Don't YOU think the prices of weed are insane?

[poplars]

Despite the fact that I give herb away for free (I usually spend less then a lot of people to grow it too), I can understand perfectly well how the price system works, and even AGREE with it in some cases, even if its $300+ dollars.

just for simplicities sake:

Whole setup costs about $2500- lights, ballasts, nutes, water, rent, space, pots, soil/medium, wall lining or paint, table's or res, airstones, CO2 tanks, clones or seeds.... etc etc. then there is the ongoing expenses like more rent electricity water..... and beleive it or not time does COST money. 1 hr a day say in the room with the plants= 30 bucks a day for 90 days= 2700 in ninety days..... and say off this set up you get 3 lb.'s

Well sell the first two for say 3200 (200 a zipper) and you get most of your money back in your pocket... with nothing extra but the other lb. and then you can smoke it, eat it, sell it, give it away.

Let me put it this way. Unless you have grown lb's and lb's and lb's don't even bother trying to price pot, because you simply just don't understand...... and don't forget you have to pay your trimmers (herb or cash, either way it comes strait outa the pocket)..... or spend a huge amount of time doing it yourself (loosing out on other moneymaking opportunities or enjoyable events). Now lets assume your disabled with two kids, a single parent, huh, lets assume you just lost your job you can't get unemployment disability workmens comp or any state aid, and your LUCKY enough to have a harvest coming.

You tell me 400+ an oz for that extra lb. isn't fair for those kids to have clothes, diapers, wipes, food, a room of their own, lights, toothrush toothpaste, maybe some toys, or some gas to get them to the park. Formula is $16 for the small can, baby goes through a can in two or three days.... How about car insurance, car payments to get these kids to the doctor? How about paying for babysitter as you go look for another job even though your disabled, because this harvest is only going to last for this month and you have three months before the next harvest and only 15 days before next months rent/mortgage is due???

And then when you do move out...... remember when you flooded your table and it didn't drain and water spilled all over and you flooded your carpet/garage? Or how about the nice electrical job you had done just to run the op that the owner didn't know about and is charging you $1000 to fix? hardwood floors rotted out? spilled some nutes on accident and that stain doesn't come out??

Again: Unless you have grown lb's and lb's and lb's don't even bother trying to price pot, because you simply just don't understand

I have grown lbs and lbs. I believe most people who grow outside have . . . .

 

[theloadeddragon]

and so far as outdoor is concerned.... there is very little difference in the pricing scheme of things........ don't bother unless you've done it.... and for some reason outdoor herb is usually a bit cheaper... go figure.......

I want free pot...... give me free pot...... GROW me free pot!

Cost me upwards of $1000 to give away 1.5 lb.'s and keep .7 lb

No cash in my pocket......

 

[Hayduke]

(edit: I'm slow...post 279)^^^Very well put, Thanks. And if you don't like it...don't buy it, grow your own or go with out! Be Potactive!

Thanks TLD you included all the little things we never even consider...LIFE!

In order to change any of this, we first need to change how we think (if we want change), it is the whole system of scarcity and the need to obtain $$ that is the problem...remove the $$ from the system (which we have no control over the value! nor is it's value fixed!) and INSTANTLY the inequalities of goods and services disappears...REAL free trade!

 

[Hayduke]

Now that I'm growing it, I realize weed is priced perfectly. This is fuckin hard work, man. And the electricity costs, cost of nutrients... Fuck that. Pay the man his money!

This is true, luckily I love it.

Since the point of the thread is the price post legalization and after a commercialized market stabilizes...$150 oz...

Consider this: Think of the finest tasting August tomato you have ever had...just peeled and sliced with a little salt....

Now think about ANY tomato you buy in the store...in January...regardless of whether it is a "hot house" or "on the vine"...No comparison right?

This is what a stabilized commercial market did to one similar fruit!!!

These two scenarios are as different as Dank and Dirt.

I bet I could grow some kick ass tomatoes under my little 4 hunny...but man would they be pricey!!!!!

 

[Isthisnametaken]

you obviously don't understand this thread.

it's about what would happen if it were legal. what the price would actually cap out at, if the market were in conditions of perfect competition.

growing outside would be feasible for the majority if it were legalized. your argument isn't even an argument . . .

BS! You started this thread to cry about weed prices. Then you went on to say everyone should just grow outside because it's cheaper and that there is no excuse for expensive weed.

The discussion of what would happen if it was legalized started after the thread was already going.

Go back and read your garbage thread.

 

[Hayduke]

Thanks...that is what I thought also, but was too lazy to go back earlier....so on post 39 and 66 there is a mention of legalization in the future...but...this post...like #110 is the FIRST time he mentions regulated commercial grows.

so I really don't know why everyone seems to think there's a justification for this, if the system was regulated and there were massive outdoor grow plants in competition with each-other, you would have the best and cheapest bud ever.

but whatever, it seems that a lot of you can't see that outdoor growing can be ridiculously high quality for ridiculously cheap. there really is no excuse for high weed prices when you can grow high quality crops outside for hella cheap.

 

[Louis541]

This has got to be one of the most redundant threads on my subscribed list....

 

[tilemaster]

100's of valid points bolstering the current price index have been thrown ur way for review poplars...literally hundreds..You refuse to accept them, plain and simple.

