Integra21
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Im always here to help. how big is your screen/lights? That many plants would fill out a hell of a big screen.
Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)
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bigsourD
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I'm in the process of moving to a new location. I'm still in the construction phase. As far as lights go i'll have a 1000 watt HPS in the flower room and 2 400 watt MHs in the veg room. By 12 plants i should of mentioned that it's going to be 6 mature and 6 immature.
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How big of a screen do you think i'll need?
Integra21
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it depends on the footprint your reflector makes. how faf away do you keep your lights from the tops of your girls?You pretty much want to make it as big as the coverage of your light at the closest distance you plan on keeping yourlights. my guess is probly 5'x5' or 6'x6'. Keep in mind, when you scrog, you generally dont need as many plants to cover the same square footage as before. Im also estimating you'd only need around 8 decent sized clones to fill out a screen of those sizes.
bigsourD
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General coverage for a 1000 watt is 8x8 i think... I'm going to use the Sun System Magnum XXXL reflector. With the lights cooled by a/c i keep them 7-10" away from the tops, but that's with my 400 watters. I'm planning on a 6x6 screen but this will be my first go around with the 1000, i guess i'll just have to experiment. How big is your screen again?
whodatnation
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I would personally put a 1000 over no more than 4x4 but thats just me. Ive used the xxxl before and I would use it again-
Integra21
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Have you scroged with a 1000w before? My buddy has a 600w in a different reflector than mine and we use his on a 4'x4' screen and get good coverage at the right height(about18"). I have personally never used a 1000w but a different buddy does and he has his on a mover so its a little different but his print is 5' wide and 12' long. He gets great results with it. So I figured a 5'x5' would be a perfect screen size permitting you have a reflector that gives a square footprint. I personally use SuperSunII reflectors and they are a rectangle pring and I get awesome coverage in my 3'x4' area per light.I would personally put a 1000 over no more than 4x4 but thats just me. Ive used the xxxl before and I would use it again-
bigsourD
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Okay man, thanks for your adviceI would personally put a 1000 over no more than 4x4 but thats just me. Ive used the xxxl before and I would use it again-
whodatnation
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Like I said thats just me- I have an addiction to a high watt per sq foot ratio lol
and a 1000 over a 6x6 area is only 27 watts a sq foot and 3x4 obviously works with the right reflector " great work bro"... you getting 50w a sq foot is much better but I wont go under fifty w a sq foot... im an addict! My current set-up is at 75w a sq foot! I know I have issues... but integra you are correct, a good reflector can do wonders you just gotta find the one that best fits your set-up, and there is no way Im gonna question anything having to do with scrog if its coming from you! EDIT:
#1Raiderfan420
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I agree that a 4x4 tray is a perfect fit for a 1000w. I use the xxl reflectors with light spreaders and I can keep my light as close as 10-12 inches and still cover the trays. I am sure if you keep the 1000w at 2' ( which is actually recommended) you will be fine with a 5x5 or you could get some light spreaders and get even closer. Either way, you are in the right spot to get advice on a scrog, integra is really getting it dialed in.
Integra21
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Id day there's about 20 days left. They are just starting to hit their second growth spurt. I think next res change I'll be adding the gravity.great pics in that last update that shit looks so good!!!
Thanks raider. Yeah, as long as you have the space, having the scrren that big doesnt mean you have to use the whole thing if you dont like the light coverage. You can always train it to fill out as much of it as you want. Let me know what you decide to go with.
bigsourD
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Yeah I think i've came to the conclusion of having a 4x4 tray. The light spread on the 1000 is perfect for it and i'm using the light spreader as well.
Integra21
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Never hurts to get your foot in the door. after you do a grow or 2 with the screen, you'll have a lot better idea if you want to go larger, smaller, or just keep it the same. I personally haven't gotten to see what a 1000w can do with a nice screen so I am looking forward to you getting it all set up. As always, if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
#1Raiderfan420
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I use the 4x4's and when the canopy wants to get wider than my 4x4 screen I just secure the outside branches to the outside edges of the screen. That is if you aren't making your screen larger than the trays as I think integra mentioned. Sounds like you got it figured out and as integra said you will learn as you go for sure.
littlegrower2004
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integra- about how far are the tops of your plants from the lights? seems like you get plenty of coverage and good amount of buddage from that length. ive been keeping my 600w too low i think since most my new growth is light green and some looked bleached almost.
quickrip
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Ive got my Pk clones nicely rooted in 6 in cubes and about to go onto slabs under a a 3x6 screen with 2 1000's next week. Hopefully I can give a decent show of what 1000s can do with a screen setup.
Integra21
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I keep the lights about 16" from the tops of the plants. And if they are to close, you get that light colored bleached looking leaves in heavy concentration in the areas closest to the light. If that is happening, just back the lights off 2-6 inches and see how they do.
Sweet. I want to see that once you get it up and running. I tried to get my buddy with the 1000w to try a scrog, but he's afraid of new things even when he sees how mine do and I get bigger yields with my 600w's, but hey, some people are just stubborn.
Integra21
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Ok. I just did a res change on the Piss and it got its first dose of Humboldt Gravity. I put 1 teaspoon into my 5 gallon mix. I also added 1 tsp of Ultra SnowStorm. Lets hope they're not dead when I wake up, Last time I added something to my res without testing it on worthless plants first, the whole crop died. I sure hope that doesnt happen again, but if it does, at least I still have the Blue Kush.
#1Raiderfan420
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Don't say that man, just don't say it. lol No seriously, every time I say something negative or get too over confident that things are going smooth, I have issues. I am throwing lots of good vibes your plants way. I am sure they will be fine though man. They are so healthy that they could handle a little stress and be fine.