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[simpsonsampson420]

i have fallen in love with super cropping... even though the results are the consistant, i am still amazed at the results i get... nothing is better than super cropping in the after noon and walking in to the grow room in the morning and seeing a huge growth spurt...

which brings me to a theory i have been working on.. and i am sure its already been said.. but i think that super cropping actually increases your growth rate of your plant... and here is why...

first, lets talk about what super cropping does.. it pushes the lower growth up by making that plant think it has no top... so some/all/most of the growth that would be low on the plant is now towards the top... what that means is there is more growth near the light source... more of the plant catching more light equals more growth, faster growth, and healthier growth... well the healthier was just thrown in there to make it sound good.. i dont know if super cropping actually makes the plant healthier.. unless you count where the stems thicken up so much at the super crop location..

the other part of it that makes me think it increase growth is because of the transfer of auxins that occurs.. when you top/super crop/fim it moves the growth hormones from the top of the plant to the tips of all the other shoots... this means an increase in growth rate on all the other shoots... at least i think it does.. or as far as i can tell it does... in my situation..

does this make sense to anyone else?? or has any had similar ideas/theories/experinces with super cropping??

i may post this in the general discussion forum itself just to see what people say.. but i dont know yet..

 

[mygirls]

i have fallen in love with super cropping... even though the results are the consistant, i am still amazed at the results i get... nothing is better than super cropping in the after noon and walking in to the grow room in the morning and seeing a huge growth spurt...

which brings me to a theory i have been working on.. and i am sure its already been said.. but i think that super cropping actually increases your growth rate of your plant... and here is why...

first, lets talk about what super cropping does.. it pushes the lower growth up by making that plant think it has no top... so some/all/most of the growth that would be low on the plant is now towards the top... what that means is there is more growth near the light source... more of the plant catching more light equals more growth, faster growth, and healthier growth... well the healthier was just thrown in there to make it sound good.. i dont know if super cropping actually makes the plant healthier.. unless you count where the stems thicken up so much at the super crop location..

the other part of it that makes me think it increase growth is because of the transfer of auxins that occurs.. when you top/super crop/fim it moves the growth hormones from the top of the plant to the tips of all the other shoots... this means an increase in growth rate on all the other shoots... at least i think it does.. or as far as i can tell it does... in my situation..

does this make sense to anyone else?? or has any had similar ideas/theories/experinces with super cropping??

i may post this in the general discussion forum itself just to see what people say.. but i dont know yet..

dude don't let your woman read that post.....LOL she might get mad your in love hehehehehehehe.. im to high to makesence of anything right no LOL it 6am here... smoke on

 

[simpsonsampson420]

she would get pissed no matter what.. thats just her.. lol

well when you get less high and can make sense of things re read it.. i think you'll agree!!

damn bro.. 6 am huh?? wife heading to work?? or are you just one of those "up at the crack of dawn" people??

 

[mygirls]

she would get pissed no matter what.. thats just her.. lol

well when you get less high and can make sense of things re read it.. i think you'll agree!!

damn bro.. 6 am huh?? wife heading to work?? or are you just one of those "up at the crack of dawn" people??

she gets up at 5am but im up at 4am.. i hear my bong whimering from lonlyness.....LOL

 

[slipperyP]

she gets up at 5am but im up at 4am.. i hear my bong whimering from lonlyness.....LOL

Good morning men.....I can still hear my exwifes voice ringing in my ears..."Your seirously up smoking bong hits already"....

Nothing better then the wake and bake.

I think with super croping increases the size of the stem so it can draw more nutrients.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

just do what i do.. keep her close to the bed.. seriously.. i try to keep a bowl or a bong or a half smoked blunt near me when i sleep... if i wake up in the night, i take a couple hits.. and then its back to sleep

 

[simpsonsampson420]

Good morning men.....I can still hear my exwifes voice ringing in my ears..."Your seirously up smoking bong hits already"....

Nothing better then the wake and bake.