 

[Hayduke]

I think maybe you guys missed the point of my thread. we're just talking the established price of weed for the majority of people.

lets set another condition in here . . . . if it were ever LEGALIZED and weed was suddenly under the rules of perfect competition. lets say most weed (85-90%) is grown outside.

with THOSE conditions . . . . what do YOU guys think a fair price of weed would be?

I say easily 100 dollars an oz.

Four days and 15 pages later...the thread changed (post #142) so that insults could fly about idiots missing the point of the thread

 

[tilemaster]

still waiting...just show me an old pic of ur jared finshed outdoor product, thats worth the 150..lets c it

im still waiting to see Poplars 35$ dollar outdoor OP that grows pounds... at least a pic or 2 come on..lets see some evidence why ur weed is so pleniful and bomb that its actually worth less...

 

[hhksnowball]

really good pot cost $300. no. calif.. only problem is, u would know a lot of people who grow and could get it for $200. LOL

* Humboldt County *

 

[poplars]

lol wow. apparently everything has turned against me now, fun. whatever, you guys can check back on my outdoor 09 thread in october/november if you want to see bomb quality chronic cheaply grown.

 

[tilemaster]

nah dog im not asking for ur next yields wieght..Im asking to see pics of ur previous 'big' crops, too sustantiate ur claims that u can grow copious amounts of pot for cheap. Thats it, and i think this threads negitivity would turn into positivie feedback if we could all see the bomb ass weed u claim to grow. uve claimed to effectively grown high yielding crops in the nieghborhood of pounds, apparently repeatedly when coupled with ur attitude that its so plentiful it should be 100 a zip. If thats your goal, cool. but im asking for past results. got any?

 

[Louis541]

My main point is you have pounds of very cheap bud. Why not sell it for $150 an ounce? It all starts on the home front. Sellin weed really isn't easy. It's the drug world. People want to try and lowball you. I bet if you started sellin it for $150 someone would want to know why don't you sell it for $90.

 

[poplars]

nah dog im not asking for ur next yields wieght..Im asking to see pics of ur previous 'big' crops, too sustantiate ur claims that u can grow copious amounts of pot for cheap. Thats it, and i think this threads negitivity would turn into positivie feedback if we could all see the bomb ass weed u claim to grow. uve claimed to effectively grown high yielding crops in the nieghborhood of pounds, apparently repeatedly when coupled with ur attitude that its so plentiful it should be 100 a zip. If thats your goal, cool. but im asking for past results. got any?

I have bud pics but I didn't buy my camera until later on this year. so I couldn't take pics of my plants/ my full harvest.

all I can give you until my harvest this year is bud pics showing the quality of my outdoor.

and if that's not good enough for you, you'll have to wait till this november.





btw I've posted these pics several times in this thread to prove I know what I'm talking about. but it doesn't seem to matter to anyone else.

 

[aknight3]

doesn't matter anymore to us legal folks. not a valid argument anymore . . . .

@yeah: this is a debate on how much weed should cost. . . . I have no intention of ever buying weed in my life unless the prices decrease 150%.

that does matter to us non legal folks so ya it is a valid arguement...dumbest thing i ever heard, why would i give someone 100 dollar ounce after all the hard work time effort and patience i put into my buds, and thats before the 20 yr jail sentence i face for growin it, so...



also once again if your legal and you can grow copious amounts for cheap then have at it but you cant get it to me can you? therefore ill keep growing it and getting 400 an ounce thanks for the thought but we're not all in the cali bubble buddy unfortuantely..

 

[frenchy]

I have bud pics but I didn't buy my camera until later on this year. so I couldn't take pics of my plants/ my full harvest.

all I can give you until my harvest this year is bud pics showing the quality of my outdoor.

and if that's not good enough for you, you'll have to wait till this november.





btw I've posted these pics several times in this thread to prove I know what I'm talking about. but it doesn't seem to matter to anyone else.

This thread is weak,just like your journal,seriously you can't even grow 3 plants outdoor and you come up saying weed should be 150 a zip.What the fuck do you know about growing and all the efforts involved in it,all the money spent in nuts and electrical,obviously nothing.As previously said by someone else you're probably a kid who can't buy his own weed so you just bitch and cry.do us all a favor,close the thread.

 

[poplars]

This thread is weak,just like your journal,seriously you can't even grow 3 plants outdoor and you come up saying weed should be 150 a zip.What the fuck do you know about growing and all the efforts involved in it,all the money spent in nuts and electrical,obviously nothing.As previously said by someone else you're probably a kid who can't buy his own weed so you just bitch and cry.do us all a favor,close the thread.

thanks for trolling and talking shit, you definitely show your true intelligence here.

I love it when people try to say I know nothing about growing, jesus fuck. why don't you look at that 09 journal, I BUILT that garden. that isn't a backyard, or something else, I built that and did everything. and this isn't my first year growing either, so fuck your assumptions.

 

[frenchy]

thanks for trolling and talking shit, you definitely show your true intelligence here.

I love it when people try to say I know nothing about growing, jesus fuck. why don't you look at that 09 journal, I BUILT that garden. that isn't a backyard, or something else, I built that and did everything. and this isn't my first year growing either, so fuck your assumptions.

I just looked at it,im still not impressed,like i said,you shouldn't be talking about shit you know nothing about.Outdoor requires nothing but miracle grow and water.It's funny how you keep bringing intelligence in some of your posts,it does take some kind of common sense to grow indoor,im not surprised you're not doing it.Seriously,it's obvious you only grow for yourself,stop crying about prices

 

[frenchy]

Wtf?you grow with your mom.lol