legalizeitcanada
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Awesome grow man....CONGRATS!!
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Danielsgb
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I got the results of my soil back from Texas.
This mix is
2 c. ft. Cheap Top Soil
1 5 gal. bucket of Peat Moss, Perlite, Vermiculite
1.5 cups Blood Meal
1 cup Bone Meal
.25 cup Dolomite Lime
My sample come back over 'all Critical Levels' (CL) except for Sodium
It was
pH 6.9 Slightly Acid
Conductivity 954 Moderate
Nitrate-N 65 ppm Critical Levels are CL and N is -
Phosphorus 187 ppm CL 50
Potassium 785 ppm CL 175
Calcium 1,262 ppm CL 180
Magnesium 398 ppm CL 50
Sulfur 91 ppm CL 13
Sodium 397 ppm CL -
Iron 20.55 ppm CL 4.25
Zinc 2.51 ppm CL .27
Manganese 14.03 ppm CL 1.00
Copper 1.09 ppm CL .16
How this look?
Daniels
This mix is
2 c. ft. Cheap Top Soil
1 5 gal. bucket of Peat Moss, Perlite, Vermiculite
1.5 cups Blood Meal
1 cup Bone Meal
.25 cup Dolomite Lime
My sample come back over 'all Critical Levels' (CL) except for Sodium
It was
pH 6.9 Slightly Acid
Conductivity 954 Moderate
Nitrate-N 65 ppm Critical Levels are CL and N is -
Phosphorus 187 ppm CL 50
Potassium 785 ppm CL 175
Calcium 1,262 ppm CL 180
Magnesium 398 ppm CL 50
Sulfur 91 ppm CL 13
Sodium 397 ppm CL -
Iron 20.55 ppm CL 4.25
Zinc 2.51 ppm CL .27
Manganese 14.03 ppm CL 1.00
Copper 1.09 ppm CL .16
How this look?
Daniels
Danielsgb
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It's good. The Critical Level means no additional nutrient is recommended. It shows a Excess line which they are all a ways from, but in High or Very High.
I guess I could send in a sample after it's use all the way through flowering. It would show me how I did keeping my soil good. But fuck it, I just give it to the H.G. for her flower beds. Which thrills her, BTW.
Daniels
gumball
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Ok, that makes sense. I misunderstood the "critical" part! I thought that meant bad. Have you checked your local nurseries for free soil tests? Figured u have since you were in landscaping for so long before your MS.
I am gonna have to get one done to be consistently successful
At growing anything, including Lady Jane!
Thanks for the info Daniels!
I am gonna have to get one done to be consistently successful
At growing anything, including Lady Jane!
Thanks for the info Daniels!
Danielsgb
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Here's the form I send in the with my soil.
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/publications/veghandbook/chapter_pdfs/Sample Form-Soil Analysis D-494.pdf
For $15 I think it's the shit. Uncle Ben showed me it.
Daniels
Danielsgb
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I got everything trimmed, and into jars to cure. After I was done, I saw the moon rise and it was a 'Harvest Moon'. Nature must be satisfied. Here's some pics of my haul. I'll wait for it to cure and dry before it's final weigh in. For a smoke report, it's strong and has a hash after-taste to it. It has to cure before I'm sure on the smoke from it.
Daniels
Daniels
legalizeitcanada
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Ha you saw that last night tooo, i was out at my spot to water the girls with my partner and was like look at that, looks like harvest moon.....lol.....it changed by round 11 though back to good ole whity!!
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Danielsgb
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Today was a Final Weigh In for these three. gumball you were right on. I would have been happy with over 3 oz.
It was 114.5 grams. I know I smoked/shared/traded over a solid eighth maybe closer to a quarter. I'll just add 4.5 so 119 grams. A QP and a quarter for 3 plants under two 150W HPS. Aisha's Main Cola was 5.5g trimmed up real 'pretty'. It was
Eden 35.5
Aisha 37
Cleo 42
For a smoke report I get a sweet citrus/lemony taste with a hint of pine. I get a hash after taste. I seems as strong as almost all of the meds I've gotten here. I've had a few locally that were way better but few, I've had some locally that were real comparable. So if this was my first in MANY years, and I know I can do better. I hope to climb up from here. I learned a ton. I want to thank Riddleme and Uncle Benkiss-ass
I had a slow rough start and you two are Guru's and I will be following your advice. So many others have helped Thank You all.
