Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

kingofqueen

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Lol mabey I,m a vegan . I hate relying on fast food and supermarket products that can be prepared at home . I hate corporations hence why I don,t buy in to all the "Cannanutes" .

Thats awesome you have been so long without fast food and the grocery store . I bet it feels good knowing all your money is'nt going to corporate america or overseas ! Good job man !

If society as a whole lived this way we would't have near the problems we do today in society . Nobody knows how to earn they just look for the easy out !
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Just caught your thread here man .

Doesn't vegan = organic ?
Yes, that is why I called this thread vegan organics. I wanted to stress that everything I'm using is certified organic.

In the world I live in it is all about making medicine that is safe for the most ill of patients to consume, often raw as juice. I am going beyond organics, cutting out the animal products that I don't trust for a few reasons: environmental issues, human rights issues, health issues, and best of all...BETTER HIGH AND BETTER SMOKE!
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
And for those who want more eye candy...

You can check out many more vegan organic cannabis hi-def pictures and videos at kushmanveganics.com or his fbook page.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Thats awesome you have been so long without fast food and the grocery store . I bet it feels good knowing all your money is'nt going to corporate america or overseas ! Good job man!
Hey thanks. I also host a CSA, community supported agriculture, for a small organic ranch. Once a week people come by and pick up fresh food from my porch, no store, no market, no tax. Support your local organic farmers!
 

upthearsenal

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+ rep for the LOF ^

i've been looking into the vegan GH line for my hydroponics, it seems pretty decent but in the end i don't think you can use the lucus formula with them, so i decided against it.
 

upthearsenal

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so as discussed earlier, when do you feed your microbes molasses? are there certain indications when you know the ideal feeding time?
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
so as discussed earlier, when do you feed your microbes molasses? are there certain indications when you know the ideal feeding time?
My water prep includes a few steps before I add my nutes. I use a prefilter, and a tall boy. No RO for me, just my personal choice living in an area where water restrictions are common. I let the pulled water sit and bubble for a day.

This brings us to chloramines in city water, which I haven't looked at in depth. I've recently been getting asked about added chloramines that don't "bubble" off like traditional chlorine. Still need to look into that...always something to research.

After filtering and bubbling, but before adding nutes, I add soluble myco/bacteria and molasses, all the way through pretty much. I also add teas to the res before adding nutes.

When growing more indica/kushy strains I've found flowering comes in bursts. As opposed to sativas which flower more gradually (IMO). So, when I anticipate this burst in flower growth I step up the food and the molasses, to let the plant add as much biomass as possible during these key times in flower mass development.
 

kingofqueen

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Are you gonna post a grow ? Or just constantly push Veganics . would be interesting to see You with a grow in progress otherwise this seems to be blah blah blah just another twist on organics . No offense just being honest . I support organics totally .
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Are you gonna post a grow ? Or just constantly push Veganics . would be interesting to see You with a grow in progress otherwise this seems to be blah blah blah just another twist on organics . No offense just being honest . I support organics totally .
This thread was totally unplanned, made obvious by my cannabinoid saturated ramblings. This is a twist on organics, of sorts.

Next round currently rooting at a buddies. Life without plants feels weird, but time off for traveling is nice if you can afford it.

Grow journal to begin shortly. Thanks for calling me out on my lacking; unplanned thread. I did not expect this many view so quickly (1000+ in four days!). I've been needing to do a properly documented grow journal forever, at least I finally made it to California and have become a public Cannabis activist/educator. Last round was overshadowed by the death of my best friend, to go back to those pictures I have to go through all the pics of her dying...too much right now.

Next round will be even better! And documented! But, not in my media of preference, Bio Terra Plus. So it will be hard to compare as that is a huge factor.

High def 'plant based organics' grow posts on kushmanveganics.com and his fbook page if you want to check out more images...not an ad, he just has pro photographers. We don't run the exact same system. Intentionally not posting links.
 

Matt Rize

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From: http://www.goveganic.net/spip.php?article53

"Animal-based fertilizers, like manure and blood meal, often come from animals that were not raised organically. They may have been exposed to chemicals, GMO feed, hormones, and antibiotics. Veganic growers can maintain fertility on their own holding using completely organic plant-based techniques, ensuring that the entire cycle of agriculture is 100% organic.

