Why the surge will never work in Iraq!
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natrone23
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This reminds of what Mitt romney said when he was asked why none of his 5 sons served in the Armed forces......he said their serving there country by trying to get him elected...........your comparison of service is even more ridiculous
ViRedd
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All of us self employed and independent contractors ARE defending the country right here at home. BS,you say? Hey, we are defending our country as best we can from the legalized felons who pass laws that make theft legal. You know, like the legalized crooks who tell us that the citizens of California must pay to replace infrastructure for those stupid enough to build below sea level? Or those legal crooks that say we must support five other families in addition to our own because we work harder?
There is no shame in not working for someone else, nor is there any shame in not serving in the military either.
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There is no shame in not working for someone else, nor is there any shame in not serving in the military either.
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ccodiane
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It called freedom, this thing that we have, you naive mouthpiece. If one chooses to serve, fine. If not, fine. I'm not one of the mindless idiots who accepts the argument that, "if you haven't done it, you shouldn't comment on it." Thats a liberal position that I don't subscribe to. God bless the brave men and women who volunteered to do the groundwork in this momentous endeavor. I support them in voice and action, more than you have done so far. I voted for Bush twice, which I'm not afraid to admit. That in itself is more than you have done, since the beginning of this war, to support our armed forces. Why not take a moment to complement their service instead of wasting all your time trying to gain some footing in your fight against this here conservative? You won't win, ever. You don't have it in you. Your a defeatist fighting for a false sense of pride and accomplishment, nothing more, nothing less. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can move on to something productive. Start that thread you always wanted, talk to your friends about cock, whatever.
medicineman
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Funny, that's exactly how I picture you, a huge dick,~LOL~, no seriously.
natrone23
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CCodiane I voted for Bush twice, which I'm not afraid to admit. That in itself is more than you have done, since the beginning of this war, to support our armed forces
This is exactly what I'm talking about.....you compare yourself a felon (who somehow voted) who voted for GWB as doing more for the troops........Than myself who actually was a "troop" and did your fighting, Ive put my life life on the line for my fellow "Troops" day after day, and I have sacraficed more for my country in a sliver of my fingernail than you have done your whole life.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.....you compare yourself a felon (who somehow voted) who voted for GWB as doing more for the troops........Than myself who actually was a "troop" and did your fighting, Ive put my life life on the line for my fellow "Troops" day after day, and I have sacraficed more for my country in a sliver of my fingernail than you have done your whole life.
ccodiane
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I'm honest about what I am, to the extent that I won't harm myself in the process. You, I'm not buying. If so, I retract my former statements, and was also a member of the armed forces. Uhmmm.... Marines. Yeah, the first Marine division. So fuck you!!!
Cannabian
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Ignorant Fuck CC - you cant even respect your fellow Americans who have potentially laid down there lives so that you can sit on your fat ass and spew garbage all day. If, perhaps you took your eyes of the RIU forum's you may actually catch the news one of these days and learn something. I know you love this 
CCodiane - crack cocaine user, weed dealer, aspiring Bush cartel lackey.
CCodiane - crack cocaine user, weed dealer, aspiring Bush cartel lackey.
ccodiane
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Ignorant Fuck CC - you cant even respect your fellow Americans who have potentially laid down there lives so that you can sit on your fat ass and spew garbage all day. If, perhaps you took your eyes of the RIU forum's you may actually catch the news one of these days and learn something. I know you love this
Coming from you Canobrainian, thanks!!
ccodiane
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Then that settles it........... You da man. You should have just told me you had an ace in the hole and I would have kissed your ass long ago and saved myself the embarrassment of having disrespected you, oh exalted one. PS- I don't believe a word you say, your probably Canadian as well. I do believe you have a solid command of cut and paste, you've convinced me.
ccodiane
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A brain wasting disease. Apologies for my disrespect to you too.
Wavels
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Back to the topic of this thread.....although I did chuckle over some of the bickering back and forth.
Unfortunately for the irrational anti-war left, reality is a bummer.
Oh, and the left turned out to be dead wrong, as usual. We hadn't created an unlimited supply of terrorists. In fact, the supply turned out to be very finite, to al Qaeda's chagrin. And killing them worked. (One of the great untold stories of 2007 was the number of al Qaeda corpses.)
And our former enemies have been killing them for us.
Iraq still faces massive problems, of course. Thirty years of murderous tyranny under Saddam followed by four years of Coalition fumbling left the country a shambles. But Iraqis want it to get better.
The military situation is well on the way to being under control. Now the question is whether Iraq's leaders, especially those from the newly empowered Shia, can put their country above their personal and parochial interests (something that we don't expect of our own politicians these days).
On our side, the immediate problem is that we lack diplomats as visionary and capable as our soldiers. After almost a century, the Foggy Bottom fops still can't see beyond a world gerrymandered by their European idols at Versailles. So here we are: The surge worked. It achieved all that we can expect of our military. 2008 will tell us whether the politicians and diplomats, US and Iraqi, can do their part.
Entire article at:
THE SURGE AT ONE
Unfortunately for the irrational anti-war left, reality is a bummer.
Oh, and the left turned out to be dead wrong, as usual. We hadn't created an unlimited supply of terrorists. In fact, the supply turned out to be very finite, to al Qaeda's chagrin. And killing them worked. (One of the great untold stories of 2007 was the number of al Qaeda corpses.)
And our former enemies have been killing them for us.
Iraq still faces massive problems, of course. Thirty years of murderous tyranny under Saddam followed by four years of Coalition fumbling left the country a shambles. But Iraqis want it to get better.
The military situation is well on the way to being under control. Now the question is whether Iraq's leaders, especially those from the newly empowered Shia, can put their country above their personal and parochial interests (something that we don't expect of our own politicians these days).
On our side, the immediate problem is that we lack diplomats as visionary and capable as our soldiers. After almost a century, the Foggy Bottom fops still can't see beyond a world gerrymandered by their European idols at Versailles. So here we are: The surge worked. It achieved all that we can expect of our military. 2008 will tell us whether the politicians and diplomats, US and Iraqi, can do their part.
Entire article at:
THE SURGE AT ONE
medicineman
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The surge quelled riots in Bagdad. It is temporary. In case you haven't noticed we are the enemy to most Iraqis. 86% want to see us leave. 66% think it allright to kill an American. That for you dullards, is 2/3s of the people that would just as soon kill us as look at us. Yeah great progress for the trillion bucks squandered and the 100,000+++ lives wasted. What kind of an Idiot calls this victory? I'm not knocking our military for I have been there, done that. All you cowboys that haven't saddled up, need to stop opining on war. Get down range and take some lead, take some incoming and then opine. I'm pretty sure your view will be a little different
Johnnyorganic
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Sources please on the 86% and 66% claims. A dullard like me needs some sort of proof.
The above statement suggests that progressives want the U.S. to lose the war. It does not matter that the situation is improving on the ground. You can't stand to ponder the possibility that Dubya is prosecuting this war successfully.
BTW, anyone has the absolute right to air their views on anything, including the War on Islamic Radicalism, regardless of their veteran status.
Wavels
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Well johnny, this is a technique med employs frequently in order to avoid any substantive debate on the real issues involved, what could possibly be easier to say than..."you're not qualified to discuss this". This strikes me as a bit cowardly.
I also would very much like to see the source(s) for the questionable percentages claimed by med????