I will be changing a few things with my set-up. I have the 2 plants to flower started on 12/12 today after a transplanting. I'll be starting a new journal and will update this with it for all who want to follow. Cleo was the one I topped and notice she weighed in as the Fattest Royal Kush. I had 4 nice Main Cola's, and several more grams.
Daniels
gumball
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very nice harvest daniels!! i am sure you will have even better ones from now on!!!Today was a Final Weigh In for these three. gumball you were right on. I would have been happy with over 3 oz.
It was 114.5 grams. I know I smoked/shared/traded over a solid eighth maybe closer to a quarter. I'll just add 4.5 so 119 grams. A QP and a quarter for 3 plants under two 150W HPS. Aisha's Main Cola was 5.5g trimmed up real 'pretty'. It was
Eden 35.5
Aisha 37
Cleo 42
For a smoke report I get a sweet citrus/lemony taste with a hint of pine. I get a hash after taste. I seems as strong as almost all of the meds I've gotten here. I've had a few locally that were way better but few, I've had some locally that were real comparable. So if this was my first in MANY years, and I know I can do better. I hope to climb up from here. I learned a ton. I want to thank Riddleme and Uncle Benkiss-ass
I had a slow rough start and you two are Guru's and I will be following your advice. So many others have helped Thank You all.
I will be changing a few things with my set-up. I have the 2 plants to flower started on 12/12 today after a transplanting. I'll be starting a new journal and will update this with it for all who want to follow. Cleo was the one I topped and notice she weighed in as the Fattest Royal Kush. I had 4 nice Main Cola's, and several more grams.
Daniels
Danielsgb
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I need to start compiling some info to submit to my local city council and get e-mails ready. I will be commenting at their next meeting. A Mormon Deacon or whatever they call their cult leader was too much. A lady in a wheelchair spoke for it's help with her conditions and it's drastic drop in Kidney toxicity that her doctor can't explain. She should be blind by now. If she can do that, I need to speak up here. It was a Monday night and my Sunday night injection can effect me more or less. It was a 'more' so I didn't go to my first with my caregiver. I really wish I would have now. After seeing those 'con' people and blatant lies I have to use my Political Science degree for something now. I am a VERY Private person, way more so since this M.S. but I have to respectfully say WTF. As you can all probably see I'm feeling the time is coming to dive way deeper into this. I would love any info in additions to stuff from Riddleme I got here. They need to see the uses for Cannabis, then realize to ban it is unacceptable in a criminally negligent way. I'd go for some Meth enforcement in a town with a serious problem. I will be pointing out a fire bombing of a store front caregiver's shop and a vandal attack the day before a council meeting is by FAR the worst thing to happen here for Medical Marijuana.
Daniels
Daniels
1840 - 1937
The Golden Age of Medical Cannabis
ADVERTISEMENT - 1917
While western doctors had made use of Cannabis for a variety of minor ailments ever since the days of Galen. It wasn't until O'Shaughnessy (an Irish doctor, who while in India learned about Cannabis from local Mohammedan and Hindu physicians), returned from the Bengal (1839) and published his findings, that the western world begin to take notice. At a time when western medicine had few if any reliable drugs, here was an analgesic (painkiller), a sedative and antispasmodic agent all in one. And best of all, it had a very low toxicity rate (to this day no one has died from its use) and could be grown almost anywhere in commercial quantities.
For obvious reasons, Cannabis Indica or Medical Marihuana soon became an indispensable part of western medicine. In fact, it spread throughout the western world like wildfire, and within a few years would be as common a medical ingredient in medicines as aspirin is today.
What Was The First (known) Antique Cannabis Medicine?
What Year Was It Made In?
What Firm Manufactured It?
The following is a short article, taken from the June 1890 (page 104) issue of the American Druggist.Extract of Cannabis IndicaThus it can be stated that the very first (known) Antique Cannabis Medicine was bottled in London England (1840).
