Can You Tell The Difference?

Can you tell the difference?


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Stop drifting, it went from Hobbes and his 2.5g to a pound off a 400. I have seen the effectiveness from HID in countless grows including my own but I have also seen people get 1-1.5g per watt off LED. I have never shirked away from the fact that you would need big powerful panels but I don't find them expensive, they will probably give you less but taking all else into consideration it is well worth it.

I think we both know in a very short time you will be eating your words, it takes a brave man to try new things, the sheep can sit and watch on the side lines.
Not drifting at all like i said i will not do your leg work you can do it yourself.I know what i speak its been proven
 

Hudsonvalley82

Well-Known Member
No one here is saying that LED is better than HID when it comes to weight per plant, just that it is likely as efficient referring to grams/watt. I think we can all agree that getting 2.5 g/watt isn't typical of any grow and is a tip of the hat to the grower more than his light. I've seen many people with 400W lights suck ass.

What this threads original mission (at least my opinion of what it was) is to prove that LED is indeed a viable option for people looking to grow.

Quality = same
Quantity = similar in terms of grams/watt, not grams/plant

It's not hard to admit that. LED's work. But so do HID's.
 
No one here is saying that LED is better than HID when it comes to weight per plant, just that it is likely as efficient referring to grams/watt. I think we can all agree that getting 2.5 g/watt isn't typical of any grow and is a tip of the hat to the grower more than his light. I've seen many people with 400W lights suck ass.

What this threads original mission (at least my opinion of what it was) is to prove that LED is indeed a viable option for people looking to grow.

Quality = same
Quantity = similar in terms of grams/watt, not grams/plant

It's not hard to admit that. LED's work. But so do HID's.
Thank you for that post
 

newworldicon

Well-Known Member
No one here is saying that LED is better than HID when it comes to weight per plant, just that it is likely as efficient referring to grams/watt. I think we can all agree that getting 2.5 g/watt isn't typical of any grow and is a tip of the hat to the grower more than his light. I've seen many people with 400W lights suck ass.

What this threads original mission (at least my opinion of what it was) is to prove that LED is indeed a viable option for people looking to grow.

Quality = same
Quantity = similar in terms of grams/watt, not grams/plant

It's not hard to admit that. LED's work. But so do HID's.
Fucking amazing, I agree with everything you say and have said this in this thread, but amazingly WBW applauds your words yet he cannot see that I was saying the same thing.
 
Yet it would kick the shit out of any 400W HID and probably come very close if not equal to a 600 in producing and as you aptly pointed out it is only 252W of power.
Just this post right here.Thats what made me think you were saying something different and thats why i said what i said.
But no arguing please
 

newworldicon

Well-Known Member
Just this post right here.Thats what made me think you were saying something different and thats why i said what i said.
But no arguing please
Fine I agree no arguing, to clarify the 252W was the power drwan at the plug not it's 500W of LED pushing power.

I have purchased a high power unit of 550W with cree 3W LED's, I have my trusty 600's and 2x 4x4 flower tents for a comparison grow in 2 weeks. If i get the same yield or slightly less but frostier buds then it should make more sense. OR it could fall well short, time will tell.
 
Fine I agree no arguing, to clarify the 252W was the power drwan at the plug not it's 500W of LED pushing power.

I have purchased a high power unit of 550W with cree 3W LED's, I have my trusty 600's and 2x 4x4 flower tents for a comparison grow in 2 weeks. If i get the same yield or slightly less but frostier buds then it should make more sense. OR it could fall well short, time will tell.
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You should all be aware of what's happening to you............PLEASE LOOK AT THIS THREAD!!!!!


https://www.rollitup.org/politics/300305-should-we-worried.html
Thats some scary shit...
 

meharmon

Member
Holy smokes, you're still at it?
I admitted when I made a mistake in that sentence-- I assume that since you prefer digging yourself deeper that this is out of the question in your psyche.