I think with super croping increases the size of the stem so it can draw more nutrients.

good morning brotha... hows it goin today?


i dont ever want a wife.. just a really good fuck buddy for life...



so do you think that the increase in stem size, and its ability to draw more nutes, is the reason for the increase in growth?? or just another reason that they seem to grow faster??

 

[mygirls]

Good morning men.....I can still hear my exwifes voice ringing in my ears..."Your seirously up smoking bong hits already"....

Nothing better then the wake and bake.

I think with super croping increases the size of the stem so it can draw more nutrients.

yep im to high to think strain in order to put the bong down, so im smokeing ALL DAY LONG......

 

[simpsonsampson420]

i try to smoke all day.. i dont like being sober... it makes me more aware of my pain and shit.. and if i get to worked up and im sober (ie pissed, in a fight, super stressed) i always trip about having another seizure.. so i stay high.. keeps my pain away for the most part.. keeps me calm for the most part.. and definatly helps me to cope with both pain and anxiety (i guess you would call it) 1000 times better than i normally would

 

[slipperyP]

good morning brotha... hows it goin today?


i dont ever want a wife.. just a really good fuck buddy for life...



so do you think that the increase in stem size, and its ability to draw more nutes, is the reason for the increase in growth?? or just another reason that they seem to grow faster??

I think its a one of a number of reasons. I have experimented with super cropping with my first couple harvests and, theres no doubt in my mind it increases yeild. The plants I have budding now had such little veg time that they didn't get a chance to get super cropped.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

how long of a veg time?? i super crop my girls multiple times... and starting young.. maybe 5 or 6 inches tall... i dont know if its good or bad that young or not.. but it definatly seems that a day or two later growth really explodes in the little girls.. i have been doing it, almost as a growth booster...

 

[slipperyP]

how long of a veg time?? i super crop my girls multiple times... and starting young.. maybe 5 or 6 inches tall... i dont know if its good or bad that young or not.. but it definatly seems that a day or two later growth really explodes in the little girls.. i have been doing it, almost as a growth booster...

They had time...I am just light on veg power so I need more time, they were in for 3 or 4 weeks. But because I only have 100 watts MH and 80 watts flourecent for veg right now Im budding my plants small.

I cant decide what to order for veg....If i dont' get a 1000mh ill feel underpowered...even though a 400 watt probally would do for my purposes.

Im in love with the 400 HO flourecents you have and havent ruled a veg room with a couple of those in would be sweet too?

 

[simpsonsampson420]

to tell you the truth, if the hps hadnt been so much cheaper, i would have gotten more of the floros.. same thing with my flower room.. if i could afford to make a solid canopy of my floros i would.. but i figured out it would cost 5 grand JUST for lights... that would take my total up to almost 10 grand that i would need to expand... so yea.. 1000w hps it is..

the worst thing is the fucking light bleaching.. i dont have that problem at all, no matter how small the plant, with the 400w floros.. i didnt know what it was at first glance until i realized it was only the ones under the hps.. then it made sense.. but the floros are expensive... i guess it depends on what you want to drop..

if you do go with mh tho, i would say either a 600 or 1000.. but lean more towards the 600..

 

[slipperyP]

to tell you the truth, if the hps hadnt been so much cheaper, i would have gotten more of the floros.. same thing with my flower room.. if i could afford to make a solid canopy of my floros i would.. but i figured out it would cost 5 grand JUST for lights... that would take my total up to almost 10 grand that i would need to expand... so yea.. 1000w hps it is..

the worst thing is the fucking light bleaching.. i dont have that problem at all, no matter how small the plant, with the 400w floros.. i didnt know what it was at first glance until i realized it was only the ones under the hps.. then it made sense.. but the floros are expensive... i guess it depends on what you want to drop..

if you do go with mh tho, i would say either a 600 or 1000.. but lean more towards the 600..

whats the signs of light bleaching...I have 2 plants that are doing something fuct...heres a pic....I flushed and started refeeding? I will just have to wait and see whats up.