Dr. Cripps Lawrence warns prescribers to be careful regarding the use of this extract, which is well known to be of exceedingly variable activity, owing to the crude drug being sometimes inert and sometimes active. He mentions that five years ago Messers, Squire & sons informed him that from the time Dr. O’Shaughnessy first introduced cannabis indica into England, and gave some to the late Mr. Peter Squire in order to make it into an extract, up to the present day, they have been continuously supplied by the original collectors of the plant, and each sample has proved good, yielding efficient preparations; but they have found that the active principles vary in different specimens of the plant from year to year, so that they cannot predicate the actual degree of potency to be attributed to an extract or tincture prepared under identical conditions, until the preparation has been adequately tested for any given year. In this connection we may recall the advice of Dr. George Watt contained in a communication to the Chemist and Druggist (Feb. 19th, 1887), in which he recommends “chemists desirous of making the very best extracts of Indian hemp to pay the full price for Bengal ‘Ganja,’ and to import the article from Calcutta instead of from Bombay, when there would be every chance that the defects complained of in the extract as now prepared would disappear completely.” The reason of this recommendation is that the greatest care is taken in Bengal to insure that the female plants are not fertilized by the male, so that the full narcotic power of the drug may be retained. This it loses after fertilization.
NOTE: This museum only deals with Brand or Trade name products manufactured by established firms, not with generic products. Thus in terms of Western Medicine, 1840 is our starting date. However, it is still very much possible that some (let us say), Indian medical products could pre-date the above product, but at least for now, none that we know of.
QUESTION: On a Brand or Trade Name Basis; How Many (legal) pre-1937 Medical Cannabis Medicines were there?
ANSWER: World-Wide, somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000 --- That’s not a joke, that’s the answer. In case this is a little hard to swallow, maybe an explanation, by way of a fictional story, is in order.
THE DOPE ADVENTURES OF DARLA DARE:[A]
It was a public forum . . . the city council was debating whether or not to impose a ban on all medical cannabis dispensaries in the city. Darla Dare sat patiently as one speaker after another spoke out on the ordinance. One narcotics official stated:
- “Medical Cannabis has no medical uses” and . . . “those who thought that way were in denial, YES there’re in denial.”
Darla Dare pointed to various posters showing old Cannabis Medicines.
Darla Dare pointed to various posters showing old Cannabis Medicines.
Darla Dare pointed to various posters showing old Cannabis Medicines.
Darla Dare pointed to various posters showing old Cannabis Medicines.
Darla Dare pointed to various posters showing old Cannabis Medicines.
Another said that, “Proper medicines come in pill form and you buy them in a drug store.” Therefore he was not in support of anyone using Medical Cannabis.
Yet another spoke about a conspiracy of the un-washed hippy. That he deliberately got Cancer, just so he would have an excuse to use Medical Cannabis ; But that we were going to stop him. . . . . And on and on the speakers went on, until it was Darla Dare’s turn to speak.
“My name is Darla Dare, I am with a pro-Medical Cannabis museum. Our museum has documented well over 600 pre-1937 (meaning legal) medical cannabis medicines; ALL of which incidentally were sold in drugstores on a brand or trade name bases.”
Darla Dare now pointed to various posters she had brought with her showing pictures of old Antique Cannabis Medicines and went on. “Here are examples of some of these pre-1937 pharmaceutical medicines.”
At this point, there was now an obvious tension in the meeting room, just a few speakers earlier a narcotics police spokeswoman had stated that, Medical Marihuana had NO MEDICAL uses. “That it never had and never would.” Yet here was actual proof, that this just wasn’t the case. The tension was so high that one of the city council members had to interrupt Darla Dare and ask a question. “Young woman, you stated well over 600 such medicines? I find that a little hard to believe.”
“Well actually our museum has probably documented over 2,000 by now, there were just so many that we stopped counting some ten years or so ago at six hundred.” "WHAT," said the council member, obviously taken aback, "How can there have been so many and what do you mean by document?"
Darla Dare politely looked about her, it was obvious that after so many negative speakers that some were doubting her statements. But she politely replied, “By documentation, I mean something that will stand up in court. As example:
An old medical patent application specifically mentioning the use of Medical Cannabis.
