
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
More snark from the Kremlin.
www.cnbc.com
Russia says deeper U.S. hybrid war using Ukraine will end in Vietnam-style humiliation
Russia said that U.S. lawmakers' approval of $60.84 billion more in support for Ukraine showed that Washington was wading deeper into a hybrid war with Russia.
printer
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Sorry, what were you claiming they were? I googled tiktok and thehill.com. The first two pages.
Against tiktok
5 reasons why we should ban TikTok as soon as possible
This isn’t a level playing field.
thehill.com
TikTok ban opponents pin hopes on Senate
Opponents of legislation that could ban TikTok in the United States are pinning their hopes on the Senate as the House readies to send a major foreign aid package to the upper chamber. The legislat…
thehill.com
Parents’ rights group to launch anti-TikTok ad ahead of House vote
A parents’ rights group led by a former Trump administration official is launching a new ad Friday warning of the dangers of TikTok ahead of a potential House vote regarding the app. The Amer…
thehill.com
McConnell: TikTok threatens security ‘on US soil’
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) on Monday endorsed an effort to require the Chinese company ByteDance to sell TikTok or face a ban of the popular app within the United States, warnin…
thehill.com
White House hails ‘important and welcome’ bill that could ban TikTok
The White House called a new bipartisan bill that could lead to a ban on TikTok a “welcome step” and said it will work with Congress to strengthen it, a National Security Council spokesperson told …
thehill.com
50/50
Against the ban.
There were more going back in time but that should be enough.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I wasn’t claiming they were anything. I don’t think I was communicating in an opaque manner, but perhaps I was.Sorry, what were you claiming they were? I googled tiktok and thehill.com. The first two pages.
Against tiktok
5 reasons why we should ban TikTok as soon as possible
This isn’t a level playing field.TikTok ban opponents pin hopes on Senate
Opponents of legislation that could ban TikTok in the United States are pinning their hopes on the Senate as the House readies to send a major foreign aid package to the upper chamber. The legislat…Parents’ rights group to launch anti-TikTok ad ahead of House vote
A parents’ rights group led by a former Trump administration official is launching a new ad Friday warning of the dangers of TikTok ahead of a potential House vote regarding the app. The Amer…McConnell: TikTok threatens security ‘on US soil’
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) on Monday endorsed an effort to require the Chinese company ByteDance to sell TikTok or face a ban of the popular app within the United States, warnin…White House hails ‘important and welcome’ bill that could ban TikTok
The White House called a new bipartisan bill that could lead to a ban on TikTok a “welcome step” and said it will work with Congress to strengthen it, a National Security Council spokesperson told …
50/50
Against the ban.
There were more going back in time but that should be enough.
For a better representation of my take on the Hill’s bias, look at their Youtube offerings: the video I posted and the thumbnails hanimmal put up.
I also offer this bit of pearl-clutching about a “conservative” (a word that now means radical right in US) gadfly who repeats the Repug talking point that immigration is the #1 problem in US today, whereas imo it is the rise of an alternative-fact and -narrative “press” that feeds big lie politics.* It’s in the video section that thehill’s ostensible centerness takes hits; they keep nodding at hard-right propaganda.
*I’m not saying that thehill is part of the Murdoch/maga neoliberal bs ecosystem. But often, when given an opportunity not to pass on propaganda, they fail. 1% crap is still crappy.
hanimmal
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I decided to go fishing for the time I actually bothered to look closely at what they were pushing:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-great-reset.1039126/post-15974731
I know I could just look at it again and see how it has changed, but this is where they were in dec 2020 when they were pushing their trigger phrases like 'the Great Reset'.
Results of my bullshit Butina test back then:
And when I searched Papadoplous who kicked off the entire Russian probe when he was drunk in a bar spouting off about how Trump was getting dirt from the Russians on his political opponent:
You would think that a 'lefty' news company would for sure talk more about a Russian spy who was courting a whole lot of right wing politicians through the NRA and the idiot who verified Trump working Putin than they had.
I didn't notice it before, but the number of times those stories had been pushed is pretty telling too. Really gives a good idea of which stories are being pushed by trolls im guessing. I went back to go look but the 'shares' information is no longer on the search page. Which sucks because it would be a nice tool to see what is being spread in real time.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-great-reset.1039126/post-15974731
I know I could just look at it again and see how it has changed, but this is where they were in dec 2020 when they were pushing their trigger phrases like 'the Great Reset'.
Results of my bullshit Butina test back then:
And when I searched Papadoplous who kicked off the entire Russian probe when he was drunk in a bar spouting off about how Trump was getting dirt from the Russians on his political opponent:
You would think that a 'lefty' news company would for sure talk more about a Russian spy who was courting a whole lot of right wing politicians through the NRA and the idiot who verified Trump working Putin than they had.
I didn't notice it before, but the number of times those stories had been pushed is pretty telling too. Really gives a good idea of which stories are being pushed by trolls im guessing. I went back to go look but the 'shares' information is no longer on the search page. Which sucks because it would be a nice tool to see what is being spread in real time.
printer
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And as I have shown with the tiktok examples I have given, The Hill gives time to writers from right and left leaning. How many articles are for one side or the other, I am not going to count up in 2020. I have nothing to say about the Hill's video content, I do not watch the daily reports that are in its web pages and have not watched their Youtube content.I decided to go fishing for the time I actually bothered to look closely at what they were pushing:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-great-reset.1039126/post-15974731
I know I could just look at it again and see how it has changed, but this is where they were in dec 2020 when they were pushing their trigger phrases like 'the Great Reset'.
Results of my bullshit Butina test back then:
And when I searched Papadoplous who kicked off the entire Russian probe when he was drunk in a bar spouting off about how Trump was getting dirt from the Russians on his political opponent:
You would think that a 'lefty' news company would for sure talk more about a Russian spy who was courting a whole lot of right wing politicians through the NRA and the idiot who verified Trump working Putin than they had.
I didn't notice it before, but the number of times those stories had been pushed is pretty telling too. Really gives a good idea of which stories are being pushed by trolls im guessing. I went back to go look but the 'shares' information is no longer on the search page. Which sucks because it would be a nice tool to see what is being spread in real time.
BudmanTX
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yep just as i thought the Russian propagandist aren't happy at all.......
cepa.org
owe well, there is always an alternative.........LEAVE Ukraine
i'll find more out today.....
Putin’s Propagandists Rage Against the Republican ‘Betrayal’
Kremlin mouthpieces are having a hard time explaining to Russia why US Congress has just passed a huge military aid package for Ukraine.
owe well, there is always an alternative.........LEAVE Ukraine
i'll find more out today.....
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KnowAndGrow
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Who's buddies with Russia???