I have been looking for a diagnosis but have been busy off the computer...I think it may be potasium deff?

 

[simpsonsampson420]

light bleaching pretty much is what it sounds like.. the leaves turn almost white.. its at the top of the plant.. they will dry... make a V shape.. and turn damn near white...

i think what you have is either a magnesium or manganese deficiency... i'll give you a brief run down of the symptoms and you see what fits best...

mag def: interveinal rusting and browning on older and middle aged leaves... while younger leaves look ok...

leaves start to turn brown and curl up

rust spots begin to multiply, and yellowing increases

rusting yellowing starts towards bottom of the plant and works its way upwards..

younger leaves start getting the same symptoms


manganese - young leaves show signs first...

intervienal yellowing while veins stay green on leaves

symptoms spread to older leaves

dead spots appear on leaves

severly affected leaves turn pale and fall off

basically like a sever magnesium def.. except it starts on young leaves and work to older ones... while magnesium defs start with older leaves and the bottom of the plant and work upwards and to new growth...

 

[slipperyP]

light bleaching pretty much is what it sounds like.. the leaves turn almost white.. its at the top of the plant.. they will dry... make a V shape.. and turn damn near white...

i think what you have is either a magnesium or manganese deficiency... i'll give you a brief run down of the symptoms and you see what fits best...

mag def: interveinal rusting and browning on older and middle aged leaves... while younger leaves look ok...

leaves start to turn brown and curl up

rust spots begin to multiply, and yellowing increases

rusting yellowing starts towards bottom of the plant and works its way upwards..

younger leaves start getting the same symptoms


manganese - young leaves show signs first...

intervienal yellowing while veins stay green on leaves

symptoms spread to older leaves

dead spots appear on leaves

severly affected leaves turn pale and fall off

basically like a sever magnesium def.. except it starts on young leaves and work to older ones... while magnesium defs start with older leaves and the bottom of the plant and work upwards and to new growth...

It sounds like the top....cal/mag That will proabally do it you think

 

[simpsonsampson420]

oh yea.. that should clear the problem right up..

 

[simpsonsampson420]

wow.. what a morning.. its been crazy already.. and i've only been up for an hour maybe!!

starts out normal.. take the dogs out first thing... come in and proceed upstairs to check the grow... and thats where things got fucked...........

first off i was really happy this morning when i first walked in.. the girls were all happy... they have really started to catch up to the older girls... i had to move the strawberry cough to where the bluehash plant was for room.. the SC is almost as big as the WS is now... started taking my pics for the day.. was happy to put them up...

i raised up the lights to get a couple more pics of the "top down" view because you cant see 2 or so of the girls due to the white shark... got my pics... was adjust one of the chains on the light and thats when it happened.. one of the support hooks i have on the light lifting system come loose and the lights fell... all 4 girls in the middle row were now holding up the lights...

as quick as i could i began raising them.. at first i didnt notice the hook was loose (i was kind of in panic mode.. not something you can be prepared for when you first wake up) and i tried to just reset the bolt that holds the lifters in place... well of course as soon as i let go it fell again..

again i raised the lights again... i realized what was wrong.. and spent the next 10 minutes trying to hold the light lifter in place (which holds 2 lights on it.. so about 40 or 50 pounds of weight pulling down) with one hand while fixing the hook i needed to with the other.. thats was a bitch...

as soon as i got the lifter fixed i started to check the girls...

the gigabud was ok... a couple branches bent but nothing major..

the white shark was ok.. a couple branches bent but nothing major...

the bluehash was fine.. she too had a couple bent branches, but nothing major..

the blue berry tho... my heart dropped... 3 branches had broke... and i mean broke.. not horizontally.. but vertically... so i did the only thing i could think of... i grabbed the guerilla tape and taped the bitches back together... they are three of what would be colas in the center of the bush so they sorta came together in one spot... and like i said, they were vertical breaks so i HOPE and PRAY they will repair themselves.. it she doesnt i think i will cry... at least on the inside

so then i start walking out of the grow room and back down stairs when i see this black thing on my door frame.. at first i thought it was a piece of guerilla tape, dont ask why... but nope.. its a fuckin bat... just chillin.. sleepin.. doin its thing.. so i have to deal with that... still... i hope the fucker doesnt wake up until after i move him...