Corporate sales leaflets, or magazine advertisements, specifically mentioning the use of Medical Cannabis in their products.
A reputable Trade or Medical magazine article -- specifically mentioning the medical product and the fact that Medical Cannabis in used.
Old Pharmaceutical Price and Product Catalogs etc.
“All of which make excellent sources of documentation. For example," and here Darla Dare, reached into a backpack and pulled out an old 'Eli Lilly' Price and Product catalog from the year 1920. “This old catalog documents that in 1920 the Eli Lilly Co., was making and selling around 20 medicines that in one form or another made use of Medical Cannabis.”
What? Said the city council member again, exactly how many ways of smoking this stuff did they have?
Darla Dare replied, “Well they didn't, in fact of all the brand or trade name medicines that we have been able to document so far, only 'one' is smokable. All the rest are either external lotions or oral medications. As you can see by the pictures, before being outlawed, Medical Cannabis came in pill form and you bought it in a drug store. However, many of these medicines were what we now call, 'compound medicines' ; Meaning that there was more then one ingredient in them. Are you able to follow?”
Yes, I guess I can, but please go on -- you were saying.
“I was merely going to point out that this old catalog (year 1920) predates the Reefer Madness dis-information campaign by about a decade or so. That means that there are no stories yet about scanty clad girls (jumping out of windows), no boys (under the influence of Medical Cannabis) grabbing axes and killing whole families, etc. That at this time Medical Cannabis was just another ho-hum but legal medicine and thus no reason not to include it in one's corporate sales catalogs. I believe that another firm, Parke-Davies, holds the record with over 74 Cannabis medicines in just one of their catalogs.” The audience at the city council meeting was now silent; no one had ever brought up these facts before.
"But", interrupted yet another council member, isn’t that figure 2,000 medicines, especially as you stated on a Brand or Trade name bases, a little on the high side?
“Actually NO,” said Darla Dare. “These are the ones that we have been able to fully document, we know for a fact that they existed. But please don’t take my word for it. Our museum has collected over a hundred of these old pharmaceutical price and product catalogs, and religiously computer scanned selected pages. I'm not trying to hock anything here, but we do make this documentation available to the public in CD-rom format at cost.”
But to specifically answer your question, we believe that in total there were probably between 20,000 and 30,000 of these legal pre-1937 medicines. Again, all being sold under a specific brand or trade name.
“What, now wait a minute”, screamed one of the city council women. Already the room was in an uproar, some saying that this had to be a lie, others that it was the drug police had been lying to them for years. But it was obvious that some who had spoken earlier were somewhat uncomfortable with the situation.
“Young woman, this is not very funny,” stated the councilwomen. “I feel you should provide some level of proof to your statements or apologize to everyone in this room.”
“Gladly” said Darla Dare. “I stated earlier that our museum has been able to obtain over a hundred of these old pre-1937 pharmaceutical price and product catalogs. The problem is that between 1850 and 1937 (the years most Antique Cannabis Medicines come from), there were probably over one-thousand pharmaceutical manufacturers in the New York City area alone. And I can assure you that N.Y. was not the only pharmaceutical hub that we had back then. In effect, this means that we have only skimmed the surface of what’s out there to document. And please understand that it’s not for lack of will but lack of finances that prevent us from obtaining yet more.“ [C]
“But be that as it may, we must also take into account that our museum mostly deals with English language North American pharmaceutical antiques. The devil only knows how many German, Swedish, Italian . . . etc., antique Cannabis medicines were out there. But between twenty and thirty thousand world-wide is about right.”
“But young woman” said the city council member. “I’m still having a little trouble believing you. How could Medical Cannabis have been used in so many medicines?”
“Please forgive me,” said Darla Dare, “I’ll speak in terms that you can understand.” “Back in 1840 a Dr. O’Shaughnessy, documented that Cannabis had three major uses, those being:
As a sedative
As a pain killer
As an anti-spasmodic
At a time when even aspirin had not yet been invented and western medicine had few reliable drugs ; anyone of the above uses made Medical Cannabis a wonder drug. But soon doctors found numerous other medical uses, as well as numerous sub-uses for Cannabis."