You totally blew my mind by sharing that a couple conversions would change metric to "american scale", I thought for sure a black hole would open up if someone figured out how to do that! I should not need to explain the common sense that any measurement of similar type can be converted to another, such as length (inches to light years, lol!), volume, force, etc., but when the conversions are unnecessary, to do so would be asinine. Since that word is apparently foreign to you: http://tinyurl.com/4cuhmf4
But let me try to explain it in the form of a story...
Sally needs to go to the store. The storeisacross the street. Sally can take infinitely many routes to go to the store, but the easiest way would be to walk across the street. This is my preferred method. Your method would have Sally take a bus across town, then walk to the store. Sure, she got to the store that way too, but why did it take her so long? Because the person giving directions enjoys being asinine. Do you poop outside, scoop it up and take it home to flush? I just do my business in the toilet to being with... but to each his own I suppose.
And if you want, Google the word "wrong" so you can understand its meaning, then Google the information in your original post to see its meaning used in an example. Wait, judging by your thought process, Google is a foreign word too. Damn.... nvm, I give up. Let me know how that tape measure + newtons density calculation works out for ya, chief. Btw, do you have a broken ruler too, or did it just recently break? Nvm, IDGAF.

but either way you still are wrong, newtons are related to density, as they are to mass just divide by gravity and you have mass. Weight and newtons arent related they are the same thing....
 

meharmon

Member
Our media is controlled, those who care enough to watch but not enough to think critically eat it up as gospel. Those who pay attention and try to raise awareness are "crazy". What we need is educational TV in the form of a "reality" show since apparently that is what passes these days. It'd be nice to see the Jersey Shore discuss how the tax changes of the early 80's affected the national debt--- then we might actually get something done about it. :dunce:
I have to ask, why are Americans not aware of this stuff???? or is ignorance bliss??
 

newworldicon

Well-Known Member
Our media is controlled, those who care enough to watch but not enough to think critically eat it up as gospel. Those who pay attention and try to raise awareness are "crazy". What we need is educational TV in the form of a "reality" show since apparently that is what passes these days. It'd be nice to see the Jersey Shore discuss how the tax changes of the early 80's affected the national debt--- then we might actually get something done about it. :dunce:
It was more rhetorical than anything. The fact is that in every western country in the world we are manipulated and fed fodder.

In the UK we experience the same thing, trying doing anything without 3 million...YES 3 MILLION CCTV cameras in the UK, more than any other country in the world. Freedom my ass!!

As for education......a new mindset is required. Most of the what has been taught over the last 150 years is merely selective and manipulated.

The danger is real for the entire world but the wave of destruction has begun in America, the land that was evolved under your noses since it's inception by a secret shadow government.
 

shmow52

Well-Known Member
Holy smokes, you're still at it?
I admitted when I made a mistake in that sentence-- I assume that since you prefer digging yourself deeper that this is out of the question in your psyche.

You totally blew my mind by sharing that a couple conversions would change metric to "american scale", I thought for sure a black hole would open up if someone figured out how to do that! I should not need to explain the common sense that any measurement of similar type can be converted to another, such as length (inches to light years, lol!), volume, force, etc., but when the conversions are unnecessary, to do so would be asinine. Since that word is apparently foreign to you: http://tinyurl.com/4cuhmf4
But let me try to explain it in the form of a story...
Sally needs to go to the store. The storeisacross the street. Sally can take infinitely many routes to go to the store, but the easiest way would be to walk across the street. This is my preferred method. Your method would have Sally take a bus across town, then walk to the store. Sure, she got to the store that way too, but why did it take her so long? Because the person giving directions enjoys being asinine. Do you poop outside, scoop it up and take it home to flush? I just do my business in the toilet to being with... but to each his own I suppose.
And if you want, Google the word "wrong" so you can understand its meaning, then Google the information in your original post to see its meaning used in an example. Wait, judging by your thought process, Google is a foreign word too. Damn.... nvm, I give up. Let me know how that tape measure + newtons density calculation works out for ya, chief. Btw, do you have a broken ruler too, or did it just recently break? Nvm, IDGAF.
dude i wasnt arguing with you about your method, i was just pointing out your mistakes.... you dont have to talk to me like a fucking retard. o and btw the tape measure and the weight method are two completely different things.
also everything i have said has been COMPLETELY TRUE.
 
I would have thought the bud on the right would have been heavier/denser, if it is not, I wonder about that bud....is it a "puffball"....it had so much potential?
 
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