600w HPS cupboard grow from clones (LST)

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kootabuds

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Today is day 7 since planting the clones.

Still no roots.

Im starting to worry that they aren't going to root. Im not very experienced with cloning, is it normal for it to take more than 7 days? Last time I cloned, I had roots in about 6-7 days.

They are back in the humidity dome under fluros, the medium is still damp, temps are good.

Also the leaves are starting to yellow a bit.

 

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im not sure but i heard it takes longer to clone in soil. and it can take up to 2 weeks. they look pretty healthy to, also again i read that usally when they start to yellow it means they are about to root or have just rooted. again i read all this
 
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mcpurple said:
im not sure but i heard it takes longer to clone in soil. and it can take up to 2 weeks. they look pretty healthy to, also again i read that usally when they start to yellow it means they are about to root or have just rooted. again i read all this
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Cool thanks for your help man.

I get so impatient :)

I check them like 20 times a day lol
 
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kootabuds

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Day 9, still no roots :(

I've ordered some feminized Snow White seeds just in case my clones don't root. If my clones don't root, I'll grow the Snow Whites from seed instead. I've still got a mother that I can use for more clones, but I'd have to let it grow more before I can take more clones off it, so I'll just grow the Snow Whites if need be.



Here is a pic of their mother. I'd need to grow her up a fair bit more before I can take more clones off her:

 

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its always a good thing to have soem back ups. ur clones could still root though. and its hard to tell but the mother looks a bit nute burned
 
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mcpurple said:
its always a good thing to have soem back ups. ur clones could still root though. and its hard to tell but the mother looks a bit nute burned
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Your right the mother was a bit nute burned a few weeks ago so the bottom leaves are no good, but I flushed her a few times and all the new growth looks perfect.
 
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Ive been doing a bit more reading up on cloning and a lot of people are saying its normal for clones to yellow; apparently yellowing is a sign that they are rooting. As long as they aren't wilting (which mine aren't), then yellowing is a good thing. Makes me a bit more confident for this batch.
 
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kootabuds said:
Ive been doing a bit more reading up on cloning and a lot of people are saying its normal for clones to yellow; apparently yellowing is a sign that they are rooting. As long as they aren't wilting (which mine aren't), then yellowing is a good thing. Makes me a bit more confident for this batch.
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yes the yellowing is a good sign in most cases. and it is a sign its about to root. im sure yours will they look pretty healthy still. i think they will root. just prey to the gonja god:bigjoint:
 
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I've just transplanted them all into there growing pots.

I could only see roots on 1 plant from the outside, but when I transplanted them I could see that they all had roots. Some were only a few millimeters long, others were a few cm's.

But all had roots.

 

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told u they would root but you should have left them in the clone cups till the roots were much bigger u never want to transplant unless your out of root space . but they should be fine congrats on the succses
 
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mcpurple said:
told u they would root but you should have left them in the clone cups till the roots were much bigger u never want to transplant unless your out of root space . but they should be fine congrats on the succses
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Several articles I read yesterday said that when transplanting clones into Soil, you should not let the roots get any more than 1/2 inch long before transplanting, otherwise they will be stunted. Thats why I decided to transplant them all. Admittedly I would have preferred that they all had at least 1-2cm roots but it was kind of too late once I had already started transplanting. Also space is a bit of an issue so I just did them all. Fingers crossed they'll survive.
 
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mcpurple

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they will surivive. i wasnt sayin it had to be done that way. do u remeber where u read that also i would like to read it
 
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mcpurple said:
they will surivive. i wasnt sayin it had to be done that way. do u remeber where u read that also i would like to read it
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I can't find it now It was in a 420 forum somewhere. I will let you know if I find it.

But basically the guy was saying if you let the main water root get any longer than 1/2 inch, then when you transplant it the plant will be stunted as the main water root re-establishes itself. He was saying that if you transplant it before the main water root gets too established (ie 1/2 inch), then the plant isn't stunted so there are no delays when transplanting.

That was one article. And then there was a few follow up posts from people saying that they also have the best success with soil transplants if they don't lt the roots get too long.

So yeah after reading that I went and transplanted them all - becuase the roots on the one that I could see were at least an inch and a half long.

With all that said, today I've found articles with people saying that its better to let the roots get as long as possible. So I dunno, leaves me a bit confused lol
 
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kootabuds

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I found one of the posts:

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/how-grow-marijuana/71973-how-should-i-transplant-rooted-aero-clones-soil.html

Basically he says this:

"Let the roots get no longer than in the above pictures, in fact shorter than that is better. Preferably about 1/2" long. Carefully place them in the soil and water them in very wet...soaking wet, then let the soil become almost bone dry, by then the clone will be hardened off and rooted into the soil nicely.

If you allow the clone to develop the long water roots it will not adjust very fast and stall for about a week or more, so transplant them at or before they are 1/2" to 3/4" long. The drying down from soaking wet soil drench will encourage great rooting into the soil."
 
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mcpurple

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hey i just looked at it and i dont know if u noticed but he is using an areo cloner wich is like hydro thats why he trans plants earlyer. in soil u want them to have a nice root formation before transplanting. or if usin jiffey pellets of somsort pot themwhen the roots show threw
 
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mcpurple said:
hey i just looked at it and i dont know if u noticed but he is using an areo cloner wich is like hydro thats why he trans plants earlyer. in soil u want them to have a nice root formation before transplanting. or if usin jiffey pellets of somsort pot themwhen the roots show threw
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Thanks man I will give them longer next time.
 
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