"Uses, Sub-uses, what's the difference?," asked a councilwomen.
"Oh, I guess that could be confusing," said Darla Dare. "Let me give you a couple of examples. When used as a sedative, Medical Cannabis is great, but if a doctor recommends a stronger dosage, it than acts as a safe sleeping agent. That's an example of a sub-use. On the other hand, a good example of a major medical use occured some forty years after O'Shaughnessy. That was when drug manufacturers discovered that Cannabis could also be used in cough syrups, etc. Our website has a good list of it uses - [www.AntiqueCannabisBook.com].”
Your words certainly contradict what our narcotics police are saying”
“Yes they certainly do” said Darla Dare. “But then the axis of Evil, always seems to have an axe to grind.” To which a bit of laughter broke out in the room.
“I protest,” said one of the narcotics officials who had spoken earlier claiming no medical uses. Many of these drugs she was speaking about are repeats, the same drug simply made by two different manufacturers.
“That is true” said Darla Dare, “Back in the 19th Century, most manufacturers produced what were essentially the same drugs, with extremely small modifications between them. No one is denying that, in fact our museum website even has a whole sub-section dealing with this factor.”
“What section is this?”, asked the narc. “The section on Chlorodyne” answered Darla Dare.
“Now wait a minute”, broke in one of the City Council members. “Isn’t that a bit like cheating? I mean some of these medicines are being counted twice, aren’t they?”
“More than twice, I would think,” said Darla Dare, “At this point, I believe we’ve found about 20 manufacturers that made Chlorodyne alone. Would you like me to expand on the subject?”
“Please do”, said the narc, as did the City Council member.
“Well as I’ve already said, many of the drugs sold before 1937 were generic in nature, meaning that more than one pharmaceutical company was manufacturing it. However, as they were sold under different brand or trade names (as a museum, we do count them multiple times. And additionally, if I may add, it is also possible for one manufacturer to package (essentially the same drug) in pill as well as tablet form, and our museum would also count this twice.
“But” Darla Dare went on, “Allow me to ask all of you a trick question: How many legal makers of pre-1937 Cannabis medicines were there in this country? “
After waiting for a few seconds, she went on, “The answer is probably somewhere between two hundred and three hundred thousand.” At this point there was almost dead silence in the meeting room. "How could this be?" everyone was thinking.
<B>“Maybe an explanation is in order. To most people the very concept behind home-brew medicines, (the art of making batches of one's own medicines at home), must seem a little bit odd at best. And not without good reason, as the practice must have been a haphazard one at best. Yet at one time, home brewed medicines were very common. In fact, from an ideological viewpoint, they were part of the Jeffersonian ideals. Perhaps the following quote best describes this viewpoint:‘It bestowed upon everyone the alleged ability to heal themselves apart from the pretensions of the allopathic physician. Such a therapeutic system resonated with a Jacksonian democracy attempting to divest itself of what it viewed as elitist European notions that skill and knowledge are reserved only for those of rank and privilege. ---‘John Uri Lloyd’ by Michael Flannery - pp30“For good or for bad, Jeffersonian ideals lead at least in part to the creation of the public school systems and with the ability to read and write, lots and lots of 'How To Do It' books. One didn’t have to go far during this era to locate a book of recipes on medicines for various ailments. I guess one could say, everyone was encouraged to be his or her own doctor. </B>
However, I think you can all see how this situation could led to a little over counting.” Some laughter broke out among the audience. . . “Which is why we only count them if they were sold under a specific Brand or Trade name; Essentially to eliminate this problem. We also have adopted a couple of other restrictions:
We’ve found that these restrictions pretty much prevent grannies hooch as well as the fly-by-nights, but we do devote a whole subsection on our website to Quack medicines, -- of which there weren’t very many.” At this time, it was becoming obvious that public opinion was now shifting away from the narc's and their anti-Cannabis dispensatory ordinance.
- Manufacturing had to have taken place in an area specifically set up for pharmaceutical manufacturing -- not in someone’s back yard.
- The manufacturing firm in question had to have had the proper business licensing for the given era.