well............. here are some pics for ya... prior to the lights falling.. i couldnt bring myself to taking pics of the blueberry after the lights fell.. i wanted to fix her up and walk away.. let them relax.. i felt like that guy with good intentions that just seems to fuck it up in the end... so i thought it would be better for them in i left them alone.. sorta like a woman scorn... so ill buy her some chocolates and some flowers or something and take up to her later.. lol hey im trying to stay positive.. anyone think she'll survive with a 1.5" vertical split in the stem?? i hope so..

oh and slip.. i took a pic of the light bleaching i get from the hps on the white shark... ill make it the last pic so you can see... ive been rotating the plants which seems to help... but it was worse a few days ago..

 

[mygirls]

wow.. what a morning.. its been crazy already.. and i've only been up for an hour maybe!!

starts out normal.. take the dogs out first thing... come in and proceed upstairs to check the grow... and thats where things got fucked...........

first off i was really happy this morning when i first walked in.. the girls were all happy... they have really started to catch up to the older girls... i had to move the strawberry cough to where the bluehash plant was for room.. the SC is almost as big as the WS is now... started taking my pics for the day.. was happy to put them up...

i raised up the lights to get a couple more pics of the "top down" view because you cant see 2 or so of the girls due to the white shark... got my pics... was adjust one of the chains on the light and thats when it happened.. one of the support hooks i have on the light lifting system come loose and the lights fell... all 4 girls in the middle row were now holding up the lights...

as quick as i could i began raising them.. at first i didnt notice the hook was loose (i was kind of in panic mode.. not something you can be prepared for when you first wake up) and i tried to just reset the bolt that holds the lifters in place... well of course as soon as i let go it fell again..

again i raised the lights again... i realized what was wrong.. and spent the next 10 minutes trying to hold the light lifter in place (which holds 2 lights on it.. so about 40 or 50 pounds of weight pulling down) with one hand while fixing the hook i needed to with the other.. thats was a bitch...

as soon as i got the lifter fixed i started to check the girls...

the gigabud was ok... a couple branches bent but nothing major..

the white shark was ok.. a couple branches bent but nothing major...

the bluehash was fine.. she too had a couple bent branches, but nothing major..

the blue berry tho... my heart dropped... 3 branches had broke... and i mean broke.. not horizontally.. but vertically... so i did the only thing i could think of... i grabbed the guerilla tape and taped the bitches back together... they are three of what would be colas in the center of the bush so they sorta came together in one spot... and like i said, they were vertical breaks so i HOPE and PRAY they will repair themselves.. it she doesnt i think i will cry... at least on the inside

so then i start walking out of the grow room and back down stairs when i see this black thing on my door frame.. at first i thought it was a piece of guerilla tape, dont ask why... but nope.. its a fuckin bat... just chillin.. sleepin.. doin its thing.. so i have to deal with that... still... i hope the fucker doesnt wake up until after i move him...

well............. here are some pics for ya... prior to the lights falling.. i couldnt bring myself to taking pics of the blueberry after the lights fell.. i wanted to fix her up and walk away.. let them relax.. i felt like that guy with good intentions that just seems to fuck it up in the end... so i thought it would be better for them in i left them alone.. sorta like a woman scorn... so ill buy her some chocolates and some flowers or something and take up to her later.. lol hey im trying to stay positive.. anyone think she'll survive with a 1.5" vertical split in the stem?? i hope so..

oh and slip.. i took a pic of the light bleaching i get from the hps on the white shark... ill make it the last pic so you can see... ive been rotating the plants which seems to help... but it was worse a few days ago..

mornning bro.

 

[nellyatcha]

nice pet bro i would keep it bro