There are growing concerns about chemicals used in food production and contaminants found in the food supply. Choosing to grow food organically is a step in the right direction, because substances like pesticides, herbicides, and GMO’s are not intentionally added to the farmland. Unfortunately, these substances can still make their way to organic fields. While organic farmers are permitted to use animal-based fertilizers like manure, blood meal, and bone meal, these fertilizers may be contaminated with substances that are CONTRARY to the aims of organic agriculture.

For example, when farm animals are fed pesticide-tainted food, certain pesticides BIOACCUMULATE in the bodies of the animals, resulting in animal-based fertilizers that still contain pesticides. Bone meal has been implicated in the spread of mad cow disease, causing some people to become wary of bone meal used in vegetable agriculture. Antibiotics that are given to farm animals can be found in the animals’ manure, and certain antibiotics are actually absorbed by vegetables, causing concern about antibiotic resistance (see the University of Minnesota studies, published 2005 and 2007).

For farmers and gardeners who would like to grow cleanly-sourced organic food, the fertility in veganic agriculture is maintained using plant-based techniques, with minimal use of off-farm inputs. This can be cheaper and less energy intensive than importing organic animal products from neighbouring farms, and by producing your own sources of fertility, you can ensure that the production cycle remains COMPLETELY organic."
 

kingofqueen

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Right on ! He does have some great pictures I checked him out and the mission statement there is clear and concise as to explaining what vegan organics actually is . Pretty interesting over all I think . But I also think it,s kinda of an advanced technique . I,m just do " Simple "
organics I like to call it . Organic based soil with kelp based organic fertilizer . I,m still learning but having some good sucess to this point with my current grow. There are some many how ,why ,this and that diff ways people push trying to grow , so I,m keeping it simple and learing to read my plants . Less is more ! and less varibles to try to control .
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Also from same site, but from the consumer's perspective.

"Eating 100% organic food
Organic food is frequently grown using animal waste, but these animals have often been exposed to pesticides, chemicals, antibiotics, and hormones (except for a small number of farmers who source their manure from organically-raised animals or raise animals on their own farm). In veganic agriculture, because the food is grown using organic plant-based techniques, it’s possible for the farmers to keep the cycle of agriculture 100% organic.

There are growing concerns about chemicals used in food production and contaminants found in the food supply. Choosing organic food is a step in the right direction, because the farmer is not intentionally adding substances like pesticides, herbicides, and GMO’s to the farmland. Unfortunately, however, these substances can still make their way to organic fields.

Organic farmers are permitted to use animal-based fertilizers like manure, blood meal, and bone meal, but these are not necessarily sourced from organically-raised animals. Many organic farms, especially large-scale operations, amend their fields with animal by-products from conventional factory farms and slaughterhouses.

The by-products of these animals can be contaminated with substances that are contrary to the aims of organic agriculture. For example, when farm animals are fed pesticide-tainted food, certain pesticides bioaccumulate in the bodies of the animals, resulting in animal-based fertilizers that still contain pesticides. Bone meal has been implicated in the spread of mad cow disease, causing some people to become wary of bone meal used in vegetable agriculture. Antibiotics that are given to farm animals can be found in the animals’ manure, and certain antibiotics are actually absorbed by vegetables, causing concern about antibiotic resistance (see the University of Minnesota studies, published 2005 and 2007).

For consumers who would like to eat cleanly-sourced food, talk to local organic farmers about how they fertilize their fields, or phone the companies whose exports you purchase. Some small farmers do make the effort to get animal products from organically-raised animals, but you’ll find that many farms are fertilizing their fields from contaminated sources.

In veganic agriculture, farmers use plant-based techniques, and are encouraged to produce as much fertility as possible on their own land, which minimizes the chance of contamination. We recommend that concerned consumers get involved and actively engage with local farmers, to promote these techniques for creating a clean food supply."
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Right on ! He does have some great pictures I checked him out and the mission statement there is clear and concise as to explaining what vegan organics actually is . Pretty interesting over all I think . But I also think it,s kinda of an advanced technique .
Thanks man! High def cameras do justice, relative to using the 4x feature on my droid camera. I promise you all to document my next round.

Simplicity is key to life. I view this as simple in terms of nutrition and natural pathways. One day, when I have land and don't live in a concrete jungle, I won't buy a damn thing.
 
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