“But Ms. (ah) Dare”, said one of the anti-Medical Cannabis City Council Members. “We still have the fact that many of these thousands of pre-1937 (ah) Antique Cannabis Medicines are duplicate counts. Isn’t that cheating?”
Darla Dare replied, “I guess so, if you wish to view it as such --- after all this was an era of generic drugs. However, IF WE WANTED TO CHEAT as you say, we would simply start counting the 500 tablet bottle, as opposed to the 50 or 100 tablet bottles, multiple times. That would make for a really big count real fast."
Laughter once more broke out among the audience, with even some of the City council members joining in.
“Please forgive me” said Darla Dare. “I was only trying to show that, before the passage of the anti-Medical Marihuana laws and contrary to what some of the previous speakers would have you think, Cannabis was in widespread medical use. And as you see by the fact that so many Medical Cannabis dispensaries exist (where legal), it still is to this very day.”
“I think you made your point,” said another member of the city council. It was now obvious, even to the narc’s that their anti-medical Cannabis dispensary law wasn’t going to pass. The public had lost all support for it, . . .
FOOTNOTES:
[A]- Darla Dare herself is a fictional character modeled after Earle Rowell’s (author of Marihuana the weed of madness 1939) own fictional character David Dare. However all incidents actually have happened in real life.
- This figure comes to us via (what we would now term) old phone books, city directories, trade magazines etc.
[C]- If anyone out there has an extra $1,000, this museum curator knows where to go and document yet another 500 more Medical Cannabis Antiques. It's not the lack of will but the lack of $$$ that is holding things back.
here is the link
http://antiquecannabisbook.com/chap2B/GoldenAge/GoldenAge.htm
Danielsgb
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Here's the letter I'm working on.
City council
I use medical marijuana for my Multiple Sclerosis and want to voice my support for the local caregivers. I have muscle spasticity, among other ailments. I have to give myself a weekly intramuscular injection which a side effect gives me nausea, and flu like symptoms. I have a prescription for an anti-nausea pill that I used for the first few months. I was warned only 1 pill in the morning after my shot due to its toxicity and risk of Brain/Neurological damage. Think of how scary that is for someone with M.S. I didnt refill it, as a tincture can help with ZERO risk to my already damaged Neurological system. I was given a prescription for Flexaril for muscle spasms, and warned it is addictive so be careful. I hate it, as enough to help also means I feel groggy or just go take a nap. I think this need to be made clear. The use of Cannabis as a medicine is real, and not just hippies who want to smoke weed.
I have some info to present you with and feel it needs to be made clear that my caregiver James from Heaven Scent needs to be supported along with these caregivers.. By far, the worst thing Ive seen happen with this Medical Marijuana in Billings is a Fire Bombing Attack the night before your meeting by the other side of this situation. I will speak at the next meeting if my address remains private. If that can not happen I will meet privately. These caregivers have put a lot into these businesses, and having to relocate is not fair. Making them open up across the street from a porn shop is not the right thing to do. My caregiver will deliver to me as sometimes my leg shakes more than I feel comfortable with while driving. He will try to help with things to make my M.S. easier. I dont think Walmart will help with medications and dosages. You should be supporting locals who wish to hire more locals, pay local taxes, and more importantly help people. I would like to see a dedicated small local tax strictly to fight Meth. That is a true danger to a community.
If you ruin them isnt it obvious that this market will get filled by out of town, out of county, and the key Out of State suppliers. For you Conservatives isnt a market that will be filled anyway better off paying taxes and regulating itself as much as possible. Then government regulations as few as possible How does this get solved by forcing this back to the black-market instead of letting those that show they can succeed and those that fail letting an already harsh criminal penalty come at them.
I think it's a good start.
Daniels
gumball
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That sounds real good daniels! Does your states MMJ act protect those who use it legally from prejudice? If it does, it may be worth adding that these caregivers are being discriminated against based on profession. I think your whole letter kinda speaks to that. But if the law is suppose to protect the patients and caregivers then maybe a little mire emphasis. Just a thought I had because when I read the proposed NC MMJ act it had protections specified in it like that. Whether they get (or got in your case) written into law is a totally different story.
Good luck and I am sure it will go well for you.
Good luck and I am sure it will go well for you.